Superman doesn't have the options that Surfer has tho.
Surfer could possibly tie his lifeforce to the planet, ala Lunatik.
Trap him in his board possibly, ala Legacy.
In a straight mano y mano fight tho?
Stardust would probably simply outlast Surfer.
And i don't think he's invulnerable.
I think he just shunts off damage from physical blows.
And i don't think Superman dwarfs the Thunderers in strength.
If there's an edge, it's small, not vast.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman doesn't have the options that Surfer has tho.Surfer could possibly tie his lifeforce to the planet, ala Lunatik.
Trap him in his board possibly, ala Legacy.
In a straight mano y mano fight tho?
Stardust would probably simply outlast Surfer.
And i don't think he's invulnerable.
I think he just shunts off damage from physical blows.
And i don't think Superman dwarfs the Thunderers in strength.
If there's an edge, it's small, not vast.
Regenerating and shunting off damage are 2 completely different things.
Bill whooped that ass..and SD had to resort to trying a wormhole to get rid of him. Stardust didn't do that great against BRB either.
It's easy to say " You can't damage me" after the fight is over and you are pretty sure you aren't going to get hit again. Bill was doing just fine. Hell, he stabbed the guy with his own weapon.
This must be the bizarro forum. Where "logic" applies backwards.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Regenerating and shunting off damage are 2 completely different things.Bill whooped that ass..and SD had to resort to trying a wormhole to get rid of him. Stardust didn't do that great against BRB either.
It's easy to say " You can't damage me" after the fight is over and you are pretty sure you aren't going to get him again. Bill was doing just fine. Hell, he stabbed the guy with his own weapon.
This must be the bizarro forum. Where "logic" applies backwards.
Agreed, however not once during the Bill, SD fight did it appear that SD was damaged or harmed to the point that he couldn't go on. In fact he never apperaed damaged at all.
No he didn't, It was a stalemate.
You act as if BFRing someone is now some sign of weakness or defeat?
He stabbed him to but no avail. Stardust was back within the next few panels, fresh and ready to continue. The only reason the two squashed their beef was because there universe became endangered.
Yeah? 😕
Originally posted by quanchi112
superman just doesnt have the luck to beat all these opponents in succession. its like 1 in a million chance. its like jim carrey said in dumb and dumber. so u ur telling me theres a chance. celebration
Succession implies that he's fighting them back to back...which he isn't...he gets a day between each one which is all he needs for a full recovery.
Originally posted by His Airness
Agreed, however not once during the Bill, SD fight did it appear that SD was damaged or harmed to the point that he couldn't go on. In fact he never apperaed damaged at all.No he didn't, It was a stalemate.
You act as if BFRing someone is now some sign of weakness or defeat?
He stabbed him to but no avail. Stardust was back within the next few panels, fresh and ready to continue. The only reason the two squashed their beef was because there universe became endangered.
Yeah? 😕
So what you are saying was that after Stardusts best "last resort" attack failed on BRB, and BRB PHYSICALLY OVERPOWERED Stardust...yet Stardust is invulnerable?
He regenerates...like many characters do...but I've yet to see an unlimited regenerator.
Had Bill and SD kept going..do you think the SD would have regenerated infinitely and defeated Bill?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So what you are saying was that after Stardusts best "last resort" attack failed on BRB, and BRB PHYSICALLY OVERPOWERED Stardust...yet Stardust is invulnerable?He regenerates...like many characters do...but I've yet to see an unlimited regenerator.
Had Bill and SD kept going..do you think the SD would have regenerated infinitely and defeated Bill?
Thing is tho, we haven't seen the limits to his stamina and recuperative abilities.
It's fallacy to think that he must have a limit, when none has been shown yet.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Thing is tho, we haven't seen the limits to his stamina and recuperative abilities.It's fallacy to think that he must have a limit, when none has been shown yet.
Actually.. in the the last FF issue...Galactus had to restore him after a few powerful attacks.
So you think it's more realistic that Stardust had infinite regeneration?
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually.. in the the last FF issue...Galactus had to restore him after a few powerful attacks.So you think it's more realistic that Stardust had infinite regeneration?
Well, you have to forgive the mistakes made by a dumbass like McDuffie. This is the guy who had DP put SS in the armbar of death.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Actually.. in the the last FF issue...Galactus had to restore him after a few powerful attacks.
So where do u get that Stardust had to be restored for emiting attacks? 😕
Also its pretty weak that ur bring up examples form a books (written by the same author) that had PIS/crap written all over it.
the book that u mentioned before Galactus was restored to full power by a blast from Gravity. 😂
Oh, and galactus was actually hurt by Gravity.
and the book before that had the Silver Surfer at the mercy of black panther using a arm lock.
the books an general were poorly written, i compare them to Batman/Superman books.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So you think it's more realistic that Stardust had infinite regeneration?
Originally posted by Priestnicely down. u did ur homework and owned it.
Galactus had to restore the Heralds because
1) Surfer was completely drained of his power cosmic by the Doom/black panther device.
2) Stardust was had to fight off both the Human Torch amped by the Silver Surfers Power cosmic, and Gravetron.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/18-7.jpgSo where do u get that Stardust had to be restored for emiting attacks? 😕
Also its pretty weak that ur bring up examples form a books (written by the same author) that had PIS/crap written all over it.
the book that u mentioned before Galactus was restored to full power by a blast from Gravity. 😂
Oh, and galactus was actually hurt by Gravity.
and the book before that had the Silver Surfer at the mercy of black panther using a arm lock.
the books an general were poorly written, i compare them to Batman/Superman books.again, where do u get that Star Dust have to regenerate?
because i really don't know where its comming from.
Originally posted by PriestStardust taking hard hits doesn't prove that superman cannot defeat him.
Indeed i have, thank you for agreeing with me.
yet he can be beaten down by the likes of Doomsday, Despero, the General ect..i guess their punches can bend the fabric or reality? u agree with me on that also 🙄
Doomsday beat a less powerful version. General was STALEMATED by a less powerful version. Despero? Lmao. you mean the guy Superman recently took out with one blast?
Irrelevant. Superman sealed the fabric of reality wth HV. Stardust is not immune to his attacks when Storm can tear him apart.
and how will they help him win a match against a herald?😕
WTF?
What does the fact that Stradust is a Herald matter?
oh, you're one of those.
the rabid fanboys who equate Herald level with godhood. LOL.
Superman's non physical attacks have contained cosmic dimensional events and used to great effect against Cosmic beings such as Dominus.
Don't bring that 'he's a Herald' trash to the table when you're talking about a character like Superman, who's is more powerful than [b]any Herald save the Surfer.
u have scans of Superman actually doing this? because debating with non concrete evidence is really not gonna sway my opinion. [/B]
I can't post links. Go to the 23rd page of the Superman Respect thread.
Originally posted by Priest
Galactus had to restore the Heralds because
1) Surfer was completely drained of his power cosmic by the Doom/black panther device.
2) Stardust was had to fight off both the Human Torch amped by the Silver Surfers Power cosmic, and Gravetron.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/18-7.jpgSo where do u get that Stardust had to be restored for emiting attacks? 😕
Also its pretty weak that ur bring up examples form a books (written by the same author) that had PIS/crap written all over it.
the book that u mentioned before Galactus was restored to full power by a blast from Gravity. 😂
Oh, and galactus was actually hurt by Gravity.
and the book before that had the Silver Surfer at the mercy of black panther using a arm lock.
the books an general were poorly written, i compare them to Batman/Superman books.
I think it's pretty weak that your trying to defend this ridiculous tirade that Stardust is the new juggernaut.
Nobody cares that you hold the books in regards to Batman/Superman...and it's completely inconclusive to this debate. Here Galactus plainly states that he restores his heralds.
Now SS I understand as BP drained him...But Stardust the invincible?
Originally posted by Priest
again, where do u get that Star Dust have to regenerate?
because i really don't know where its comming from.
The 2 scans above show...Storm destroys his body with lightning and he has to reform. This simply shows he's not as invulnerable as the new KMC rumors would lead you to believe. Yes...he's restored...but 4 powerful attacks and Galactus did have to restore him.
