Movie Silver Surfer vs Movie Phoenix

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

while she lifted alot of diff things, I think the heaviest was her familys home.

Im not sure *that* would be enuff, however I havent seen the FF2-movie yet so Im still unsure.

Tazer

Probably the water she was lifting in the end (and in the same time was destroying the island) was considerably heavier than the house.
And everythin she lifeted, she lifted with ease.

And then if you go by that, ''I am not sure that would be enough'', well in X3 she didn't lift anything heavy as Magneto lifting the bridge, but we all know she could do it extremely easily.

Surfer.

so weve gotten to the point in this forum where people now think that being able to lift a house puts you in position to KO the surfer

The Surfer absorbs jean like he does ..... whoooppps ! 🙁

Originally posted by Doctor D.P.
The Surfer absorbs jean like he does ..... whoooppps ! 🙁

Wait, nevermind, I thought you were talking about an upcoming comic.

Destroying somethin that is many time larger than the planet Earth itself requires energy surpassing that of movie Phoenix has ever done..

Lets see Unlimited energy according to a member of FF..
matter manipulation on a global scale (Could turn of Jeans mutant DNA)
Speed (id say light speed)
There's more but id be spoiling the movie for yah all..

Planet busting energy, Surfer takes this w/ ease..

Yo.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Probably the water she was lifting in the end (and in the same time was destroying the island) was considerably heavier than the house.
And everythin she lifeted, she lifted with ease.

And then if you go by that, ''I am not sure that would be enough'', well in X3 she didn't lift anything heavy as Magneto lifting the bridge, but we all know she could do it extremely easily.

U mean the water she was holding back in X2?? that didnt look to me like she did so w/ease, or else she wouldve been able to not get caught by the pressure after the BB got away.

and since that ver of Phoenix did less than 10% of the stuff we saw her pull off in the comics, U really cant say "we all know she could do it extremely easily" since this is a totally diff beast.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

U mean the water she was holding back in X2?? that didnt look to me like she did so w/ease, or else she wouldve been able to not get caught by the pressure after the BB got away.

and since that ver of Phoenix did less than 10% of the stuff we saw her pull off in the comics, U really cant say "we all know she could do it extremely easily" since this is a totally diff beast.

Tha water in X3.

Surfer wins. Period. If you saw the feats Surfer was doing in that movie, WITHOUT TRYING, you'd understand. I don't wanna get into it, but basically, bow down... to Norrin Radd.

Originally posted by rotiart
Surfer wins. Period. If you saw the feats Surfer was doing in that movie, WITHOUT TRYING, you'd understand. I don't wanna get into it, but basically, bow down... to Norrin Radd.

Am, and what was so impressive, like Victor with having SS power loosing the fight against Torch.

He showed no great speed, nor great TK abilities and even matter manipulation wasn't something.

Many said what he did, they take SS comic book counterpart, what he can do, well this is movie and he hasn't shown anything special.

Everything also Phoenix did in the movie, she was doing easily.

And the novel X3, I think, mentions that Phoenix was holding back that she didn't disintegrate Logan.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Am, and what was so impressive, like Victor with having SS power loosing the fight against Torch.

He showed no great speed, nor great TK abilities and even matter manipulation wasn't something.

Many said what he did, they take SS comic book counterpart, what he can do, well this is movie and he hasn't shown anything special.

Everything also Phoenix did in the movie, she was doing easily.

And the novel X3, I think, mentions that Phoenix was holding back that she didn't disintegrate Logan.

Funny thing that Torch had the full power of the F4, but I guess that doesn't compare to said, furry midget...

He did though, he traveled extremely fast, like when he went from like planet's distance in a short time.
Taking Torch out to the atmosphere while not even trying to travel.

Actually, he did show something special, like destroying a being that was bigger than a planet. You know... Galactus, the being that eats planets?
Phoenix destroys Xavier, blows back Magneto, lifts a house, and fails to take out said furry mutant.
Wow, I actually fail to see why any feats of Surfer's are even bad in comparison...

Plus, he f*cked up Torch, by just coming into contact with him.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Time to ruin whatever I feel like...

Funny thing that Torch had the full power of the F4, but I guess that doesn't compare to said, furry midget...

And that should be enough to handle SS powers?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Taking Torch out to the atmosphere while not even trying to travel.

Wow, very impressive.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Phoenix destroys Xavier, blows back Magneto, lifts a house, and fails to take out said furry mutant.

Far better than what SS did to Johnny.

And if we take that Phoenix fails to take furry mutant, well SS wasn't also able to disintegrate Doom.

Phoenix get's blasted she dies.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And that should be enough to handle SS powers?

Wow, very impressive.

Far better than what SS did to Johnny.

And if we take that Phoenix fails to take furry mutant, well SS wasn't also able to disintegrate Doom.

I know, terrific, isn't it?

Hardly. Johnny was a tank in that show.

SS shot Doom once, sent him back to his lair, turned him into bubbles, got rid of his scares, all with one weak blast.
He wasn't trying to kill him, just get rid of him, and... he did.
Surprising, I know.

Plus, Surfer destroyed Galactus, a being who was bigger than a planet in that movie?
Que?

Victor was inexperienced, but he hate Fantastic Four so much and couldn't kill them on a whim with SS powers, he didn't kill them at all.

Phoenix was also inexperienced with her powers, completely inexperienced, she still killed everyone on a whim, killed more powerful than anyone on Fantastic 4 team.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
He wasn't trying to kill him, just get rid of him, and... he did.

Than also Phoenix didn't try to kill Logan. She knew that Logan will heal from the wounds she was giving him. Surprising, I know?

In the mansion she knocked him out extremely easily with no effort, so if she would try to kill him in the end, she would have done it.

And since SS didn't show no great speed on Earth in the movie, I really don't see trouble for Phoenix to knock him down from the board.

Then we know what would have happened.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Victor was inexperienced, but he hate Fantastic Four so much and couldn't kill them on a whim with SS powers, he didn't kill them at all.

Edit😛hoenix has human durability she get's blasted and she dies.

Originally posted by Estacado
It's a ****ing movie why would the villain kill the main characters?😐

It's a ****ing movie, why would Phoenix kill Logan, practically the main character in X-Men movies?

She killed Cyclops, he wasn't even in any X-Men movie for long time.
She killed Xavier, well, because she was a true dark villain, against Logan she was clearly holding back, Jean fighting DP.

Because she killed Scott,Prof-X and many others.

Still Phoenix loses because of her human durability.

Originally posted by Estacado
Still Phoenix loses because of her human durability.

I still see Phoenix knocking SS down form the board very easily.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Victor was inexperienced, but he hate Fantastic Four so much and couldn't kill them on a whim with SS powers, he didn't kill them at all.

Phoenix was also inexperienced with her powers, completely inexperienced, she still killed everyone on a whim, killed more powerful than anyone on Fantastic 4 team.

Than also Phoenix didn't try to kill Logan. She knew that Logan will heal from the wounds she was giving him. Surprising, I know?

In the mansion she knocked him out extremely easily with no effort, so if she would try to kill him in the end, she would have done it.

And since SS didn't show no great speed on Earth in the movie, I really don't see trouble for Phoenix to knock him down from the board.

Then we know what would have happened.

The difference here is, that all Surfer wanted to do was send him away, and he did, with added effects.
However, Jeanix was trying to keep Wolverine away from her, and... failed, miserably.

She knocked him out, but in the end she was trying to kill him.
You kind of wonder how she wasn't trying to kill Wolverine, when a bunch of other people farther away, were being disintegrated in about a second.

Keep believing that, but it's also quite pointless, because he still showed way more speed than she did.

The funny thing is, Surfer can go intangible... and did so when Johnny tried that.
I fail to even see her hitting him.
Which is the difference between Surfer, and Doom.

Plus, Surfer killed someone who was bigger than a planet. A being who ate planets.
Acknowledge the fact, or be annoyed, I don't really care, but I will keep saying it.