Abraxas vs. Phoenix

Just to summarize, Abraxas has been hyped to ridiculous proportions on this forum and it is totally unjustified. He was said to cause a reality to crumble by stepping into it and that simply wasnt true, the scenes presented to display that ridiculous notion, the crumbling city shown was a result of an alternate Glaactus eating that alternate Earth.

If Abraxas could do that, if he had that kind of power inherently, why seek out the Nullifier? Why base all of your plans on obtaining a weapon when you have the natural power to accomplish what you planned to do with the weapon? 😕

Simple. He didnt. 🙂

Show scans stating Abraxas made realities crumble by walking into them or drop the point.

The circumstances behind Abraxas killing those alternate universe Galactus' were not shown, they happened off panel. Therefore we cannot claim him to be more powerful than Galactus even. He was a big threat because of his role and his ambitions to destroy all reality. Power wise he was as far as we were shown unimpressive. 👇

Oh and for the record.......Phoenix smites!! 😄

Let's demean Feats yall. 😆

Same ol, same ol ... firefirefireph

According to the Official Handbook of 2006

"While Abraxas DREW NEARER, the Walls of Dimensional Space began to BLUR,

rendering Uatu the Watcher comatose and causing a group of Other-Dimensional superhumans called the Law Enforcement" (because the Multiverse was folding due to Abraxas's approach, just like it clearly states)

Killing Galactus' had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Multiverse collapsing.

The "Death" of 616 Galactus released Abraxas, who collapses the Multiverse,

that's about it.

A threat of Galactus level proportions according to the writers 😖hifty:

Thats about right 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He was said to cause a reality to crumble by stepping into it and that simply wasnt true, the scenes presented to display that ridiculous notion, the crumbling city shown was a result of an alternate Glaactus eating that alternate Earth.

This gibberish was already handled by the Official 2006 Bio.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Abraxas could do that, if he had that kind of power inherently, why seek out the Nullifier? Why base all of your plans on obtaining a weapon when you have the natural power to accomplish what you planned to do with the weapon? 😕

You're confused cause you have to READ more and Hate less.

Abraxas was NEVER going to use the UN to collapse Realities,

Abraxas acquired the UN, to ensure no one defeating him:

Here when Reed uses the UN, Abraxas and Reed say to each other:

Abraxas says, "Put it down Richards, you have no idea"

Reed says, "Actually Abraxas I do,

You NEVER INTENDED to FIRE the Nullifier for the very same Reason I MUST"

yawn

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Show scans stating Abraxas made realities crumble by walking into them or drop the point.

whistling

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The circumstances behind Abraxas killing those alternate universe Galactus' were not shown, they happened off panel. Therefore we cannot claim him to be more powerful than Galactus even.

Bull shit

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A threat of Galactus level proportions according to the writers 😖hifty:

Thats about right

hysterical2

This is your new form of evidence,

bulletin ads on the back of Comics?

This is a new low.

A threat of Galactus-level proportions...

More like "a threat to ALL Galactus-level beings" which all the dead Galacti would agree with.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's demean Feats yall. 😆

Same ol, same ol ... firefirefireph

According to the Official Handbook of 2006

"While Abraxas DREW NEARER, the Walls of Dimensional Space began [QUOTE=9037240]Originally posted by Mr Master
[B] to BLUR,

rendering Uatu the Watcher comatose and causing a group of Other-Dimensional superhumans called the Law Enforcement" (because the Multiverse was folding due to Abraxas's approach, just like it clearly states)

Ummm the dimensional wall started to blur because Abraxas was trying to reach 616. He sent the Galactus head to Earth so he could use it as a homing beacon and with that he made his way towards the heroes.

No collapsing of the multiverse mentioned as a result of Abraxas' presence. Please find an on panel reference marking that out plain as day. No assumptions or speculations.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Killing Galactus' had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Multiverse collapsing.

The "Death" of 616 Galactus released Abraxas, who collapses the Multiverse,

that's about it.

Where was it stated the multiverse was collapsing? Please show me that line on panel, i dont want to hear what YOU THOUGHT was going on. 🙂

Im guessing you got it from this:

All this says is that Galactus' presence kept Abraxas locked away. When Galactus died "the doors to the multiverse were unhinged" i.e Abraxas had free roam, he was set free able to roam as he pleased. Please tell me and the others how that means the multiverse was collapsing? Even your own evidence, that little bio extract states that with Galactus' death Abraxas was set free to roam dimensions.

Please tell me where it talks of how Abraxas' presence caused realities to crumble? No scenes with your commentary telling me what you think was going on. Just an on panel statement blatantly marking out the idea.

Thats all. 🙂

Originally posted by Nikkolas
A threat of Galactus-level proportions...

More like "a threat to ALL Galactus-level beings" which all the dead Galacti would agree with.

Don't bother trying to debate with that intransigent individual,

his purpose on KMC is to demean every Other character's Feats,

that Stomps Phoenix's.

According to the Official Handbook of 2006

"While Abraxas DREW NEARER, the Walls of Dimensional Space began to BLUR,

rendering Uatu the Watcher comatose and causing a group of Other-Dimensional superhumans called the Law Enforcement" (because the Multiverse was folding due to Abraxas's approach, just like it clearly states)

Killing Galactus' had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Multiverse collapsing.

The "Death" of 616 Galactus released Abraxas, who collapses the Multiverse,

that's about it.

On Panel verification:

Abraxas conclusively being depicted as the SHATTERER of Universes,

and Roma flat out says,

"If we don't act soon ALL of TIME (the Multi-verse) will be LOST to us" (with a Statue of Abraxas in her hands)

right after Franklin says,

"Roma, she's gonna HELP us fight the Dark Man" (Abraxas)

Is she not saying that Abraxas will destroy the Multi-verse in other words?

IMAGINE a World WHERE:

IMAGINE a World WHERE: (in other Universes)

IMAGINE a World WHERE: (in other Universes)

From the WRITER'S own Words:

"IMAGINE EACH of those Worlds (other Universes) like Sand in an Hourglass,

an Hourglass which ABRAXAS WILL SHATTER"

"Roma, she's gonna HELP us fight the Dark Man"

"And if we don't act SOON, ALL of TIME will be LOST to us"

Because of WHO?

Because of the "Dark Man" (Abraxas)

You're not changing anyone's mind here jack,

we ALL know what it is you do, everyone has caught on.

Originally posted by Mr Master
hysterical2

This is your new form of evidence,

bulletin ads on the back of Comics?

This is a new low.

😱

April 19th 2007 Mr Masters hypocrisy:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8787589&highlight=Grant+userid%3A88754#post8787589

Jean made Scott Change his mind

so that the Future (Here Comes Tomorrow)

never took place,

that's how Jean Healed the Universe according to the Official Bio,

and Grant Morrison (the WRITER) right here :

(excerpt from the Questionnaires addressed to the Writers --- New X-Men #155)

Abraxas is a Galactus level being bent on destroying all of reality and with an ambition to find the Nullifier in order to do it, so of course if he wasnt stopped he would be a threat to all reality, hence Romas comments.

However as clearly illustrated on panel, the scene you have often presented as evidence of how Abraxas causes realities to crumble once he steps in them was a major misinterpretation on your part im afraid. As actually stated by Roma and by the people in the scene the destruction was caused by Galactus eating the Earth.

Abraxas wearing down the dimensional wall as he draws nearer to Earth isnt evidence of him collapsing the multiverse. What an incredibly major stretch. 😂

As stated on panel the death of Galactus unlocked Abraxas from his prison. He sent a Galactus head to Earth to use as a homing beacon, then he navigated through time/space using this beacon, as he drew nearer to Earth he wore down the dimensional wall.

Collapsed the multiverse? 🤨 Youre having a laugh there mate 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
😱

April 19th 2007 Mr Masters hypocrisy:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=8787589&highlight=Grant+userid%3A88754#post8787589

hysterical

That's not a bulletin ad, you bafoon,

that's from the QUESTIONNAIRES to the Writers of the Comic at the last page of every issue.

That's Grant Morrison HIMSELF and the Writers of New-X-Men

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!

This is hilarious, you thought you had something, LOL!!!

Instead you shit in your pants dive in and swim.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Abraxas is a Galactus level being bent on destroying all of reality and with an ambition to find the Nullifier in order to do it, so of course if he wasnt stopped he would be a threat to all reality, hence Romas comments.

However as clearly illustrated on panel, the scene you have often presented as evidence of how Abraxas causes realities to crumble once he steps in them was a major misinterpretation on your part im afraid. As actually stated by Romas and by the people in the scene the destruction was caused by Galactus eating the Earth.

Abraxas wearing down the dimensional wall as he draws nearer to Earth isnt evidence of him collapsing the multiverse. What an incredibly major stretch. 😂

As stated on panel the death of Galactus unlocked Abraxas from his prison. He sent a Galactus head to Earth to use as a homing beacon, then he navigated through time/space using this beacon, as he drew nearer to Earth he wore down the dimensional wall.

blahblah

Nothing new, same ol same ol ...

firefirefireph

Originally posted by Mr Master
hysterical

That's not a bulletin ad, you bafoon,

that's from the QUESTIONNAIRES to the Writers of the Comic at the last page of every issue.

That's Grant Morrison HIMSELF and the Writers of New-X-Men

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!

This is hilarious, you thought you had something, LOL!!!

Instead you shit in your pants dive in and swim.

So who would write the preview of the next issue to be found on the writers questionnaire page other than the writers themselves? 😕

You presume too much boy.

Either way please show me a scene where its stated ON PANEL clear as day that Abraxas was collapsing realities by walking into them.

This time please try not to show us Galactus' handiwork kay kid? 😱

So the official handbook states what Abraxas is capable of, yet Galactic Storm doesn't want to admit it? Interesting.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So who would write the preview of the next issue to be found on the writers questionnaire page other than the writers themselves?

You presume too much boy.

Yea, as always,

try and yip yap your way around the shit that exudes from your mouth.

You labelled me a "hypocrite" cause you didn't know what the heck you were talking about,

Now you feel like a D*ck, so you try a child's logic.

Please, your done son.

Go away.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Either way please show me a scene where its stated ON PANEL clear as day that Abraxas was collapsing realities by walking into them.

Already did,

only your intransigence could have missed it.

Originally posted by llagrok
So the official handbook states what Abraxas is capable of, yet Galactic Storm doesn't want to admit it? Interesting.

The official handbook states that as Abraxas drew nearer to the heroes the walls of dimensional space began to blur. As stated on panel Abraxas was trying to navigate through dimensions to get to Earth so theein lies your explanation.

Where from that do you just assume that Abraxas was collapsing the multiverse? 😬

The point isnt stated on panel. What IS stated, what IS shown on panel is that Galactus' death set him free and he tried to make his way to Earth navigating dimensions.

What is NOT stated anywhere in a comic, what was ASSUMED is that he collapsed dimensions with his presence.👇

Originally posted by llagrok
So the official handbook states what Abraxas is capable of, yet Galactic Storm doesn't want to admit it? Interesting.

That's his style,

if it's above the Phoenix, he'll demean the character's Feat with straight up bull shit or fallacious statements mixed with truth to confuse the innocent onlookers.

This joker is getting old already with this same stunt.

He had MJJ only warping the UK ... 😆

with that I tell you everything.

Originally posted by Mr Master

only your intransigence could have missed it.

On panel you havent shown me a single on panel statement verifying your theory.

What you've done is present a bio statement, that is explained by on panel statements which themselves dont support your theory. Blurring dimensional walls while trying to navigate through dimensional walls to get to a destination does not equate to Abraxas was causing realities to collapse through his mere presence. 🤨

If Abraxas could do that not only would he not be deemed a Galactus level threat, but his plans to destroy all reality would not be entirely dependent on a weapon. 👇