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illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

The Worlogog is a standard New God weapon?

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No that is the most pitiful showing of a diety. But eventhe spectre wasn't knocked out.

True but Batman making the Spectre bleed with one kick is preposterous enough.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by celestialdemon
True but Batman making the Spectre bleed with one kick is preposterous enough.

Aren't you forgetting one very important detail?

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by darthgoober
What were you talking about then?

You asked if they could use the genesis box to remake the universe in order for Darkseid not to be a threat.

1) It would be a VERY anti-climactic event for comic book readers to see Darkseid being taken out that way.

2) They would also end up destroying themselves.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by illadelph12
The Worlogog is a standard New God weapon?

Well, technically it was in their hands from the start..... 😖hifty:

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Originally posted by batdude123
Aren't you forgetting one very important detail?

That it's Batman? 😆

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Originally posted by celestialdemon
That it's Batman? 😆

BINGO! ermmhappy

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
1) It would be a VERY anti-climactic event for comic book readers to see Darkseid being taken out that way.

That's why I said it sounded very much like a plot device that they're probably as likely to use as Big G and company are to use the UN.

Originally posted by batdude123
2) They would also end up destroying themselves.

Why would they all be destroyed if all they did was remove DS from the picture?

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's why I said it sounded very much like a plot device that they're probably as likely to use as Big G and company are to use the UN.

Pretty much. I'm simply pointing out all of the impressive tech the New Gods have. They have plenty of genesis boxes (mother boxes), plus the Warlogog, etc.

The difference is, mother/genesis boxes can do a lot more than that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why would they all be destroyed if all they did was remove DS from the picture?

Because no matter what the result is, the universe would still have to be destroyed in order for another one to take it's place.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Pretty much. I'm simply pointing out all of the impressive tech the New Gods have. They have plenty of genesis boxes (mother boxes), plus the Warlogog, etc.
The difference is, mother/genesis boxes can do a lot more than that.

Well Mother Boxes I can totally use because they pull those things out fairly often, but it's pointless debating as to who wins in a match between the UN and the Genesis Boxes so I'm not really taking those into consideration. But the thing is, I'm pretty sure that the New Gods had Mother Boxes way back when Yuga tore through them and it obviously didn't do any good. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to make a call on the fight, I'm just pointing out that if Yuga did it solo, Big G and every herald he ever created have a pretty good shot at taking this.

Originally posted by batdude123
Because no matter what the result is, the universe would still have to be destroyed in order for another one to take it's place.

But if they're recreated along with the Universe then why would they give a shit?

Utrigita Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Pretty much. I'm simply pointing out all of the impressive tech the New Gods have. They have plenty of genesis boxes (mother boxes), plus the Warlogog, etc.
The difference is, mother/genesis boxes can do a lot more than that.
Because no matter what the result is, the universe would still have to be destroyed in order for another one to take it's place.

To use the Worlogog they must have the chair of morbies, what are the chances that he will even get involved???

P.S. just stealing your scan DG and posting it in the Galactus respect thread hopes its okay with you.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Utrigita
To use the Worlogog they must have the chair of morbies, what are the chances that he will even get involved???
P.S. just stealing your scan DG and posting it in the Galactus respect thread hopes its okay with you.

That's fine with me, I meant to do that a while back when I first came across it and forgot.

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Originally posted by darthgoober
Well Mother Boxes I can totally use because they pull those things out fairly often, but it's pointless debating as to who wins in a match between the UN and the Genesis Boxes so I'm not really taking those into consideration. But the thing is, I'm pretty sure that the New Gods had Mother Boxes way back when Yuga tore through them and it obviously didn't do any good. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to make a call on the fight, I'm just pointing out that if Yuga did it solo, Big G and every herald he ever created have a pretty good shot at taking this.

Genesis box = Mother box. They're the same thing, only worded in a different fashion.

When Yuga Khan attacked, I don't recall them ever using any mother boxes to defend themselves. You can't really use that instance in an attempt at trying to deface the value of power of New Genesis technology.

Originally posted by darthgoober
But if they're recreated along with the Universe then why would they give a shit?

1) Because they don't like abusing their power

2) It's too big of a responsibility for anyone. The universe unravels under its own natural course. Changing that outcome can be catastrophic. Who are they to judge what is right, and what is wrong?

Utrigita Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's fine with me, I meant to do that a while back when I first came across it and forgot.

Thanks

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by Utrigita
To use the Worlogog they must have the chair of morbies, what are the chances that he will even get involved???

Um... no. They really don't. There have been plenty of instances where it has been used without being on the morbius chair.

Utrigita Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Um... no. They really don't. There have been plenty of instances where it has been used without being on the morbius chair.

Okay cool, as said earlier doesn't know a lot about DC.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Genesis box = Mother box. They're the same thing, only worded in a different fashion.
When Yuga Khan attacked, I don't recall them ever using any mother boxes to defend themselves. You can't really use that instance in an attempt at trying to deface the value of power of New Genesis technology.

Then Yuga's feat was PIS do to their not fighting back to the best of their ability and shouldn't be taken at face value in determining how powerful he is?

Originally posted by batdude123

1) Because they don't like abusing their power
2) It's too big of a responsibility for anyone. The universe unravels under its own natural course. Changing that outcome can be catastrophic. Who are they to judge what is right, and what is wrong?

So their doing so here would seem to be out of character huh?

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by darthgoober
Then Yuga's feat was PIS do to their not fighting back to the best of their ability and shouldn't be taken into consideration?

Power vs. New God power... Yuga's a monster.

Yuga vs. New Genesian tech? Eh... different story.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So their doing so here would seem to be out of character huh?

Them using it to recreate the universe? You bet.

Them using it in an efficient and logically powerful way? Not at all. It is afterall a DIRECT power link to the Source.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by batdude123
Power vs. New God power... Yuga's a monster.
Yuga vs. New Genesian tech? Eh... different story.

So then you'd give it to Big G and company barring that tech?

Originally posted by batdude123

Them using it to recreate the universe? You bet.
Them using it in an efficient and logically powerful way? Not at all. It is afterall a DIRECT power link to the Source.

Ok like what? I know they can do a variety of things, so what are the New Gods likely to do with them here?

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well Mother Boxes I can totally use because they pull those things out fairly often, but it's pointless debating as to who wins in a match between the UN and the Genesis Boxes so I'm not really taking those into consideration. But the thing is, I'm pretty sure that the New Gods had Mother Boxes way back when Yuga tore through them and it obviously didn't do any good. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to make a call on the fight, I'm just pointing out that if Yuga did it solo, Big G and every herald he ever created have a pretty good shot at taking this.
But if they're recreated along with the Universe then why would they give a shit?

Regarding the first paragraph: Yuga Khan doing the damage he did was more due to his connection to the source and his being able to cut it off rather than his insane power. Plus, the event that freed Yuga Khan was ****ing up the Source IIRC. They had to put him back in the wall to fix the Source. 2nd: Yuga was protected by a plot device partially. Darkseid was supposedly the only guy who could take him out, but he was bound by another plot device to not be able to fight, the father-son clause.

Plus: There's one more possibility. That Yuga Khan may be more powerful than Galactus. IIRC, he devoured a solar system or a galaxy to recharge his powers after being on the Source Wall.