Originally posted by Creshosk
He doesn't know how to fly at people as fast as he can with his fist out?😕
In that case none of his opponents know how to use their powers either.
Then Superman can just beat anyone who lacks a durability greater than his strength who has to activate their powers. Storm goes down when she tries to go h2h with him. as does Magneto...
Unless you're going to throw in he forgets how to even move.
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You got me then.
So while Superman can fly from the Earth to the Sun in less than two minutes, while it takes light from the Sun 8 minutes to reach the Earth, he lacks sufficient speed to avoid Rogue.
He has shown the ability to vibrate intangible.
And he has shown the ability to punch people multiple times while using his superspeed i.e. a speedblitz.
And KMC forum rules dictate characters fight to the best of their abilities...
Rogue, who you've yet to show can even break the sound barrier will catch him. And we'll just take the speculation that she can absorb him at all to the extent that she will be able to absorb him enough to render him unconscious. And since she's listed as nigh invulnerable clearly nothing Superman can do will hurt her, despite her having been hurt and rendered unconscious before.
Edit: Current Quicksilver no longer sees the passage of time in slow motion afaik. Don't know enough about Kiden.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So while Superman can fly from the Earth to the Sun in less than two minutes, while it takes light from the Sun 8 minutes to reach the Earth, he lacks sufficient speed to avoid Rogue.
He has shown the ability to vibrate intangible.
And he has shown the ability to punch people multiple times while using his superspeed i.e. a speedblitz.
And KMC forum rules dictate characters fight to the best of their abilities...Rogue, who you've yet to show can even break the sound barrier will catch him. And we'll just take the speculation that she can absorb him at all to the extent that she will be able to absorb him enough to render him unconscious. And since she's listed as nigh invulnerable clearly nothing Superman can do will hurt her, despite her having been hurt and rendered unconscious before.
She wouldn't be able to leave him unconscious.
Extreme powerhouses like Hyperion, Thor, Magneto and so on will let her drain more than she can control and then she'll overload. She kissed Mags when he got his powers back, and even though she drained him, he still had tons of power left. Same with the rogue who touched Hyperion in Exiles.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He doesn't know how to fly at people as fast as he can with his fist out?😕
In that case none of his opponents know how to use their powers either.
Then Superman can just beat anyone who lacks a durability greater than his strength who has to activate their powers. Storm goes down when she tries to go h2h with him. as does Magneto...
Unless you're going to throw in he forgets how to even move.
Well strictly speaking Superman wouldn't do that because he's too much of a nice guy.
But he has shown many times that he can blitz people without crahing though them.
Originally posted by Creshosk
well yeah.. but don't the forum rules state to full potential? Meaning not holding back?
They say that they fight to the full extent of their ability while remaining in character and trying to win the fight.
Under those restrictions Superman won't crush people's head but he'll still blitz them in a nonlethal way.
Originally posted by Hitman911
A supped up Ororo still gets owned!!
CHECK.
A supped up Ororo is something like Mother Nature on crack.
Has Superman been shown struggling against the elements?
Has he been Shown in "pain" due to electricity?
Have other wave lengths of the Sun's radiation been shown to harm him?
If so, Storm can, absolutely do it.
Originally posted by Hitman911
That would make her half of Thor and it's debatable that he can beat Kal. [/B]
Which begs the question:
How does the alien "Superman" have the power to beat Thor the "Son of Odin" (you know, Prince of the Norse Gods)?
Has anybody ever wondered about that? Or is it just me?
read through the last 4 pages the case for Rogue intrigues me.
Rogue gives Supes some sugah f.a.few.wins
Magneto's shields are standard features
Classic Cable And Storm And Gambit And Wanda are much alike.
all carry the X Gene
all four are afraid of their true power and have taken measures to keep it in check
Cable is a f&*()__09ng mystery and has persued so many secret agendas and covert missions the less said the better. although it is indisputable Classic Cable smashed Hulk, lifted the Blob Made Apocalypse vomit blood and summon a horseman for aid and defeated Stryfe, Sym and Nate Grey in solo combat [these feats are warrant respect.
the character underwent a self imposed lobotomy to guard against an uncontrolled ascention [holding back]
for Storm rigid controll of which a byproduct is her well documented "indomitable will"
for Gambit as a boy and as a grown Man he sought out MR Sinister to insert a few stitches within his cerebral cortex
for Wanda as a kid she had something done to her And check out the Avengers Library and House of M franchise where everything was Cool untill she stopped holding back.
all four are much more Besides their mutant x gene and are no stranger to Magic
all can ASCEND ON WILL and this is Canon
Cable+C&D/ Clairemont Uncanny / Gambit solo Title / House of M
Originally posted by don't shiv
read through the last 4 pages the case for Rogue intrigues me.
Rogue gives Supes some sugah f.a.few.winsMagneto's shields are standard features
Classic Cable And Storm And Gambit And Wanda are much alike.
all carry the X Gene
all four are afraid of their true power and have taken measures to keep it in check
Cable is a f&*()__09ng mystery and has persued so many secret agendas and covert missions the less said the better. although it is indisputable Classic Cable smashed Hulk, lifted the Blob Made Apocalypse vomit blood and summon a horseman for aid and defeated Stryfe, Sym and Nate Grey in solo combat [these feats are warrant respect.
the character underwent a self imposed lobotomy to guard against an uncontrolled ascention [holding back]for Storm rigid controll of which a byproduct is her well documented "indomitable will"
for Gambit as a boy and as a grown Man he sought out MR Sinister to insert a few stitches within his cerebral cortex
for Wanda as a kid she had something done to her And check out the Avengers Library and House of M franchise where everything was Cool untill she stopped holding back.
all four are much more Besides their mutant x gene and are no stranger to Magic
all can ASCEND ON WILL and this is Canon
Cable+C&D/ Clairemont Uncanny / Gambit solo Title / House of M
And there you have it.
The catalyst for Ororo's power is interesting too---being able to percieve the entire unvirse as patterns of energy and being able to shape those forces to her will.
There are proponents for an "electrical universe". Like when you break everything down, even atoms, it's completely electrical and electromagnetic.
"A panorama of constantly shifting patterns of energy".
Also given that Storm's connection to these forces are as much metaphisical as they are genetic, and you have a n almost burgeoning "Goddess" in the strictest sense.
Originally posted by Roldz
Short of Jamie/Hyperstorm i dont think any mutant could beat Supes..
If we count an omega mutants, there are more.
Phoenix, MJJ (not confirmed as an omega), Scarlet Witch (also no), Franklin Richards, Jamie, Hyperstorm.
Those mutants have such power level that make Superman look like nothing. Also Vulcan with Darwin is in here.
Cyclopalypse also for sure 🙂.
Mutants that could also take him down:
Magneto, Apocalypse, X-Man, Stryfe, Legion.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Unlimited potential is unlimited potential. Someone who reaches their potential to do anything doesn't have more power than someone else who can do anything.
Ok, "anything"?
What peramenters are you using??
I've had this discussion before about the power cosmic.
Omega potetnial does not = anything across the board.
It means whatever your powerset is, you reach the highest peak potential ala Phoenix became Jean's TP/TK potential.
Everyone's potential is different.
Bobby has control over kenetic enegery.
Jean allegedly can telekentically arrange a whole universe-- molecules, kenetic energy and all. She can telekentically amputate entire TIMELINES.
I'd say she has a greater potential with regard to her powerset(TP/TK) than say Iceman with his control over extreme temps which somehow relates to kenetic energy.