So, why exactly would anyone say Revan is stronger than Nihilus?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except on the KMC forums we assume that each character knows at least the basics about his opponent, so your "oh he won't know" crap doesn't work.

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Originally posted by IOU
1 question, what exactly is putting revan above people like count dooku or darth vader? the guys quite clearly overrated

Well, Revan was the most powerful Sith of an era, was considered a prodigy, spent all his time trying to get more knowledge (so he want to college lol), and was verbally felated by the writer of Path of Destruction and Kreia.

You can call him being verbally fellated, while I can say the same about Sidious, or Bane, or any powerful character.

Nihilus is the more powerful, it's not even an arguement worth having. Nihilus was virtually god-like, he lifted a fleet with his TK, controlled the minds of the officers in his ship; mentally and metaphysically enslaved people - force users or otherwise - with his mere presence.

Revan isn't in his league.

Because of a thing called Fanboy/girl-ism.

Originally posted by IOU
1 question, what exactly is putting revan above people like count dooku or darth vader? the guys quite clearly overrated

Revan is not overated.

Originally posted by IOU
1 question, what exactly is putting revan above people like count dooku or darth vader? the guys quite clearly overrated

The only Revan fan who overates him is SW Legend,look at his posts about Revan.He magnifies Revans accomplishment x10. Most other Revan fans accept that he is below Yoda (though I would say not by much). From what I've seen and what others post to respond to his basically tells me tat he gives Revan a bad name somewhat.

Revan is uber. Hes one of my favourite jedis.

Btw what are the faces you potray him as?

Originally posted by Allankles
Nihilus is the more powerful, it's not even an arguement worth having. Nihilus was virtually god-like, he lifted a fleet with his TK, controlled the minds of the officers in his ship; mentally and metaphysically enslaved people - force users or otherwise - with his mere presence.

Revan isn't in his league.

Yea, a god like sith who gets destroyed by an average Jedi. He lifted A ship with TK. Guess Yoda is a force god. Wow, he made humans his slaves, Revan ripped out the rakata language from an ancient force using race, and threw in basic. Sorry, Revan is in Nihilus' league and his force knowledge exceeds Nihilus'.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yea, a god like sith who gets destroyed by an average Jedi. He lifted A ship with TK. Guess Yoda is a force god. Wow, he made humans his slaves, Revan ripped out the rakata language from an ancient force using race, and threw in basic. Sorry, Revan is in Nihilus' league and his force knowledge exceeds Nihilus'.

Yeah! Like communicating with aliens telepathically is on the same league as consuming an entire planet's life force, or mentally and meta physically enslaving people with your mere presence.

Please, Nihilus is on another level. He's NJO Luke/DE Sidious level, while Revan is about Dooku level there's no contest. Nihilus is god-like, Revan isn't.

And Nihilus didn't just lift a ship, he lifted an entire fleet with his TK.

Originally posted by Allankles
Yeah! Like communicating with aliens telepathically is on the same league as consuming an entire planet's life force, or mentally and meta physically enslaving people with your mere presence.

Please, Nihilus is on another level. He's NJO Luke/DE Sidious level, while Revan is about Dooku level there's no contest. Nihilus is god-like, Revan isn't.

And Nihilus didn't just lift a ship, he lifted an entire fleet with his TK.

What specifically says that he lifted an entire fleet with the Force? I mean, sure the Ravager got lifted, but what sources say explicitly that he lifted the entire sith fleet? (Bearing in mind, how big was this fleet)

Originally posted by exanda kane
What specifically says that he lifted an entire fleet with the Force? I mean, sure the Ravager got lifted, but what sources say explicitly that he lifted the entire sith fleet? (Bearing in mind, how big was this fleet)

Colonel Tobin pretty much says it and I quote: "This ship is it his weakness? It should not exist yet it cruises the darkness between the stars. He tore it from the mass shadows of Malachor along with his fleet... that is a measure of his power."

He goes on with: "He holds it together. And keeps us alive, just enough, like rotworms within a dying beast."

Originally posted by Allankles
Colonel Tobin pretty much says it and I quote: "This ship is it his weakness? It should not exist yet it cruises the darkness between the stars. He tore it from the mass shadows of Malachor along with his fleet... that is a measure of his power."

Very well, but how big is this fleet you say?

Tobin mentions a fleet, but only one capitol ship is ever seen and that is the Ravager. Where are the other ships or is Tobin simply referring to the fighters?

I'm still neutral in this argument. Revan is obviously intended by the writers to be a superior character, yet given his mysterious nature there is no way to back up that speculation. But I will nitpick at any disrepency in points intended as canon facts.

Originally posted by Allankles
Colonel Tobin pretty much says it and I quote: "This ship is it his weakness? It should not exist yet it cruises the darkness between the stars. He tore it from the mass shadows of Malachor along with his fleet... that is a measure of his power."

Nihilus is an uber powerful character, but only God like power he has is drain, without it, Revan would defeat him and if he is holding a ship together, wouldn't the ship started falling apart after his death and yet it still travels trough space.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Nihilus is an uber powerful character, but only God like power he has is drain, without it, Revan would defeat him and if he is holding a ship together, wouldn't the ship started falling apart after his death and yet it still travels trough space.

I dislike it when people mention: "if so-and-so didn't have that power characer x would beat him". How about recognizing that that kind of reasoning goes both ways i.e. if Revan didn't have the force character x would beat him. That's the power the character was written with, it's as much a part of his character's identitity as the skull mask. So please save the "if he didn't have this" arguments.

As far as his ship not falling apart, I don't know. It might have been an oversight, or there are details about the methods Nihilus used that haven't been elaborated. You'd have to ask the writers and designers yourself.

Oh god your point was destroyed a long time ago and you continued it. Tobin is a fallable 3rd party character, and if Nihilus kept the ship intact, it would have been destroyed when he was. The end. Revan>Nihilus

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Oh god your point was destroyed a long time ago and you continued it. Tobin is a fallable 3rd party character, and if Nihilus kept the ship intact, it would have been destroyed when he was. The end. Revan>Nihilus

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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Oh god your point was destroyed a long time ago and you continued it. Tobin is a fallable 3rd party character, and if Nihilus kept the ship intact, it would have been destroyed when he was. The end. Revan>Nihilus