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batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Newjak
Why because I've actually read what so many people try to pass off as a One hit KO on Thor when it was far from it 😛

They got into a fight where anything in their arsenal was fair game... and Thor ended up being KO'd with Superman standing over him.

It's as simple as that.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
They got into a fight where anything in their arsenal was fair game... and Thor ended up being KO'd with Superman standing over him.
It's as simple as that.

And Superman did and had to use everything in his arsenal to put Thor down. Thor didn't seem to break a sweat with Superman in H2H.

Thor could have easily bolted Superman when he was down but no Thor has to be noble. 😛

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Originally posted by batdude123
They got into a fight where anything in their arsenal was fair game... and Thor ended up being KO'd with Superman standing over him.
It's as simple as that.

Neither fought to their fullest capabilities, poorly written fight but hey I guess it's canon. yawn

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Newjak
And Superman did and had to use everything in his arsenal to put Thor down. Thor didn't seem to break a sweat with Superman in H2H.
Thor could have easily bolted Superman when he was down but no Thor has to be noble. 😛

Superman did everything in his arsenal to beat down Thor? You think him punching and using heat vision is "everything he has?"

Thor didn't go h2h the entire fight either (or, I should say hand to hammer). He did his little Mjolnir toss at ol' Blue. Then after that, Supes caught the hammer mid swing and KO'd him with one punch. Just goes to show that Supes was taking it easy and pulling his punches earlier. doped

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman did everything in his arsenal to beat down Thor? You think him punching and using heat vision is "everything he has?"
Thor didn't go h2h the entire fight either (or, I should say hand to hammer). He did his little Mjolnir toss at ol' Blue. Then after that, Supes caught the hammer mid swing and KO'd him with one punch. Just goes to show that Supes was taking it easy and pulling his punches earlier. doped

Really Besides punching and HV what else does he ave besides Ice breath. Seems to me he is was using his best powers.

Actually it does show Thor hitting Superman with his fist.

And b ythe way have you actually read the book because in that fight Thor never threw his hammer at Superman 😕

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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Storm didn't physically punch SD apart...that would have been a whole different story.

So why would u believe that Superman can punch SD apart?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What part of "regenerate" do you not get? I never said that SD would not be able to fight at some point. However... needing to regenerate is already a win for Supes as per forum battle rules.

how would needing to regenerate a win according to KMC rules? i could of sworn that StarDust was still fighting shortly after she put her body together.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Plus examples have been laid out..whether you want to go with them or not.

whats examples , the freeze breath idea that u were talking about earlier I'm assumings after Superman breaks her body apart( which is doubtful to begin with)? How can Superman freeze energy? Thats not gonna happen.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Again with this silliness...Stardust needed to be restored. If PC was unlimited..SS and Galactus would never need to be restored themselves. SD is no different.

Its common knowledge that the PC energy is unlimited imo, its been stated many times that heralds can live off and accumulate as much PC as their body needs to replenish themselves. just because Galactus had to restore the heralds on one comic docent mean that that we have to discredit the 100's of comics in which its is stated that the heralds can live off the PC.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
That you have speculation and Johnny has not 1 feat to compare to Superman? Yes...case closed on your idea...unless you can get some decent proof.

It really isn't speculation Johnny essentially was himself plus the Silver Surfer..and we all now that the Silver Surfer is powerful to begin with. Besides just the amped Human Torch, SD had to fend off Gravity as well. Johnny+Gravity> Superman

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What posts are you reading? SD had to resort to desperation attacks and he conceded that Bill won. Like I said...it's easy to talk smack when you know you aren't going to get hit anymore.
How many villains have said "I'm invincible" LOL...

SD had to may had to result to unconventional offense against Beta, but non of Beta Rays Bill had any log lasting affects on StarDust. I predict Superman's offensive weapons will have the same affect on StarDust.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Canon. Caught hammer..punched out Thor. Countered your ridiculous "point."

That was a ridiculous fight to begin with imo, their was so many fights in that book that should be re written like th She Hulk and AquaMan fight...Anyways ur supposed to reference Beta ray Bill not Thor, both Asguardians have different strengths and weakness. Their not the same characters imo.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yet your speculative assessment of Torch and Gravity are ok...LOL Not quite.

I'm not speculating nothing, the Device Human Torch had gives the bearer all of Surfers Power's, thats a fact. Gravity in the book, is supposed to be extreamlly powerful, he was able to Power up galactus, and he even hurt him, thats a fact he's pretty powerful.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
On top of that...reading your other responses...you don't know jack about Superman or love PC way too much.

I know that Superman can't one shot a planet. I also know that Superman Energy attacks can be countered rather easily by StarDust.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You flip flop more than Kerry during his run for presidency. Which is it? Not weaknened? Trapped between black holes? Didn't need to be restored although Galactus himself said that he did?
SD was overpowered physically by Bill and kept coming back...which is great...but obviously there is a limit to it's energy. Let's not delude ourselves and others.

Who knows how weakened she was to begin with?
Also in the book Torch said that she is regaining her self. Gravity then says something like, she's not going any where for the risk of her being BFR. That is the fact.
Yeah she was being over powered, and still was continuing to fight un-scratched. same thing will happen with an encounter with Superman. In the Beta Ray Bill fight their isn't a hint that their is a limit to her energy input. In fact when bill blew up the planet she was ready to fight sooner than Bill.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
In your opinion. Exactly. It doesn't remove the fact that SD still needed to be restored..and physical attacks still destroyed her physical form...and Superman can more than Torch, Storm, and Thing.

Again ur forgetting that it was a amped torch to a high degree with Surfers Powers. Also SD was fending off Gravity who is a power house alone.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman grabs SD and flies so fast a boom tube is created..where he puts SD into the wall. 🙂

Your talking about the Darkseid fight when supes was Amped by a Star right? Yeah Sun dipping is not allowed lol. 😛

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yet they did overwhelm her..trouble or not. Thanks, that is all you needed to say.

Amped Torch and Gravity does not =Superman

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Really? So lightning is stronger than HV? The same HV that was able to match omega beams? Take a look at Supermans Respect forum..You'll find he can do...a lot...

Shields and absorption powers got the HV on check imo. Also i know ur not trying to say that HV>OE 😛 ....We all that Superman is protected by the source which is why he was able to counter DS's eye beams.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And Stardust has even less that Supes hasn't shrugged off himself. He couldn't even physically take out Bill without resorting to trying to trap him somewhere.

touche..
I know that Superman is not Leagues above Bill imo..StarDust didn't have trouble shaking off his attacks, she should have trouble shaking of Superman's.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
All which 80% of Superman's enemies have and he gets through them? Nice try. Recent Brainiac was taken out and he has all of Stardusts abilities.

Which Brainiac? Did he have a body made of pure energy?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
A weak galactus basically saying ouch is your best proof? Disregarded.

Disregarded? Why? Galactus states that he was hurt imo...Also Gravity was able to power up Galactus to full power. Like it or not it happened, no speculation on that example.
Its pretty obvious the Gravity was supposed to be a powerhouse not taken lightly. So yeah we can compare Superman's power to Gravity and a amped Human Torch like it or not.
Hey, I don't like using examples from a crappy book, but if u are I certainly can.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I rather enjoy you trying to debate this unlimited energy being who needed to be restored and had to regenerate. Please continue.

Again the PC essentially is a unlimited energy supply that the Hearlds feed off of. Many Books throughout the Galactus era>>>>Fantastic Four 546

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
At worst...it would be. Stardust is by FAR my favorite herald..and I would quickly pick up a solo title if they made one for her. While I'm not buying the whole invulnerable and unlimited theory. I'll definitely say it would not be an easy fight.

Maybe, but I Still think Superman can put StarDust down imo, I'm leaning towards a stalemate since SD has never shown that she couldn't continue a fight against against attacks that are in Superman's range of abilities.
Yea a StarDust solo or at least a mini would be awesome, she is a very interesting character, and my second favorite herald next to you know who.
Sorry i couldent make it short 🙂
Aight I'm missing the finals, I'm probably out for the night. Go Lebron!

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Originally posted by Newjak
Really Besides punching and HV what else does he ave besides Ice breath. Seems to me he is was using his best powers.

😆

Yeah, that's about 1% of what Superman has in his arsenal. Superman definitely didn't show Thor all of what he had.

But then again, that was enough to knock Thor's ass out. doped

Originally posted by Newjak
Actually it does show Thor hitting Superman with his fist.

And?

Originally posted by Newjak
And by the way have you actually read the book because in that fight Thor never threw his hammer at Superman 😕

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Priest Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123

Yeah, that's about 1% of what Superman has in his arsenal.

So Superman has 99 other powers? 131

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
😆
Yeah, that's about 1% of what Superman has in his arsenal. Superman definitely didn't show Thor all of what he had.
But then again, that was enough to knock Thor's ass out. doped
And?
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Yeah buit if you were to name his most powerful attacks it would go

1) T-Vo Maybe
2) HV
3) Punching really hard

Seems to me he put on the big game stuff.

And he snapped Superman's head back

Let me guess you think Thor threw the Hammer knocking Superman down and then Superman blocked it and punched him out all in the same fight right.

Then like I guessed you didn't read the book 😉

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Priest
So Superman has 99 other powers? 131

Actually NJ listed 3 different powers of Supes(strength, HV, and Ice Breath) so Supes would have 297 other powers 😱 .

Priest Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually NJ listed 3 different powers of Supes(strength, HV, and Ice Breath) so Supes would have 297 other powers 😱 .

Yikes!!!lsd

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actually NJ listed 3 different powers of Supes(strength, HV, and Ice Breath) so Supes would have 297 other powers 😱 .

But for some reason I do not think Soul Vision is going to win it for Supes against Thor 😛

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Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah buit if you were to name his most powerful attacks it would go
1) T-Vo Maybe
2) HV
3) Punching really hard
Seems to me he put on the big game stuff.

So every time Superman goes toe to toe with someone, we can safely conclude he's going all out and not holding anything back. Gotcha.

Originally posted by Newjak
Let me guess you think Thor threw the Hammer knocking Superman down and then Superman blocked it and punched him out all in the same fight right.
Then like I guessed you didn't read the book 😉

Guilty. 313

Still doesn't change the fact that Superman's dials went up to 11 and then he one punched Thor. 😛

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
So every time Superman goes toe to toe with someone, we can safely conclude he's going all out and not holding anything back. Gotcha.
Guilty. 313
Still doesn't change the fact that Superman's dials went up to 11 and then he one punched Thor. 😛

No but when he is using a full on dose of HV yes he is 313

And Thor beat him in H2H and took on his full blast of Heat Vision so apparently Thor is tougher than Despero 😛

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Originally posted by batdude123
Still doesn't change the fact that Superman's dials went up to 11 and then he one punched Thor. 😛

Well when you're Superman that's still holding back ermm

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Newjak
No but when he is using a full on dose of HV yes he is 313
And Thor beat him in H2H and took on his full blast of Heat Vision so apparently Thor is tougher than Despero 😛

He didn't use an iota of his speed though. mhm And he was obviously holding back at the time because his dials weren't at 11 yet. ermmhappy

But still not as tough as Supes. 313

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by batdude123
He didn't use an iota of his speed though. mhm And he was obviously holding back at the time because his dials weren't at 11 yet. ermmhappy
But still not as tough as Supes. 313

Actually he did and it still wasn't enough to stop Thor from putting him on his back mhm

And Superman won only because he cheated and used his Heat Vision when Thor was talking to him 😉

quanchi112 Disney

thor and superman are pretty much even,. dc wouldnt let supes lose to him so quit acting like this crossover decides who is more powerful

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Originally posted by Newjak
Actually he did and it still wasn't enough to stop Thor from putting him on his back mhm
And Superman won only because he cheated and used his Heat Vision when Thor was talking to him 😉

Then Thor ended up unconscious.

AFTER Thor blasted Supes into the tree. And that's far from cheating.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
thor and superman are pretty much even,. dc wouldnt let supes lose to him so quit acting like this crossover decides who is more powerful

I'm not, you douche bag. I'm simply debating the semantics behind the comic book itself.