Can any MUTANT beat Superman????

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm's potential is perhapsfar beyond Bobby

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Don't insult me, please.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I've never said that.

Some people just claimed she didn't have that detailed of control over the elements.--atomic and sub-atomic.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Omega=Omega... though Storm's hasn't actualy been confirmed. So no at the moment Bobby's potential is greater than Ororo's until she's confirmed.

Hence the word "perhaps" durpuzzle

Originally posted by Creshosk
I didn't. I was pointing out what you said was stupid. Period.

And my opinion is "stupid" based on.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh, well they're wrong.....

That's usually the way it works.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh, well they're wrong as there is no such thing as non-sub-atomic control of electricity. and there's no such thing as non-atomic control of air.

You mean 2damn is wrong. No one else has ever claimed that someone could have subatomic control of atoms.

Mainly because that would be retarded.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You mean 2damn is wrong. No one else has ever claimed that someone could have subatomic control of atoms.

Mainly because that would be retarded.

I've never said that. 🙄

It's also funny how the "guilty party" identifies themselves.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I've never said that. 🙄

Yes. You did 🙄

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes. You did 🙄

When? 😆

Originally posted by 2damnloud
When? 😆

Who cares? We're talking about Storm here. Evidence is unneeded.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Who cares? We're talking about Storm here. Evidence is unneeded.

dopey

I consider mutants, as any human born a mutant due to the X-Gene.
(You can thank the celestials.)

Mutates like the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Spiderman etc.. are not considered mutants.

And characters like Vargas are not considered mutants. Despite being born with superpowers with out aid. (The X-Gene is not present).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vargas_(comics)

Offically no Omega Characters.
Yet there are several unclassified mutants that seem to be well above Alpha level.
And their a few Alpha level mutants, that have shown feats as grand as Omega Mutants.

(Compare Rachel or Vulcan to X-Man, Cable or Magneto).

I would have to say, Shaman X-Man, Soldier-X (Ubber Cable), Hyperstorm. Are not classified as Omega Mutants, and could give Superman a hard time.

Rachel hasn't been classified on panel as an Omega mutant using the present day definition...

Like i said before, everything that i say is my opinion. Storm, rogue, and magneto has the power to put superman down. Magneto, I give a majority due to his forcefield and other powers. Superman would get the majority over rogue and storm but I would give them some wins.

Storms power would affect superman. I have seen superman scream in so much pain due to electricity that it is sickening. Storm has the powerset to put superman down. Now lets get to rogue powers working on superman.

Superman forcefield wont stop it because no other forcefield has stop it and parasite seems to have a easy time in absorbing superman powers. Rogue is invulnerable, has super speed, and in due time she would be able to grab superman (seen the girl keep up with north star and fly through space with the surfer and actually kept up). If rogue fights right she could get a majority but with storm it is her durability that would lack her in getting the majority with superman but she do have the power set to keep him busy while focusing lightning on him ending with his passing out.

You all say use a person to the best of there ability but superman rarely ever uses his super speed unless he's flying, I have never except about 1 or 2 times seen superman fly to someone at super speed and punch them. Im not saying that he cant do it but until I see him do it Im not putting that in his battle process.

Rogue is nowhere near as invulnerable as Superman, nowhere near as fast as Superman. Her flight is and has always been subsonic. She would never manage to catch him, and it's speculation as to whether her powers would work at all. Heat vision and she melts. Or she gets T-Voed.

Storm gets KedTFO before she can even do anything, not that she could do anything that would do jack to harm Superman anyway, or prevent him from just killing her in a single punch or a blast of heat vision. Or she gets T-Voed.

Likewise Magneto would get punched and die before being able to do anything, and he has ~13× reaction speeds. He stands at least some chance if he has a bit of time to prepare defensively. The other two do not.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Rogue is nowhere near as invulnerable as Superman, nowhere near as fast as Superman. Her flight is and has always been subsonic. She would never manage to catch him, and it's speculation as to whether her powers would work at all. Heat vision and she melts. Or she gets T-Voed.

Storm gets KedTFO before she can even do anything, not that she could do anything that would do jack to harm Superman anyway, or prevent him from just killing her in a single punch or a blast of heat vision. Or she gets T-Voed.

Likewise Magneto would get punched and die before being able to do anything, and he has ~13× reaction speeds. He stands at least some chance if he has a bit of time to prepare defensively. The other two do not.

1st thing magneto will come to the battle with his forcefield up. Why would he come to a battle not prepared. Superman wouldnt be able to do jack sh** against him. And this fight has already been done by wizard and magneto won. By the way doctor poloris owned the ENTIRE jla, magneto>>>doctor poloris, do the math.

Now lets get to rogue. How could someone be more invulnerable then another person. I thought invulnerability meant invulnerability. By on panel feats and by her bio rogue is truly invulnerable. Superman has no way of hurting her. Now he might be able to ko her but trying to wound her would most likely be impossible. Rogue would be able to hit superman since kalibak, metallo, even darkseid (never showed that he has super speed), sharpnel, equus, lobo, batman, brainiac, hulk, I can keep going, but all of these people has hit superman without a problem and rogue are faster than each of them. Rogue would drain him dry. And how in the hell is heat vision going to stop her when the girl was hit by 2 nukes and flew out of them. 😆

Now lets get to storm. Like I said before, storm has a powerset that makes her a challenge for almost anyone. Superman would be hurt by lightning and would be annoyed by tornadoes and winds that could knock down mountains. Storm has chances against superman if she play her cards right and until i see superman use super speed in his fights more than the 2 to 3 times that i have seen it then I wont be using it in these battles.

1) Because there's no prep.

2) Rogue is only touted as invulnerable, she is just highly durable. She has nothing on panel to suggest she's anywhere near as durable as multiple other characters. To KO someone is to wound them. She has been KOed. 😐

Post a scan of Rogue being hit by nuclear missiles, or state the comic and issue number, I don't recall any such feat.

3) Storm's winds cannot knock down mountains, she has no such feat. It's called hyperbole and figures of speech. She has been knocked down by concrete thrown at her and a small piece of debris falling on her.

4) Superman only has to fly in a straight line really fast to kill any of the three. Or he just T-Voes them.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
1) Because there's no prep.

2) Rogue is only touted as invulnerable, she is just highly durable. She has nothing on panel to suggest she's anywhere near as durable as multiple other characters. To KO someone is to wound them. She has been KOed. 😐

Post a scan of Rogue being hit by nuclear missiles, or state the comic and issue number, I don't recall any such feat.

3) Storm's winds cannot knock down mountains, she has no such feat. It's called hyperbole and figures of speech. She has been knocked down by concrete thrown at her and a small piece of debris falling on her.

4) Superman only has to fly in a straight line really fast to kill any of the three. Or he just T-Voes them.

By the way rogue flies supersonic speed and has a seventh sense that let her know what move her opponent is about to do but I really gave you these scans to prove to you that she is indeed invulnerable. And how in the hell is magneto having his shield up prep. Thats his powers, nut.

Read;
http://comicbooks.about.com/od/xmen/p/roguebio.htm
http://www.marveldatabase.com/Rogue_%28Anna_Marie%29
http://www.mutanthigh.com/rogue.html
http://members.fortunecity.com/msmudpies/roguebio.htm
http://members.tripod.com/rikmertens/marvel/rogue.html
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Rogue

I can show you more if you want. In all of those scans it simply say that she is invulnerable. I guess you have learned something new of a character. Didnt mind teaching ya.

Rogue has always been listed as subsonic as far as I'm aware. I don't doubt she has a few feats over Mach 1 here and there, feel free to post them. Then feel free to post her traveling anywhere near as fast as Superman.

It's a consciously activated power, ergo to do so beforehand constitutes prep. Her seventh sense is rarely shown, and it doesn't help at all if the opponent moves so fast that even if you know what they're about to do a moment before they do it, the latency of your reaction to evade it is too slow.

I ask for a scan of her taking 2 nukes and flying out of them. You post unofficial bios, three of which say "near invulnerable," one of which is editable by anyone. The only official bio there is one that uses the qualifier "virtually" in front of indestructable to describe her former powers, virtually because she has limitations and has been rendered unconscious before.

I've read a veritable crapload of comics with Rogue in them, and know her capabilities and limitations well enough to know she doesn't stand a serious chance against Superman already. The only thing I've learned is that you're a waste of time.

I like the X-Men.. I really do. But I don't try to play their powers for greater than they are.

A major problem is the speed blitz.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Rogue has always been listed as subsonic as far as I'm aware. I don't doubt she has a few feats over Mach 1 here and there, feel free to post them. Then feel free to post her traveling anywhere near as fast as Superman.

It's a consciously activated power, ergo to do so beforehand constitutes prep. Her seventh sense is rarely shown, and it doesn't help at all if the opponent moves so fast that even if you know what they're about to do a moment before they do it, the latency of your reaction to evade it is too slow.

I ask for a scan of her taking 2 nukes and flying out of them. You post unofficial bios, three of which say "near invulnerable," one of which is editable by anyone. The only official bio there is one that uses the qualifier "virtually" in front of indestructable to describe her former powers.

I've read a veritable crapload of comics with Rogue in them, and know her capabilities and limitations well enough to know she doesn't stand a serious chance against Superman already. The only thing I've learned is that you're a waste of time.

Im not saying that her strength or durability is whats going to give her the win over superman, what is going to give her the win is what give parasite the win over superman every time they meet and that is absorption powers. Rogue has everything parasite has plus interest. What parasite dont have that rogue has is, she comes with strength, she can fly at super sonic speed, and she is invulnerable. Parasite dont have none of that but he always do just fine against superman.

If rogue grabs superman than the fight is done and it is possible that it could happen. Superman has been hit by slower enemies. Majority all of superman enemies are slow anyway. I cant think of almost none that are even as fast as the hulk. Im referring to his main enemies but he do have some out there that is as fast as him like zod, etc...

Superman also is far away from being invulnerable, he is veeery durable but he aint invulnerable. He was shot by a ship and had black eye and bruises all over his face. The guy bleeds from the mouth and get cut up (equus sliced him across the chest) on a regular basis. Wonderwoman broke his ribs. A villian from the fatal five blew the ground up from under him leaving cuts and bruises across his face. General zod broke his jaw. I can keep going.

When it comes to true invulnerability, its not many characters that have that kind of power, I can only think of three. Silver surfer, juggernaut, destroyer.

Im not saying that rogue can fly faster than superman because it will never happen but i do think that she would be able to grab him since MUCH slower opponents has done so. Superman dont know how to use his speed in a way that you dream of him doing so.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I like the X-Men.. I really do. But I don't try to play their powers for greater than they are.

A major problem is the speed blitz.

Something that he dont know how to do.

Originally posted by carver9
Something that he dont know how to do.

😕

In that case none of his opponents know how to use their powers either.

Then Superman can just beat anyone who lacks a durability greater than his strength who has to activate their powers. Storm goes down when she tries to go h2h with him. as does Magneto...

Unless you're going to throw in he forgets how to even move.