Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I don't think you understand, the point I'm trying to make is why shouldn't we question the definition of God we are given?No not really, it's a poor example. I'd use an example of tidal patters or at least a natural phenomena, if I was you.
Tidal patters? You are dodging.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Tidal patters? You are dodging.
No, I'm saying there's a lot more complicated things around than computers. Your example supports evolution more, as we have evolved to create complicated items such as computers, when in the past we couldn't. Tidal patterns have always been there and always been complicated and never man made.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
No, I'm saying there's a lot more complicated things around than computers. Your example supports evolution more, as we have evolved to create complicated items such as computers, when in the past we couldn't. Tidal patterns have always been there and always been complicated and never man made.
I use computers because they are complex and they required a designer.
True or false chillmeistergen your brain is more complicated than a computer?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You agree that computers had a designer. But you do not believe that your brain or the human body had an intelligent Designer?
Where have I ever said that I don;t believe humans had a designer? I've already told you, I'm agnostic. You've made up arguments in your head.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Where have I ever said that I don;t believe humans had a designer? I've already told you, I'm agnostic. You've made up arguments in your head.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
No, I'm saying there's a lot more complicated things around than computers. Your example supports evolution more, as we have evolved to create complicated items such as computers, when in the past we couldn't. Tidal patterns have always been there and always been complicated and never man made.
Many people cannot make the distinction between atheism and agnosticism. Agnosticism is belief in God, but disbelief in the idea that God is knowable. The typical agnostic does not believe in evolution. Yet you do. This quote of yours is where I got the idea that you were not agnostic because the typical agnostic does not believe in evolution.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveNow who is trying to trap who? 😉
True of false ThePittman a computer is complex?
As for your question this is not a true or false question, as I said before black and white. You have to have a frame or reference and a comparison in function to make this a valid question which you have not which is why this is also a leading question. It would also depend on the person that you are asking, to one it would be more "complex" then the other.
the human brain needs not a designer other than time itself, there is no evidence that God excists and the bible is created by people alone.
you cannot prove otherwise because all your so called "evidence" is simply your narrow minded beliefs as well as bible stories, which is all they are, "stories", sure.....all in all the Bible is a good book, but it belongs in the fiction section of the libary, maybe just under Lord of the rings.
"Evolution is a fairy tale, and it is not possible."
so an all powerful being that created all life and history in the universe IS possible?, riiigghhhtt (men prepare the straight jackets). I think a padded cell will do you some good, not to menstion Evolution has been proven in some forms of life through the research of bones compared to living organisms of today
so this brings us to the proof of the all powerful entity?...hmm..not much here is there, a book called the bible, obviously created by humans, of this anyone understands but "apparently" although no evidence can possibly suggest it, this all powerful entity called God gives us divine inspirtation for his stories......rigghht...(infact keep the straight jacket, it wont help this guy).
ime afraid your beliefs are fairy tale JIA and their only evidence is a book supposedly inspired to man by God.....how conveniant
i also find it so conveniant that he doesnt appear to us, conveniant that through all these beliefs and faiths and his infinite power that he just wants to watch over us, but no no no, modern times he cannot seem to manifest...why is this? why doesnt he come down to the Earth in true form...powerless?, i mean if hes so powerful why not? it seems according to your stories that Demons and Devils can do it frequently.
Computers designer is humans, so what? this imediatley means EVERYTHING has a designer?, nothing can possibly point to that, infact the scientific approach because at least they can prove certain things with values, not just their opinions and a false book is that the Earth is simply the product of the suns creation, pieces of rock brought together by gravity from the sun, the sun comes from nebula, which is left over sometimes after the death of a star OR as it is reducing to a mere white dwarf star, and so the process stars again. This all started according to science from the big bang which happened because of a primeval atom, which is far more beleivable that a godlike entity.
ofcourse your going to say, God made it happen...but ofcourse theres no proof in that.
also if you say something as complex as a human brain needs a designer, it seems according to you that God must of had a designer, the all powerful entity of infinite power, surely something so infinite and so complicated has a designer, ofcourse my answer is humans..we are his designer, ofcourse you would probably say he appeared from nowhere...or the conveniant "he was just there....nothing created him" madness.....
The "typical agnostic" does not conclude the existence or nonexistence of deities. The word was coined by Thomas Huxley, who actually held relatively negative views of religion compared to what's considered modern agnosticism.
I'd love to see you produce a source that says the "typical agnostic" does not agree with evolution.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He would just get a new sock. 😉
the JIA affect, turns nice boys NASTY! 😈 😈 😈 😈
honestly, its amazing how jia can spout out more BS out of his mouth in a single day, than a cow can spew out of its _ _ _ in a year.{the number of pages jia has filled with his nonesenical posts from the time i left yestreday to today is truly LEGENDARY}. cant even be botherd with how STUPID and thick one has to be to write all that stuff. just wanna correct two things.
"eloih eloih lama sabaktagin" does NOT translate to "MY god MY god why hast thou forsaken me" it translated to "OH god OH god why hast thou forsaken me".
secondly, jis is intentionally misinterpreting and mistranslating verses to support the fact that jesus said that he was the sun of godwhen asked straight out. jesus himself neither said, nor inferred, ANY such thing.. that is a well known fact in comparitive relegion.
the past pages otherwise seem to consist of this:
x: how can trinity be one and three, at the same time, in the same perspective, simultaneously, harmonious and one, and at the same time, three complete entities{and byt the word entitiy's literal definition, it is unique and independant}
JIA: dost thine eyes see not how a rack can have two breasts?!?! does that make the rack two different things? just like that, god can be triune and at the same time, one.
does an ass not have two cheeks????? but isnt it still just one ass???? do u then deny this truth?????
does destiny's child not have beyonce, kelly and god knows whom? but still they can remain one band.
can a man not be a pimp, a jigello and a saint? does that mean hes three men??? u see how uttterly illogical you heathen fools are? he is still one and the same.
do you understand what i am saying? therefre god exists.
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and btw, in the terms ur talking about, the brain did have a designer, the dna of the fetus in the mother's womb. u see ASSEMBLY of components to create a computer is very different from CREATING a computer out of nothing, when neither space, mass, energy, force, or time, dimensions exist. not to mention that the very concept of anything and everything a computer can be seen to embody does not exist. furthermore, if we are to go by EVIDENCE, then DESIGN, is assembly and not CREATION. furthermore, we can see that no mystical forces helps or props the development of cells/molecules in the mother's womb.{honestly whobmadog was 10 times more intelligent than you}
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God's existence is a fact.Read the prophecies about Jesus and the ones that Jesus spoke (all came to pass). Only God can predict the future with 100% accuracy.
I am credible because my Word is not my own but God's.
Thank you for proving my statement.
Edit: Computers are complex only based on perspective. If you look down to the basics of programs that operate it, it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's. Congratulations on delving into yet another subject that you have no real knowledge of. +10 ineptitude.
Originally posted by AngryManateeDamn, I was waiting for him to respond to me to point that out. 🙁
Thank you for proving my statement.Edit: Computers are complex only based on perspective. If you look down to the basics of programs that operate it, it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's. Congratulations on delving into yet another subject that you have no real knowledge of. +10 ineptitude.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Many people cannot make the distinction between atheism and agnosticism. Agnosticism is belief in God, but disbelief in the idea that God is knowable. The typical agnostic does not believe in evolution. Yet you do. This quote of yours is where I got the idea that you were not agnostic because the typical agnostic does not believe in evolution.
The typical agnostic does not believe in evolution? Agnostics believe in God? Do you have any idea what you're on about?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive😆 How did I miss this one?
Many people cannot make the distinction between atheism and agnosticism. Agnosticism is belief in God, but disbelief in the idea that God is knowable. The typical agnostic does not believe in evolution. Yet you do. This quote of yours is where I got the idea that you were not agnostic because the typical agnostic does not believe in evolution.
JIA, you don't know the difference so the many do know and you don't.