Darth Vader vs Shaak Ti, Quinlan Vos,

Why wouldnt vader lock blades with them?

Prove to me its short seeing that you dont even own the book.

And so forte and kulka went in as a team, each of them employing a different lightsaber style, determined to off balace vader

Forte and kulka were skilled duelists

He employed his awesome power to put a quick end to the fancy twirling of his opponents

That indicates they were using ataru as ataru have alot of force assisted acrobatics demonstrated by yoda and qui gon

Which vader can parry as he held one jedi in a telekenetic grip while parrying the attacks of 3 other jedis

Nope but the fact that you are. Vader didnt have the chance to do it seeing that maul is one of the greatest duelists and pushed himself beyond the limit. This is however an isolated case

He would. Iv just destroyed your assertion that if 2 ppl fight 1 dude the 2 people win. Vos and shaak ti are no where in the level of vader or maul

And how are they going to hack at him when he uses the force? Force waving them would obviously send them back flying and they wouldnt be able to even swing their saber

Sadly i never said vader was "less" experienced who fought maul at that time. Its the fact he wanted to take maul in a lightsaber duel and failing to realise maul is deadly in the arts of the lightsaber. Had vader known what maul is or how powerful he is, he would have taken him out with the force

Lol? Sidious already stated not many jedi during the PT were even half as powerful as his suited form in RODV.

And prove that he cant take out 5 council members with the force/ Whoa karkko defeating 5 members of the council? Or do you mean this :

He used his command of the Force to trap and consume many victims, before he was confronted and defeated by six representatives of the Jedi High Council on Kiffex.

Ot vader > mace? Depends on which category. Lightsaber? Hell no seeing that mace would wipe his ass But the force? Mace would get taken down though it wont be easy

Originally posted by Count Makashi
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=41&page=099

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Originally posted by darthsith19
Don't avoid the question, Kadesh - why would Vos lock blades with Vader?

Originally posted by darthsith19

Oh wow, and how the fvck am I supposed to do that? I can't, you do own the book so you provide the proof. Quit being a dick. Oh, and btw, saying that it was a long duel makes Vader appear weaker, you know.

You claimed you read the book yet you dont have it, wtf?

If you think i made those up then goto a library or borrow it from some one dumbshit

Originally posted by darthsith19

Oh wow, they used different forms, big deal. 🙄

Originally posted by darthsith19

Can anybody confirm this, because I'm fairly certain that Kadesh just made it up.

Around 3.5 ABY, Vader had ordered ASP-19 droids, lightsaber combat droids based off the ASP-series droid, to be produced to fight him in sparring matches. They were faster and stronger than an ordinary man, and programmed with the knowledge of a hundred sword masters and a dozen fighting styles. Vader defeated them time and again, and thus ordered new, improved batches of them. As his finesse improved, they became too easy to defeat, even in a two-on-one match.

^ Jedi academy and Shadows of the empire backs this up.

Originally posted by darthsith19

Who's "they"? It sounds like "they" is Forte and Kulka, but how could they both be using Ataru if "each of them employing a different lightsaber style". Oh, and right there it says he put a quick end to them, which is what I've been saying all along.

Dumbshit do you fail to realise vaders apprentice killed shaakti?

Vader > his apprentice

Originally posted by darthsith19

When?

Originally posted by darthsith19

"but the fact that you are"? Dude, learn how to type. Why didn't Vader use the Force on Maul before he ever engaged him in saber combat? Apparently, that's what he's going to do in this fight but why would he do it now when he's never done it in a fight ever before?

Originally posted by darthsith19

No, you've proved that Forte and Kulka, 2 on 1, can't take down Vader, which I never denied. That doesn't mean 2 different people would lose to Vader. By the logic your using Vader could take down Yoda and Mace, 2 on 1.

When did my logic state that 2 on 1 = vader beats any two? Why else do you think you are labled dumb ass of the year?

Let me tell you bout your "Logic". Your a vader hater and so biased against him that any one with lightning beats him. I saw that shit in bastila vs vader and guess what? By your logic R2 will wtf pwn vader due to him having an electric stun gun

Originally posted by darthsith19

Mind explaining how he's going to find a break in the duel long enough to get a chance to use the Force?

Originally posted by darthsith19

But Vader did know about Maul, he knew he killed Qui-Gon Jinn,

Originally posted by darthsith19

he saw him fight Jinn on Tatioone,

Originally posted by darthsith19

Kenobi would certainly have told Anakin about Maul, dude Maul even fights Anakin in the first Jedi Quest book.

Originally posted by darthsith19

So Vader knew more about Maul than he does about Vos and Ti.

Originally posted by darthsith19

Quote? And btw, Karkko wasn't a Jedi during the PT, and that's "not many". There's 10,000 jedi in the PT. Karkko's stronger than nearly all of them.

Apparantly i cant find the quote, Think im lieing because you cant counter what i said? Go ask JJ to confirm it with him

Originally posted by darthsith19

I asked you to prove that Vader could take out 5 members of the Council - don't respond by asking my proof that he couldn't

Originally posted by darthsith19

I asked you first, go ahead and answer it, if you can. Oh, and btw, now you have to prove that vader could take out 6 members of the Council (thatnks for the quote saying it was 6, and not 5 as I thought it was 😆 ).

He is stronger than vos and shaak ti weather you like it or not. You just cannot accept the fact can you?

Originally posted by darthsith19

So then overall who is stronger between OT Vader and Mace, in your opinion? Equal?

Wow, that is pretty impressive. Coincidentally, there's no proof that Vader could have done that with tk. Coincidentally, theres no proof that vader couldnt have done that with tk seeing that he can unleash attacks with each of his hands.

Give it up dumbshit you have failed to prove everything. ^ by your logic if i had a pistol in each hand i wouldnt be able to fire it because of "dumbshits" logic. Right and how often the swat team uses dual pistols? Never right? Does that mean i need proof to say that they can use dual pistols and fire them?

Get what i mean? Your an idiot

Originally posted by Manslayer

[B]Wow, that is pretty impressive. Coincidentally, there's no proof that Vader could have done that with tk. Coincidentally, theres no proof that vader couldnt have done that with tk seeing that he can unleash attacks with each of his hands. [/B]

this is a pointless argument you guys just keep going in circles

it doesnt matter if he can use both his hands hell, he doesnt even have hands.All that matters is that he can use the force on multiple opponents which has been proven.

the force can be projected whether you have hands or not, an exception of course would be lightning, but the fact is vader could hold one in a grip or choke or whatever and still hold his lighsaber with both hands and concentrate completely on the other opponent

and darthsith, you seem determined to suggest that while he does that the one he's "not paying attention to" would stab him in the back!!!! im pretty sure vader would sense if someone was about to stab him in the back and he would either dodge, parry, or just tighten his force grip over that said person. And just think of the setting, The Death Star, lets think about this, close quarters, it would be pretty hard to flank him or use said ataru flips and attacks that, as ds said "vader couldnt lock" which he could.

oh and all this stuff about vader knowing maul or knowing shaak ti and quinlan is crap. In DLRDV it says that vader forgets most of his past except, obi, yoda, mace, padme, and a few others, i doubt he would remember trivial people to him such as a child hood menace that he barely glimpsed twice, or 2 jedi in a war that constituted thousands.

when vader fought maul it didnt seem like he knew his fighting style or how to counter it quickly but the fact is he won, its all up to circumstances and setting, yes quinlan and shaak ti would give him a run for his money but the fact is vader would win, he's fought countless jedi (as darth vader in the suit) what are two more jedi gonna change, and dont u think hes fought ataru users before? i mean hes hunted hundreds of jedi across the universe, dont u think at least a couple of them wer ataru users? and if he can best those jedi, and all the jedi we know he has already bested (as vader in the suit) then 2 more jedi are just gonna add to his kill count.

Vader could have defeated those guards just as easily as Dooku, so lets not have that debate again.

And to the above post, not to mention that he was a Jedi for 13 years and probably had practice matches with users with all forms, Ataru inst an unknown to him.