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I place all my money on Vos and Shaak Ti. Guessing how strong Vader is in between ROTS and ANH is hard, however, assuming he increased at a steady rate, in ROTS after first getting the suit he is as strong as Bol Chatak while in the OT he is almost as strong as Dooku. Inbetween Vos alone shoudl give him a nice fight. During the time of ANH he fought a Clone Maul and barely won, so he's got to be below Maul 10 years after - I doubt Vos is extremely far behind Maul. He beat Sora Bulq and Volfe Karkko (though by luck) and he beat Tol Skorr and Kadrian Sey 2 on 1 and owned Skorr one on one amongst other things. Shaak Ti isn't quite as strong as Vos, but she's pretty strong as well. She killed Artel Darc during the Clone Wars, and in the cartoon she seemed nearly as strong as Ki-Adi Mundi (we've all seen what he did with the Force while tired, right?). And Mace picked her to help him search for Darth Sidious in LOE, she was chosen to protect the Chancellor in the cartoon, and she and Vos both survived ROTS. Obi-Wan Kenobi even tells Anakin in the ROTS novel that she has very clever and has taught him a thing or two (not a direct quote, I'm going off of memory here). Together those 2 would make a powerful team, Vader 10 years after ROTS isn't uber yet, just strong. The duo takes him.
Originally posted by darthsith19
I place all my money on Vos and Shaak Ti. Guessing how strong Vader is in between ROTS and ANH is hard, however, assuming he increased at a steady rate, in ROTS after first getting the suit he is as strong as Bol Chatak while in the OT he is almost as strong as Dooku. Inbetween Vos alone shoudl give him a nice fight. During the time of ANH he fought a Clone Maul and barely won, so he's got to be below Maul 10 years after - I doubt Vos is extremely far behind Maul. He beat Sora Bulq and Volfe Karkko (though by luck) and he beat Tol Skorr and Kadrian Sey 2 on 1 and owned Skorr one on one amongst other things. Shaak Ti isn't quite as strong as Vos, but she's pretty strong as well. She killed Artel Darc during the Clone Wars, and in the cartoon she seemed nearly as strong as Ki-Adi Mundi (we've all seen what he did with the Force while tired, right?). And Mace picked her to help him search for Darth Sidious in LOE, she was chosen to protect the Chancellor in the cartoon, and she and Vos both survived ROTS. Obi-Wan Kenobi even tells Anakin in the ROTS novel that she has very clever and has taught him a thing or two (not a direct quote, I'm going off of memory here). Together those 2 would make a powerful team, Vader 10 years after ROTS isn't uber yet, just strong. The duo takes him.
Lol i was right after all. For darth siths arguement vader can beat nobody, especially when vader took down stronger opponents
Vader is a beast by the end of RODV. With another nine years of training and experience he should have this in the bag.
Lol i was right after all. For darth siths arguement vader can beat nobody, especially when vader took down stronger opponents
Vader wins this, comfortably in a saber duel, laughable easy in the Force.
Yeah, vader wins, Why? Well, he is a movie character laughing
How the hell have you proven that Maul is above Vader? Oh wait thats right, you haven't. There's absolutely no way to judge if the "clone Maul" was equal to or greater than the real Maul, so using that as "evidence" is extremely fallible.
You can try to divert the attention of the actual debate by saying Vader fans "suck his dick" all you want, however it doesn't negate anything that anyone else says. Also, when you bring Maul into EVERY debate you're in, its pretty obvious you're sucking on some maul cock, yourself. Try to just stick your...arguments...and see if you can sway others opinions that way...
How the hell have you proven that Maul is above Vader? Oh wait thats right, you haven't.
Originally posted by darthsith19
During the time of ANH he fought a Clone Maul and barely won, so he's got to be below Maul 10 years after
There's absolutely no way to judge if the "clone Maul" was equal to or greater than the real Maul, so using that as "evidence" is extremely fallible.
You can try to divert the attention of the actual debate by saying Vader fans "suck his dick" all you want, however it doesn't negate anything that anyone else says. Also, when you bring Maul into EVERY debate you're in, its pretty obvious you're sucking on some maul cock, yourself. Try to just stick your...arguments...and see if you can sway others opinions that way...
Maul > vader in saber vader > maul in the force.
All you did was prove maul is superior to vader in saber combat which we clearly saw in the comic.
Oh and btw i dont remember roan shryne giving an in experienced darth vader trouble who still has his anakin arrogance because he took down a more powerful jedi than shryne and shaak ti later on a few years BBY
Oh and btw i dont remember roan shryne giving an in experienced darth vader trouble who still has his anakin arrogance because he took down a more powerful jedi than shryne and shaak ti later on a few years BBYHe fought 8 jedi at once in Purge, which is not too long after RODV, i would assume, he took out 5 of them.
Sorry, I couldn't reply because I was out of town.
All you did was prove maul is superior to vader in saber combat which we clearly saw in the comic.
Oh and btw i dont remember roan shryne giving an in experienced darth vader trouble who still has his anakin arrogance because he took down a more powerful jedi than shryne and shaak ti later on a few years BBY
He fought 8 jedi at once in Purge, which is not too long after RODV, i would assume, he took out 5 of them.
Yes and that vader is weaker and too hasty compared to what OT vader is. Mind you that vader nearly got his ass wiped
Actually, the duo could beat them, if they were in the same situation that Vader was in. Cause then Tsui Choi and Bultar Swan would not attack at first and there’d only be six. Sia-Lan Wezz was a non-factor in the fight – she pretty much let Vader stab her. Either of the duo could kill her right off the bat. Rolbio Darte and Jastus Far are the strongest (actually, the only strong ones fighting at that time). Shaak Ti could engage them in combat and it would be close.
That leaves Vos to deal with Shadday Potkin, Koffi Arana and Ma'kis'shaalas. Vader killed Ma'kis'shaalas in one move while fending off 4 other Jedi – unless you are trying to say Vos is less than 50% of Purge Vader, he could do the same thing while fending off 2 Jedi. That leaves him vs. Potkin and Arana, both of whom are very weak. Vos during the beginning of the Clone Wars took on Tol Skorr and Kadrien Sey, 2 on 1, and beat them, and it wasn’t super close. Those 2 have got to be stronger than these 2 weak Jedi. I say he pwns them.
Now, this is where it gets tricky.
If Tsui Choi and Bultar Swan saw Vos kill the Jedi and they jumped in right then, which they likely would, I’m not sure if Vos could beat them. I’m not to sure how strong Bultar is. And I’m not sure if Shaak Ti could take out Farr and Darte, 2 on 1, either. Upon re-thinking it could go either way, 50/50. Still puts them above Purge Vader, who lost without the help of his Clone Troopers, though.
I would say vader takes this with many major wounds, since this battle does take place on the death star the majority of the fighting is gonna take place in close quarters. since vos is form IV Ataru much of his dueling requires flourishes and large sweeps and flips, shaak ti is speculated to be the same as of her style in basically everything she is in.
Vader is thus at an advantage, Vader though slow, is quite capable of defending against either on one on one in that situation.
the real argument is whether vader is more powerful in the force than both of them
Vader would hold vos in a force choke while he fights shaak ti with his lightsaber, much the same way he did with Cin Drallig and Bene except his speed is very hampered but shaak wont be able to use her superior agility in such close quarters, and he is much stronger in the force than ROTS vader so his hold on vos would be pretty easy
and just so you know i am a major quinlan fan so saying vader takes him isnt easy for me but true