We know what Galactus is capable from comics, but that is not the case in the movie, although of course in later movies they could show his power as they can show Pheonix power far more than in X3.
Originally posted by norrinradd43
Movie surfer took out galactus single handidly or the big black cloud that was supposed to be Galan
Yes, but Galactus didn't do anything in the movie except being mentioned to eat the planet for energy.
Somone who doesn't know comics, maby he the one won't be impressed with Galactus being destroyed by his own herald. Shouldn't be master so much more powerful than his herald.
And Phoenix was also mentioned to have limitless power.
Originally posted by Xplosive
We know what Galactus is capable from comics, but that is not the case in the movie, although of course in later movies they could show his power as they can show Pheonix power far more than in X3.Yes, but Galactus didn't do anything in the movie except being mentioned to eat the planet for energy.
Somone who doesn't know comics, maby he the one won't be impressed with Galactus being destroyed by his own herald. Shouldn't be master so much more powerful than his herald.
And Phoenix was also mentioned to have limitless power.
Till we see Jean (Phoenix) tops that feat, or can counter/defend an energy release of that magnitude she goes down in this match up..
Originally posted by Roldz
Doesnt that tell you somethin about the level of power the char. possess? Planet Eater.. And SS defeated it..Till we see Jean (Phoenix) tops that feat, or can counter/defend an energy release of that magnitude she goes down in this match up..
Doesn't it tell you when it is said limitless power.
Anyway, we know what was Xavier capable of in X2 with cerebro.
To link with all living beings on the planet and to kill them.
Xavier was defeated and killed fairly easily by completely inexperienced Phoenix.
Xavier knew what was Phoenix power and scared of her.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Because Wolverine was ready for her the second time around... maybe?
Now tell me, do you really believe that? 馃檪
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Why wouldn't I?
It's not like she has showings to negate this, plus she caught him by surprise in the mansion.The second time, Wolverine was ready to fight/take her down.
No, really you think that?
Logan who hasn't shown in movie anything to be stronger than world strongest man in real world.
Logan who even in comics we know of isn't stronger on paper than world strongest man in real world physically and if he is, he is insignificantly stronger, movie Logan wasn't even that.
And now Jean who was easily lifting the house and all inside the house, she didn't even see them, you know, Logan was in and Juggernaut and she blew them out of the house with extreme ease.
Then Logan who was running towards Juggernaut was immediately put down. Jean who was 6 years old was lifting cars with completely no effort.
Then Phoenix who was destroying the island, lifting all that water in the end and you will say because he was prepared he was able to hold on the ground and Phoenix wasn't able to lift him off the ground?
Come on.
Originally posted by XplosiveWhat the f*ck does being strong have to do with anything?
No, really you think that?
Logan who hasn't shown in movie anything to be stronger than world strongest man in real world.
Logan who even in comics we know of isn't stronger on paper than world strongest man in real world physically and if he is, he is insignificantly stronger, movie Logan wasn't even that.And now Jean who was easily lifting the house and all inside the house, she didn't even see them, you know, Logan was in and Juggernaut and she blew them out of the house with extreme ease.
Then Logan who was running towards Juggernaut was immediately put down. Jean who was 6 years old was lifting cars with completely no effort.
Then Phoenix who was destroying the island, lifting all that water in the end and you will say because he was prepared he was able to hold on the ground and Phoenix wasn't able to lift him off the ground?
Come on.
OMG, she lifted Wolverine? Like, does she want a metal or something? She also didn't try to lift Wolverine, she tried to force him back, and disintegrate him, which didn't work.
The first time, she forced him back, because he wasn't prepared.
I never said anything about lifting him, which I'm also not trying to refute, because she would be able to accomplish this.
Plus, if she can't force back Wolverine (while she's also somehow going to separate Surfer from his board)... and her ultimate feat is lifting things...
How exactly does this help her against Surfer?
Is she going to lift him? Is her forcing back Juggernaut, who got knocked out by running into a wall, going to help her?
Face it, she has no feats to speak of, that would even remotely help her in this fight.
Actually, I would like to see why people think she can separate Surfer from his board.
Also, this is a dumb debate, I'll tell you that righ' nah.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What the f*ck does being strong have to do with anything?
Everything, man, everything.
As 6 year old Jean would be able to force him back.
Phoenix only wanted Logan to come to her despite what she was doing to him.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Is she going to lift him? Is her forcing back Juggernaut, who got knocked out by running into a wall, going to help her?
Juggernaut without powers.
I understand why you chose SS to win, but to say he Logan prepared and that is why Phoenix couldn't force him back is ridiculous.
Because if she would want to keep him away from her, she would've done it.
Originally posted by XplosiveAs she hasn't proved...
Everything, man, everything.
As 6 year old Jean would be able to force him back.
Phoenix only wanted Logan to come to her despite what she was doing to him.Juggernaut without powers.
I understand why you chose SS to win, but to say he Logan prepared and that is why Phoenix couldn't force him back is ridiculous.
Because if she would want to keep him away from her, she would've done it.
Well, that's what the movie showed... she catches him by surprise *gasp*, he goes flying.
Wolverine is ready *gasp* he doesn't go anywhere, but forward.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Why wouldn't I?
It's not like she has showings to negate this, plus she caught him by surprise in the mansion.The second time, Wolverine was ready to fight/take her down.
you can not be this stupid no way. your just messing with him right. you can not be that big of a fanboy.
wolverine in the movie was human level strength and his skin was just like human skin. phonix disinigrated everyone else at once but only disengrated a tiny bit of wolverine at a time so he wouldn't get really hurt. she was holding back like nothing else.
phoenix disingrated the black bird with as much strain as she did just normal people (which is none) what she was doing was taking them apart a a subatomic level. surfer would be vanrable to this. However surfer can do the same thing. I personaly thing surfer would get her before she could get him. oh also phoenix does have the option of puting up a tk sheild (which i do not think would be breached by surfers energy beam easly) however surfer showed that he can get beyound sheilds.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
As she hasn't proved...Well, that's what the movie showed... she catches him by surprise *gasp*, he goes flying.
Wolverine is ready *gasp* he doesn't go anywhere, but forward.
she lifted hundreds of tons of water and every car in her on her block when she was ten and she couldn't keep a hair man from getting to her. please dude she showed in spades that she could.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What the f*ck does being strong have to do with anything?
Plus, he fought a guy who lifted up a tree...OMG, she lifted Wolverine? Like, does she want a metal or something? She also didn't try to lift Wolverine, she tried to force him back, and disintegrate him, which didn't work.
The first time, she forced him back, because he wasn't prepared.
I never said anything about lifting him, which I'm also not trying to refute, because she would be able to accomplish this.Plus, if she can't force back Wolverine (while she's also somehow going to separate Surfer from his board)... and her ultimate feat is lifting things...
How exactly does this help her against Surfer?Is she going to lift him? Is her forcing back Juggernaut, who got knocked out by running into a wall, going to help her?
Face it, she has no feats to speak of, that would even remotely help her in this fight.
Actually, I would like to see why people think she can separate Surfer from his board.
Also, this is a dumb debate, I'll tell you that righ' nah.
this is the worst debating i've seen on this forum and that's saying a lot. sersously she can lift tons upon tons of maters and dissemble things on a molecular level but can't force back someone with peak human (which is debateble in the movie version that he's even that strong) strength. Jean mentioned several times that she wanted to die before that. wolverine was getting though to her on a psycologcal level not by over powering her.
i've already stated that surfer would win because he's quickest on a draw but you and others are depowering her and are misleading with your skewed interprtation of the facts.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
movie phoenix destroyed xavier and almost killed wolverine.movie surfer destroyed (apparently) Galactus.
The effects on the environment of the surfer flying through the air equal the effects on the environment of jean concentrating and focusing her energy.
Nuff said.
Famke FTW 馃槃