The Almighty STORM Runs the Guntlet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Creshosk
No he's not its just your usualfanboy twist. If you knew anythign about the weather you'd know HOW those things were related to the weather and not just that they are.

Its sad really how badly you two morons twist what happens to suit your veiws.

You know something? That scan from Uncanny 185 states explicity that the sun resonates within Storm's body even when she is on Earth. She is connected to it. We also know from the Brood Saga and Uncanny 99 that Storm can tap into stars and even summon their full power.

Originally posted by Creshosk

In fact she's not even immune to cold, 2damnloud posted a picture of storm walking around in snow with just a towel or blanket thing and a gust of wind came up and she said she was cold.

Do you want me to explain why the cold affected her in that issue?

Also, if you produce issues that show her being harmed by the elements, its PIS since there is canon that states she cannot be and plenty of canon that proves it. We don't go by PIS on this board.

Originally posted by Rutog98
And that scan shows PIS.

Your opinion on comics is now equal to 0. You and 2damnlousd are nothing more than hypocritical fanboys.

Good day to you.

Storm loses at 2 to a well placed web to the face. *bows and exits once again.*

Originally posted by Creshosk
And that's all I need. you're a hypocrite fanboy not worth debating with. Because you skew everything into your favor.

Your opinion on comics is now equal to 0. You and 2damnlousd are nothing more than hypocritical fanboys.

Good day to you.

Storm loses at 2 to a well placed web to the face. *bows and exits once again.*

LOL. What a joke! My argument was flawless. I brought up canon that shows she can both channel and metabolise those energies that Magneto uses. Hence, Storm's powerset are among the worst case scenerio for Magneto to fight. The only real way he can harm her is by throwing metal. Given the fact that she can punch her way out of mountains of ice and rock with a pressure dome means that she could erect this and deflect his metal projectiles. On top of this, she can use her winds to deflect his projectiles while at the same time battering him with winds since winds can easily cover the battlefield. The offensive capabilities of her winds alone can beat Magneto while her natural immunity to the forces of nature and her pressure dome can protect her from any of his assaults. Those winds alone can strain MAgneto and he cannot strain for long against them without passing out or death or something. This is canon with her winds vs. Magneto. Don't make me get the scan.

Stop being sour because Storm has been proven to be too great for Magneto.

Originally posted by Creshosk
And wolverine can survive a nuke, and spiderman can knockout firelord with his fists and captain america can knock out hulk with his fists.

So I'm going to assume you will no longer be calling this PIS? (Its not because [b]electromagnetism is NOT part of the weather and neither is gamma radiation, merely the heat generated by the sun which causes warm fronts which alters the pressure areas. You are once AGAIN distorting what happened in the comics to fanboy proportions. Its really sad you know NOTHING about the weather.

Anywho Non-PIS feat by Magneto: [/B]

What a damn DUMMYshocklaugh

http://home.gwi.net/~erichard/atmelect.htm

Gamma Radiation:

Sprites could be produced by an avalanche of relativists electrons (with energies higher than 1 MeV) started by cosmic radiation,. This electron beam could interact with the air molecules and to produce an X-ray radiation and secondary gamma. The theoretical studies predict that these mechanisms are accompanied by radio intense transmissions which could reach 10 to several dozens of MHz. Such emissions were not identified until now. The characterization of these emissions could allow a better understanding of these phenomena.

Originally posted by Rutog98
LOL. What a joke! My argument was flawless.

It demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're nothing more than a hypocritical fan boy. And now you're upset and try to use humor as a defensive mechanism, upset about being ignored as you deserve to be.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
What a damn DUMMYshocklaugh

http://home.gwi.net/~erichard/atmelect.htm

[b]Gamma Radiation:

Sprites could be produced by an avalanche of relativists electrons (with energies higher than 1 MeV) started by cosmic radiation,. This electron beam could interact with the air molecules and to produce an X-ray radiation and secondary gamma. The theoretical studies predict that these mechanisms are accompanied by radio intense transmissions which could reach 10 to several dozens of MHz. Such emissions were not identified until now. The characterization of these emissions could allow a better understanding of these phenomena.

[/B]

Do you know how deadly it is? Of course not you don't even know what it is.

Oh and the fastest Jetstreams mesaure are only 250 mph.

300+250=550 mph. those are the speeds she acheived by taking a few minutes to use the jetstream...

*waits for the fanboy to find another way to twist the feat to "Whatever she wants" ignoring the math and science and the scan itself involved.*

Nothing but a pair of hypocritical fanboys who know jack about much of anything.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Your argument one double standard and hypocritical. Skewed facts and is nothing more than a laughable joke.

It demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're nothing more than a hypocritical fan boy. And now you're upset and try to use humor as a defensive mechanism, upset about being ignored as you deserve to be.

What is the double-standard? I am not saying that Magneto cannot manipulate the metal in one's bloodstream. He obviously can given the fact that he does it there. Its just that there are aspects of Storm's powers that should nullify this ability of Magneto's usefulness against her which were ignored for the sake of the story and making Magneto a threat. I am not taking away Magneto's ability to do this. I am giving him credit for his iron-in-the-blood trick, but I am also giving Storm credit for being able to absorb and metabolize those energies or channel them.

Originally posted by Rutog98
What is the double-standard?

The fact that you don't see it is indicitive of deeper psychological problems than I had previously assessed. Remember admital is the first step on the road to recovery.

And no, I'm not reading more of your posts than that which I quote. There's really no reason to cause this is the root of your problem: You don't see it.

What a damn dummy.

Various electrodynamic processes above thunderstorms in the middle atmosphere give rise to a variety of phenomena, such as red sprites, elves, blue jets and terrestrial gamma ray flashes (TGF). We investigate the role of avalanching relativistic runaway electrons in the production of red sprites and terrestrial gamma ray flashes. The Red Sprites are optical emissions primarily in the red region of spectrum, occuring at altitudes of 50-90 km and associated with positive cloud-to-ground discharges. The terrestrial gamma ray flashes were observed by Burst and Transient Source Experiment (BATSE) detectors, located on the Compton Gamma Ray Observatory (CGRO), and described by Fishman et al. [1994]. They last around 1 ms, and the observed photon energies are 20 keV-2 MeV.

The runaway electron breakdown is modelled using Monte Carlo technique [Lehtinen et al., 1999a] to find the avalanche rates and the direction of the electron beam. We also study the nonuniform properties of the avalanche [Lehtinen et al., 1999b] using the same model.

The Monte Carlo model is applied to the Earth's middle and upper atmosphere above thunderstorms, where the electric fields are strong enough to accelerate the electrons upward. The atmosphere can be described as cylindrically symmetric with a vertical axis [Lehtinen et al., 1997] or translationallly symmetric in horizontal direction [Lehtinen et al., 1999a]. Note that the former allows a description only of vertical geomagnetic field, whereas the latter can describe magnetic field at any dip angle.

We investigate the role of avalanching runaway electrons in the production of red sprites and terrestrial gamma ray flashes. The calculated optical emissions in red sprites associated with the runaways are negligible compared to the emission from thermal electrons in the conventional type of breakdown. This result is obtained for all values of the lightning discharge which causes the runaway breakdown in the middle atmosphere. However, the calculated gamma ray flux, due to bremsstrahlung emissions from relativistic electrons, is of the same order as the terrestrial gamma ray flashes observed by the BATSE detector on the Compton Gamma Ray Observatory.

The energetic electrons leaving the atmosphere enter the radiation belts [Lehtinen et al., 1998]. The electron beam interacts with plasma waves in the ionosphere and magnetosphere and precipitates at the geomagnetically conjugate point. Part of the energetic electrons is trapped in the radiation belt, forming an electron "curtain" as the electrons drift in the longitudinal direction.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I can't think for myself because I'm a dumbass who has to have storm win at all costs. So I will not understand the information I post and misconstrue it to suit my purposes. [/i] [/B]

dur

*yawn* It'd be nice if you understood a single thing you posted. A Dumbass such as you calling anyone stupid is like a normal person calling some one smart.

Insult me all you want, due to your dumbassery it can only be taken as a compliment. *shrugs* I don't compliment well however mainly due to apathy.

Originally posted by Creshosk
"Things storm does that are ridiculous aren't PIS. Things done against Storm are."

The fact that you don't see it is indicitive of deeper psychological problems than I had previously assessed. Remember admital is the first step on the road to recovery.

And no, I'm not reading more of your posts than that which I quote. There's really no reason to cause this is the root of your problem: You don't see it.

Actually, you are being ridiculous. You want to negate Storm's powers when it takes her out of the category you put her in. The only reason I am calling these things PIS is because there is canon that gives aspects to Ororo's powers that nullifies these things. If a person TK blasts Ororo and it hurts her, I will not call that PIS. There is no canon to support Storm not being harmed by a telekinetic blast. However, if you hit her with electricity or EM or something of that nature and it does hurt her, then I am going to call it PIS because there is canon that states and demonstrates that these kinds of forces cannot directly harm her.

You are the one who is blind. In order for these things that Magneto is doing to affect her in the ways that it is shown, certain aspects of Storm's powers are being ignored. Hence I am using scans and posting canon that nullify it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
dur

*yawn* It'd be nice if you understood a single thing you posted. A Dumbass such as you calling anyone stupid is like a normal person calling some one smart.

Insult me all you want, due to your dumbassery it can only be taken as a compliment. *shrugs* I don't compliment well however mainly due to apathy.

You're soooooo weak. 😎

Originally posted by Rutog98
Actually, you are being ridiculous.

Sorry, but I don't cater to the whims of fanboys. 😉

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You're soooooo weak. 😎

Originally posted by Creshosk

Thank you. I take that as a compliment from someone who has just proven to be semi-illiterate.

You haven't disputed anything I've said, other than looking at what's been presented and assclowningly stated "that's not gamma radiation"durfist

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You haven't disputed anything I've said, other than looking at what's been presented and assclowningly stated "that's not gamma radiation"durfist

Not much point debating you when you just copy-pasta a bunch of random off topic stuff that you don't understand.

Actually, what is coming across is the fact that you want Magneto to be able to beat Storm. You have seen that his only hope would be to try an iron-in-the-blood trick. I have shown in canon where Storm has powers that nullify the effectiveness of this against her. You are fighting tooth and nail out of desperation. That said, I am going to explain why that scan showed the cold affecting Storm that way eventhough it was stated that she is immune.
Storm cannot be directly harmed by the elements or any of its manifestations as stated here in Uncanny 168:

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thurtherkf7.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thurther2of4.jpg

The reason the elements affected her like that in those panels is because she had just returned to Earth from a stay of MONTHS in space. When Storm goes to a new planet, etc, there is a period of adjustment she has to go through to get attuned to the planet's life-force and ecosystem. Her ability to perceive life, manipulate the elements and her immunity to the elements is dependent on this unity she has. We saw this in the "STorm" mini that came out in the 90s when she was transported to "The Hill" dimension. She saw this in the original "Secret Wars" with the Beyonder. This was also shown in other story arcs.

Storm's unity with life itself gives her the ability to even communicate with plants.

http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen109028gs.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uncannyxmen109036ro.jpg

However, after her long stay out in space, she had to get readjusted to Earth and her unity with life on this planet was off kilter for a bit. See the scan here:

feeling a tree:
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=livinwu5.jpg

However, by Uncanny 185, this is obviously restored to a degree as seen in that scan where Storm allowed Rogue to borrow her powers for a bit here:

http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm185pg12mo8.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm185pg13dm3.jpg

After this all though, she was able to bond with planets and all MUCH faster than than this. Heck, even before then, in the Galactic Core, she was able to bond with the core immediately and summon its full power.

http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm121pg145yd.jpg

Notice here that she alters the weather over the entire North American continent (which is MUCH larger than Antarctica). However, she first flies to the point where the air was so thin and cold that a normal human would perish in seconds. She then channels the blizzard *through* her body to the top of the atmosphere and has no problems whatsoever with this stuff. Her body did not change temperature here to compensate because her body is immune to temperature variation and climate. This fact was stated in a story where Storm went swimming at the mansion nude. Nightcrawler came in and was caught by surprise. Unfortunately, I do not recall the issue where this was stated. However, the scan I provided from Uncanny 168 states that she cannot be directly harmed by the elements (which is even better as it includes this). However, in Storm: The Arena, we see it brought up once again that Storm is immune to the elements (Note: this story comes after the Lobdell/Kelly/Seagle era which limited Storm to a mere resistance!):

http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=notimmunelikestormpm8.jpg

She has also held within her body the full electrical power of a storm. Let me throw some facts at ya. Lava gets no hotter than 4000 degrees F. The surface of the sun is 11,000 degrees F. The average lightning bolt is about 55,000-60,000 degrees F. A positively charged lightning bolt is hundreds of times more powerful than a regular one. A hurricane carries enough power at any given moment to power the US for 6 months. Storm can hold in her body the full electrical power of a storm. Imagine the temperatures of all of that power/energy concentrated in the space of a human body! She had no problems with that either.

As a matter of fact, in these scans, she replinishes her lifeforce with elemental phenomena (in this caseby summoning down lightning upon herself) which also overwhelms the antagonist sucking the life force from her body:

http://img386.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeessencehd4.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeessence3au7.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lifeessence2kb9.jpg
Imagine the temperatures in her body and the extreme radiation content and EM energies when she flew into the galactic core and absorbed the energies of millions of stars which was all condenced in her body to form one star that was the sum of the core here:

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore15zq.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stormandthegalaticcore29bc.jpg

This stunt left out in deep space unprotected as it destroyed her space-ship. She can only survive a few minutes out in space unaided as it was established between Uncanny 160 and 165 (one of those issues). This stunt came from Uncanny 165. In Uncanny 166, we see her floating aimlessly in deep space in the last moments of her life when the Acanti find her and heal her. Here is the scan in Uncanny 166 that gives a flashback to what happened after this scene in 165:

http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmen198302uncannyxmen16ck3.jpg

One more, no problem with the temperatures of MILLIONS of stars!

Now other stories to refute Storm being able to alter the ecosystem over limited areas include as she controls it over VAST areas include:

2) In BP issue 15, the weather over the entire African continent is altered by Storm. (Africa is MUCH larger than even North America!)

3) In "House of M," Storm permanently alters the weather across Africa to make it furtile and improve the economy drastically. The Handbook during this time states that she can alter weather over vast areas!

4) X-Men: The Hidden Years issue 7 where she stops a continent-sized hurricane cold.

5) In the 1991 80 page Winter Special from Marvel, Storm blocks solar flares from the sun that would have wiped out the entire planet by altering the entire planets ecosystem while also tapping into a machine that only shoots gamma rays and pulling out enough gamma rays to envelop the planetwhile at the same time using the energies from the Earth on a global level together to form a gamma-shield to block the sun blasts here:

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7961/elementalcosmicturbulence5px.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7356/elementalcosmicturbulence20af.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9015/elementalcosmicturbulence35qd.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8787/elementalcosmicturbulence47at.jpg

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You haven't disputed anything I've said, other than looking at what's been presented and assclowningly stated "that's not gamma radiation"durfist

Use actual logic and I'll debate with you. Symmetric Chaos is right there is no point in debating with you that which you do not understand. I can print out your words and post them on my wall and there'd be just as much point talking to it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not much point debating you when you just copy-pasta a bunch of random off topic stuff that you don't understand.

Side 1: Storm manipulated Gamma Radiation

Side 2: No, she can't, Science says Gamma Radiation has nothing to do with the weather.

Side 1: presents scientific evidence

side 3: completely stomped.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Actually, what is coming across is the fact that you want Magneto to be able to beat Storm.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Side 1: Storm manipulated Gamma Radiation

Side 2: No, she can't, Science says Gamma Radiation has nothing to do with the weather.

Side 1: presents scientific evidence

side 3: completely stomped.

Who's this side three that loses?