presuit or suited vader? Presuit vader beats maul in saber. Suit vader loses to maul in swordplay but wins in a force fight
So, you mean that, after anakin being burn alive, he magically increased his force powers? Then you accuse the others from being bias about his favourite character...
Anakin pre-mustafar easily beats maul, after mustafar he loses badly (if by ANH he had that much trouble with him, imagine 19 years before...).
I don't get why people are saying suited Vader is better than Maul yet Revan isn't better than Maul. Suit Vader only won because he ran himself and Maul through with his own saber. If he didn't, Maul wouldve easily finished him off.
Suit Vader puts up a fight in sabers, but gets killed but Vader defeats Maul in Force, though.
If this is Pre-suit Vader, then he wins all.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
I Revan isn't better than Maul
Revan=better in the force
Maul=better in lightsaber combat (revan's skill still unknown)
So an all out fight could go either but I'm not going to get into that and go off topic. Plus there is a current revan/maul thread.
Suit Vader only won because he ran himself and Maul through with his own saber. If he didn't, Maul wouldve easily finished him off.
Vader defeats Maul in Force, though.
Originally posted by Darth HordI know that, but people are saying Suited Vader could beat Maul in both saber and Force, which is bullshit. In Force, yes, but in saber, the morel likely thing is Maul would kill him.
[B]Revan=better in the force
Maul=better in lightsaber combat (revan's skill still unknown)
So an all out fight could go either but I'm not going to get into that and go off topic. Plus there is a current revan/maul thread.
But it did happen so vader did win in a ligthsaber duel against maul. But I think another lightsaber duel between them could go either way because you don't know if they were to fight againm if maul would be arrogant again and get himself killed. Plus if a I remember didn't the terrain play some type of role in the fight in the comics?No, HE was the one that was defeated. He only killed Maul because Maul got cocky(Again) and he managed to get in a cheap shot. So no, in an all out saber duel, Vader would lose. No, basically they fought until they got onto a piece of floating rock and kept fighting until Maul beat him, and then Vader got in the cheap shot.
Originally posted by ESB -1138That was because he just found out he lost his wife and kid(s). Whose to say he could do the same again but without that motivation for the act?
Vader was whipping out a medical room the second he went into the suit. Vader would just crush Maul's head.
I'm not disagreeing with you on Vader beating Maul in Force, but unless he was really pushed that far again, and this is all under the assumption that he can control it, there is no way it would work successfully or that he could do it again.
Basically; it's his emotions that are the key here and could probably trigger that much power, but they would REALLY need to be pushed far like after hearing his wife and kid(s) was dead, which I don't think would really be successful without him being able to control it.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
No, HE was the one that was defeated. He only killed Maul because Maul got cocky(Again) and he managed to get in a cheap shot. So no, in an all out saber duel, Vader would lose. No, basically they fought until they got onto a piece of floating rock and kept fighting until Maul beat him, and then Vader got in the cheap shot.
That maybe true,man I wish I could that comic right (can't get it on sw 🙁 ) It was one of my favorites. Would you say though that it was Vader(suited) at his peak? Just curious because that could have an impact if this was not the peak of the suited vader. Not saying that a suited vader with a little more experience would last better.
Originally posted by Darth HordNo. Pre-Suit ROTS Vader was probably his overall peak, but he had learned to control his emotions and channel that into concentration, he wouldve OWNED Obi-Wan with ease.
That maybe true,man I wish I could that comic right (can't get it on sw 🙁 ) It was one of my favorites. Would you say though that it was Vader(suited) at his peak? Just curious because that could have an impact if this was not the peak of the suited vader. Not saying that a suited vader with a little more experience would last better.
When suited Vader battled Maul in the comics, I think the time was set a few months after either ANH or ESB, and he was defeated by Maul, so since ROTS Vader is probably weaker and less experienced, he would probably be guaranteed to lose in a saber fight, since he's still getting used to the suit.
