Originally posted by UniOmni
On average, you're right, i'm not serious.But going by the stance Jun took, it works perfectly.
But you're not smart enough to understand that, so meh.
I'm not smart enough? 😆 You and Carver were the ones who argued that Superman wouldn't solo that avengers team you put together. You don't even consider Darkseid a skyfather.
And your arguement was BS. How many times do people like Juntai and me have to tell you? KMC doesn't work the way comics do. Under KMC rules, that team loses. and Superman survives BB's scream, probably not KOed either.
You have no credibility.
None.
I've never said Darkseid isn't a skyfather.
That'd be the epitome of stupidity, since he's the head of the New Gods of Apok, whereas Takion is the head of NG.
What i do say, is that all skyfathers aren't created equal, since i don't think he can take Odin for anything like a majority.
And the fact that you believe Superman wouldn't be koed by a scream from BB, tells me how little you understand of the way comics work.
Peers of Superman are dropped and koed by whispers.
Superman going by his myriad of feats would probably be fine, but writers don't weigh feats the way we do.
They just see trump cards, and go accordingly.
I'd bet you if the JLA came to the Moon and went to Attilan, a whisper from BB would drop the collective group.
And in single head to head matchups, a whisper from BB would give him the edge needed to either ko Superman or stalemate him.
The only time Superman would take something like that, is if the writer is pushing an agenda, ala Superman in OWAW.
Outside of that, a whisper would suffice.
But you're gonna come at me with something atypically stupid, so meh again.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm not smart enough? 😆 You and Carver were the ones who argued that Superman wouldn't solo that avengers team you put together. You don't even consider Darkseid a skyfather.And your arguement was BS. How many times do people like Juntai and me have to tell you? KMC doesn't work the way comics do. Under KMC rules, that team loses. and Superman survives BB's scream, probably not KOed either.
Why did you mention your name in the same sentence as Juntai's? Is this some tactic to boost your credibility?
What Uni was saying is that based on showings, not just high showings, but all showings all his assessments were legit assessments.
For example if entered a debate only using Superman's exploding gas station feat, and Hulk's dark cosmos feat then Hulk would win.
If you took Surfer's brick feat, and Thor Exitar feat than Thor would win.
If you took Surfer's Annihilation feat and Thor's shotgun feat than Surfer would win.
etc
Originally posted by UniOmni
You have no credibility.None.
I've never said Darkseid isn't a skyfather.
That'd be the epitome of stupidity, since he's the head of the New Gods of Apok, whereas Takion is the head of NG.
What i do say, is that all skyfathers aren't created equal, since i don't think he can take Odin for anything like a majority.
And the fact that you believe Superman wouldn't be koed by a scream from BB, tells me how little you understand of the way comics work.
Peers of Superman are dropped and koed by whispers.
Superman going by his myriad of feats would probably be fine, but writers don't weigh feats the way we do.
They just see trump cards, and go accordingly.
I'd bet you if the JLA came to the Moon and went to Attilan, a whisper from BB would drop the collective group.
And in single head to head matchups, a whisper from BB would give him the edge needed to either ko Superman or stalemate him.
The only time Superman would take something like that, is if the writer is pushing an agenda, ala Superman in OWAW.
Outside of that, a whisper would suffice.
But you're gonna come at me with something atypically stupid, so meh again.
Peers of Superman? 🤨 Like who? If you start saying guys like Glads, Hulk or other marvel earth based heroes, I'm going to laugh. Almost none of those guys are peers of Superman. Supes is leagues beyond Gladiator.
😱 you think BB can solo the JLA? hysterical And with a whisper? There's no way in hell he could take most, if any of the Big 7 in a straight fight. The JLA big 7 would destroy Attilian. 😆 I'm sorry, that statement is just retarded. 👇
Originally posted by His Airness
Why did you mention your name in the same sentence as Juntai's? Is this some tactic to boost your credibility?What Uni was saying is that based on showings, not just high showings, but all showings all his assessments were legit assessments.
For example if entered a debate only using Superman's exploding gas station feat, and Hulk's dark cosmos feat then Hulk would win.
If you took Surfer's brick feat, and Thor Exitar feat than Thor would win.
If you took Surfer's Annihilation feat and Thor's shotgun feat than Surfer would win.
etc
This is why PIS is not counted. doped
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Peers of Superman? 🤨 Like who? If you start saying guys like Glads, Hulk or other marvel earth based heroes, I'm going to laugh. Almost none of those guys are peers of Superman.😱 you think BB can solo the JLA? hysterical And with a whisper? There's no way in hell he could take most, if any of the Big 7 in a straight fight. The JLA big 7 would destroy Attilian. 😆 I'm sorry, that statement is just retarded. 👇
This is why PIS is not counted. doped
You missed my point completely. 🙁
BASED ON SHOWINGS. Pis feats are considered showings you know?
Originally posted by His Airness
You missed my point completely. 🙁BASED ON SHOWINGS. Pis feats are considered showings you know?
Not under forum rules. PIS showings are automatically discounted.
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
Semantically speaking, what Uni is declaring makes sense. This is of course assuming Black Bolt gets in a situation where he has the opportunity to scream directly in Superman's face, and also assuming Kal does absolutely nothing about it.
It may take awhile, but Black Bolt's "no holds barred" scream would probably KO Superman if he were to just stand there and not do anything about it. Of course, the same logic can be applied to Black Bolt if he took a full dose of heat vision right in the face.
However, the occurrences leading up to said event is what I question the most. More than likely, Superman would drop Black Bolt before that could happen.
Even if Black Bolt got in the scream, it wouldn't exactly be out of the realm of possibility (since we're presupposing a fight between these two in an actual comic book) for Superman to (with a struggle, but imposingly nevertheless) fly through the blast and KO him with a right cross (especially if it were in a Superman comic).
But like Jun said, with a little intelligent usage of Superman's power set, he could use a counteractive frequency of sound via his voice to make Black Bolt's scream void. Would that transpire in a comic (which is what Uni is most interested in)? Probably not. If Superman were to get out of that predicament in a comic, he'd probably have to use all of his energy to walk through it in order to get to Black Bolt.
Of course, if we used this logic all the time, bringing up durability feats for characters in fights would become futile, which imo, is illogical in and of itself.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not under forum rules. PIS showings are automatically discounted.Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
You truly are stupid. 🙁
Originally posted by batdude123
Semantically speaking, what Uni is declaring makes sense. This is of course assuming Black Bolt gets in a situation where he has the opportunity to scream directly in Superman's face, and also assuming Kal does absolutely nothing about it.It may take awhile, but Black Bolt's "no holds barred" scream would probably KO Superman if he were to just stand there and not do anything about it. Of course, the same logic can be applied to Black Bolt if he took a full dose of heat vision right in the face.
However, the occurrences leading up to said event is what I question the most. More than likely, Superman would drop Black Bolt before that could happen.
Even if Black Bolt got in the scream, it wouldn't exactly be out of the realm of possibility (since we're presupposing a fight between these two in an actual comic book) for Superman to (with a struggle, but imposingly nevertheless) fly through the blast and KO him with a right cross (especially if it were in a Superman comic).
But like Jun said, with a little intelligent usage of Superman's power set, he could use a counteractive frequency of sound via his voice to make Black Bolt's scream void. Would that transpire in a comic (which is what Uni is most interested in)? Probably not. If Superman were to get out of that predicament in a comic, he'd probably have to use all of his energy to walk through it in order to get to Black Bolt.
Of course, if we used this logic all the time, bringing up durability feats for characters in fights would become futile, which imo, is illogical in and of itself.
The most i could buy is Superman walking through a whisper, and even that would be highly disrespectful to BB.
A scream would likely vape Superman, since his aura can be dropped when enough damage piles on.
A scream would likely be enough to wear away his aura, and then he catches the back end of the scream without his nifty aura to defend him?
Scattered atoms i say.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The most i could buy is Superman walking through a whisper, and even that would be highly disrespectful to BB.A scream would likely vape Superman, since his aura can be dropped when enough damage piles on.
A scream would likely be enough to wear away his aura, and then he catches the back end of the scream without his nifty aura to defend him?
Scattered atoms i say.
At the same time, we've seen things from Superman that his so called "peers" have never done.
Black Bolt's scream wouldn't kill Superman, even in a comic. Wanna know why? Because when writers take into consideration the so-called "trump cards" characters possess, they also take into consideration that he's the "God damned Superman" as well.
But, answer me this question. Do you honestly think Black Bolt would take down Superman in a comic book fight? The answer to that is no.