Superman runs the Herald Gauntlet

Originally posted by batdude123
Then Thor ended up unconscious.

AFTER Thor blasted Supes into the tree. And that's far from cheating.

The fact is that Thor put Superman on his back probably by hitting him with his Hammer.

Then he goes unto to talk to Superman and then Superman blasts him with Heat vision when Thor hit him they were going all out. Thor was actually trying to talk. Supes was a dick that entire series 😉

And by the way Thor also one shotted Doomsday 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm not, you douche bag. I'm simply debating the semantics behind the comic book itself.

I'm just telling them it isn't as good for Supes as they think 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
So you have read it or are you just going on what you have seen.

The fact is that Thor put Superman on his back probably by hitting him with his Hammer.

Then he goes unto to talk to Superman and then Superman blasts him with Heat vision when Thor hit him they were going all out. Thor was actually trying to talk. Supes was a dick that entire series 😉

And by the way Thor also one shotted Doomsday 😉

Just going by what I've seen.

Then, when he was on his back, he caught Mjolnir midswing and KO'd Thor.

But he did BLAST him into the tree. You can see the trial of the lightning bolt following him.

That's not cheating.

But also got one shotted by Superman. ermmhappy

Originally posted by batdude123

But also got one shotted by Superman. ermmhappy

Originally posted by Priest
Actually Thor diden't get one-shotted 😄

He did when Superman's dials went up to 11. ermmhappy

Originally posted by batdude123
Just going by what I've seen.

Then, when he was on his back, he caught Mjolnir midswing and KO'd Thor.

But he did BLAST him into the tree. You can see the trial of the lightning bolt following him.

That's not cheating.

But also got one shotted by Superman. ermmhappy

Then Thor stands in front of him basically saying Supes is strong but not strong enough. Then Supes blasts him with HV which Thor eventually powers through then Superman catches the Hammer and hits him.

Seems like he needed more than one shot to me with HV and then punching.

Also then Superman almost gets beaten to death by Wonder Man, Hercules, Ironman, and She-Hulk 😛

The point is that Thor had him on his back but instead of blasting him into a Krptonian Saturday Night Special he gave Superman a chance to use his other powers.

The point is the match hardly seemed one sided and Superman had to resort to using his biggest attack in Heat Vision which Thor still took.

Oh and once again Thor one shotted Doomsday 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
No we see them trading blows and then we see him supes flying through the trees. The lighting streak showcases that he hit him with his Hammer more than likely as he was caught up in a fist o cuffs.

Then Thor stands in front of him basically saying Supes is strong but not strong enough. Then Supes blasts him with HV which Thor eventually powers through then Superman catches the Hammer and hits him.

Seems like he needed more than one shot to me with HV and then punching.

Also then Superman almost gets beaten to death by Wonder Man, Hercules, Ironman, and She-Hulk 😛

The point is that Thor had him on his back but instead of blasting him into a Krptonian Saturday Night Special he gave Superman a chance to use his other powers.

The point is the match hardly seemed one sided and Superman had to resort to using his biggest attack in Heat Vision which Thor still took.

Oh and once again Thor one shotted Doomsday 😉

Uh... we clearly see an energy blast when Supes flew out the window. Hardly seems like a Mjolnir blow to me. Thor was the first to resort to "energy" attacks.

Apparently he is strong enough if he can still knock Thor's ass out while on his back. 😆

Huh? For all we know, Superman used his heat vision before Thor was going to blast Superman again. That's hardly cheating.

Once Thor closed the gap, he still tried to bludgeon Superman over the head. Superman then proved he was stronger, caught Mjolnir, and punched him. 🙂

Thor one-shotted Doomsday, but got knocked out by Superman. Get over it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Uh... we clearly see an energy blast when Supes flew out the window. Hardly seems like a Mjolnir blow to me. Thor was the first to resort to "energy" attacks.

Apparently he is strong enough if he can still knock Thor's ass out while on his back. 😆

Huh? For all we know, Superman used his heat vision before Thor was going to blast Superman again. That's hardly cheating.

Once Thor closed the gap, he still tried to bludgeon Superman over the head. Superman then proved he was stronger, caught Mjolnir, and punched him. 🙂

Thor one-shotted Doomsday, but got knocked out by Superman. Get over it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Uh... we clearly see an energy blast when Supes flew out the window. Hardly seems like a Mjolnir blow to me. Thor was the first to resort to "energy" attacks.

Apparently he is strong enough if he can still knock Thor's ass out while on his back. 😆

Huh? For all we know, Superman used his heat vision before Thor was going to blast Superman again. That's hardly cheating.

Once Thor closed the gap, he still tried to bludgeon Superman over the head. Superman then proved he was stronger, caught Mjolnir, and punched him. 🙂

Thor one-shotted Doomsday, but got knocked out by Superman. Get over it.

The fact is the Hammer was awash in that energy through out the fight so yes it was more than likely a hammer blow.

Trust me Thor had more than ample time to blast Superman again. He gave Superman a speech then Superman returned with on of his own and Heat Vision.

And last time I checked walking through Heat Vision isn't exactly an easy feat. So Superman hit a Thor that had already taken a few punches from him and full Heat Vision.

Oh and just for fun you do know that Thor even called Superman inferior. And that the only H2H fight they had Thor owned him 313

So Superman with the cheap shot for the win. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
Coming from the guy who hasn't even seen the comic 313

vin

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact is the Hammer was awash in that energy through out the fight so yes it was more than likely a hammer blow.

There isn't a lightning blast following a person after he's been hit with Mjolnir. It was more than likely an energy attack.

Originally posted by Newjak
Trust me Thor had more than ample time to blast Superman again. He gave Superman a speech then Superman returned with on of his own and Heat Vision.

It's his own damn fault he talked during a fight.

Originally posted by Newjak
And last time I checked walking through Heat Vision isn't exactly an easy feat. So Superman hit a Thor that had already taken a few punches from him and full Heat Vision.

How does that make it any less of a victory?

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh and just for fun you do know that Thor even called Superman inferior. And that the only H2H fight they had Thor owned him 313

Superman wasn't the one knocked the f*ck out by the end of the fight. It appears Thor is the inferior one. 131

Originally posted by Newjak
So Superman with the [b]cheap shot for the win. 😉 [/B]

Cheap shot my ass. Superman KO'd Thor in a fair fight. There's nothing cheap about that victory. A cheap shot would be if Superman flew behind him and hit him in the back of the head.

Originally posted by batdude123
vin

There isn't a lightning blast following a person after he's been hit with Mjolnir. It was more than likely an energy attack.

It's his own damn fault he talked during a fight.

How does that make it any less of a victory?

Superman wasn't the one knocked the f*ck out by the end of the fight. It appears Thor is the inferior one. 131

Cheap shot my ass. Superman KO'd Thor in a fair fight. There's nothing cheap about that victory. A cheap shot would be if Superman flew behind him and hit him in the back of the head.

It doesn't make it any less of a victory but a cheap shot victory still doesn't prove anything 😛

The fact that he hit him with Heat Vision when Thor was talking to him is a cheap shot. If Thor hadn't hesitated Superman would have been buried under lighting because it was Superman who was helpless before Thor not the other way around 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
Yet there was energy constantly coming off of Mjolnir in that fight 313

It doesn't make it any less of a victory but a cheap shot victory still doesn't prove anything 😛

The fact that he hit him with Heat Vision when Thor was talking to him is a cheap shot. If Thor hadn't hesitated Superman would have been buried under lighting because it was Superman who was helpless before Thor not the other way around 😉

Fortunately, I just looked at the fight again. You might want to reread what ACTUALLY happened.

Thor was the first to resort to energy blasts. You can clearly tell it was an energy blast that knocked him out of the window. To say anything other than such is just avoiding what actually occurred.

Once he blasted Superman out of the window, as he was aproaching he says it's not how strong you are, it's what you do with it. Not exactly the speech that you were implying. Then Superman comes back with a longer speech bubble and blasts him with heat vision.

As Thor was about to hit him with Mjolnir, Superman catches the head of the hammer. Thor was in amazement of how strong Superman is. He said the mightiest beings in the nine worlds of Asgard have failed to do that. Then, when Supes was still on his back, he decked him across the face for the KO. 😬

It's all there clear as day. Superman straight up owned Thor in that fight. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's kinda funny how you had to straight up lie in order to deface Superman.

Why do people act as if Thor actually had a chance against Superman in a crossover event?

Also, is it ok to use Thor one shotting DD as a valid feat?

Originally posted by His Airness
Why do people act as if Thor actually had a chance against Superman in a crossover event?

Also, is it ok to use Thor one shotting DD as a valid feat?

It was more than likely a Doomsday clone, considering physical force is nothing to him.

Hell Bats was beating DD clones with nothing but a war axe.

Originally posted by batdude123
It was more than likely a Doomsday clone, considering physical force is nothing to him.

Hell Bats was beating DD clones with nothing but a war axe.

But claiming it was a clone with no evidence suggesting such and idea would be complete speculation. Until otherwise notified, as PISafied as it may have been, Thor one shotted DD.

Originally posted by batdude123
Fortunately, I just looked at the fight again. You might want to reread what ACTUALLY happened.

Thor was the first to resort to energy blasts. You can clearly tell it was an energy blast that knocked him out of the window. To say anything other than such is just avoiding what actually occurred.

Once he blasted Superman out of the window, as he was aproaching he says it's not how strong you are, it's what you do with it. Not exactly the speech that you were implying. Then Superman comes back with a longer speech bubble and blasts him with heat vision.

As Thor was about to hit him with Mjolnir, Superman catches the head of the hammer. Thor was in amazement of how strong Superman is. He said the mightiest beings in the nine worlds of Asgard have failed to do that. Then, when Supes was still on his back, he decked him across the face for the KO. 😬

It's all there clear as day. Superman straight up owned Thor in that fight. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's kinda funny how you had to straight up lie in order to deface Superman.

The fact is that you completely left out a portion of the fight the beginning.

First Supes uses his speed to avoid one hammer blow. Then he hits Thor while flying. Then we see two panels where they exchange fists. Then we see Superman getting knocked though trees. Yes it could have been a blast but seeing as the Hammer was completely awash in Energy in the entire fight and leaving energy trails suggests otherwise. It doesn't even matter. It was still the only straight up fight they had and it ended with Superman on his back 😬

Also it obviously was a speech if it took two speech bubbles to contain Thor's words and the fact that Supes Speech Bubble almost took up a third of the panel says that a lot of words were said. Meaning Thor had plenty of time to blast Superman again when he was on his back.

And you also fail to mention that Thor had to wade through full on Heat Vision to even get to Supes. So Supes cheap Shotted Thor when they were talking. Was Thor stupid for giving Superman the chance to do it yes but it was still a cheap shot. Heck Thor even calls him jackal implying him a coward when he hit him with Heat vision.

So Thor had already taken a few good shots from Superman and then has to power through a full dose of Heat Vison. Waded through Supes Heat Vision then got hit. Seems to me Superman would have fallen in a similar scenario. 😉

By the way why would it have to be a Doomsday clone because you want it to be a Doomsday clone. Did Doomsday even have clones at this time? Either way in a crossover I doubt they would have used a clone. So since there is no evidence to the contrary Thor one Shotted Doomsday 313

Originally posted by His Airness
Oh, I feel I'm threatened now. By the way, It's "guarantee", not
"garantee".

Greater feats are solely up for personal interpretation. Hence the reason I've never claimed either was stronger than the other due to the fact that there strength lv's are so ridiculously contiguous that placing one above the other would oftentimes subconsciously be dictated by our personal biased.

Who's stronger doesn't much matter considering strength wouldn't be the deciding factor in a match up between the two.

Your opinion. Further argument can be discussed in the proper thread.

Strength would certainly matter considering that both of them tend to use physical strength as a primary asset in thier battles. Superman just has more and is superior in this case.

Originally posted by panthergod
Except that Thor has numerous rivals and equals among fellow heroes, and Superman has one true rival, and still gets the nod as the undisputed strongest heros round to a degree that Thor can never claim.

Feats are not up for personal imterpretation. they are up to factual interpretation. and Superman has superior feats, not only in terms of the effects that his strength creates, but most importantly in terms of hi relative strength level. He's dominated and outperformed other top tiers much more consistently than Thor, to a degree thor cannot match.

Strength would certainly matter considering that both of them tend to use physical strength as a primary asset in thier battles. Superman just has more and is superior in this case.

Originally posted by His Airness
But claiming it was a clone with no evidence suggesting such and idea would be complete speculation. Until otherwise notified, as PISafied as it may have been, Thor one shotted DD.

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't recall him being shown knocked out anywhere. Was he? I may have overlooked it. But one shotting someone, and hitting them once, are very different. Given the time fluctuation things that were going on, with villains popping in and out, he may have just been deleted after that.