galactus and all his creations vs all new gods

Originally posted by darthgoober
So then you'd give it to Big G and company barring that tech?

Possibly. Yes.

But I can't remember. Was Yuga fighting both Apokalips and New Genesis?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok like what? I know they can do a variety of things, so what are the New Gods likely to do with them here?

It'd be facetious of me to list ways.

Whatever they can think of, they can do it. They could use it to directly talk to the Source so that he or "it" could empower them, or any number of things.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Regarding the first paragraph: Yuga Khan doing the damage he did was more due to his connection to the source and his being able to cut it off rather than his insane power. Plus, the event that freed Yuga Khan was ****ing up the Source IIRC. They had to put him back in the wall to fix the Source. 2nd: Yuga was protected by a plot device partially. Darkseid was supposedly the only guy who could take him out, but he was bound by another plot device to not be able to fight, the father-son clause.

Originally posted by batdude123
Possibly. Yes.

But I can't remember. Was Yuga fighting both Apokalips and New Genesis?

It'd be facetious of me to list ways.

Whatever they can think of, they can do it. They could use it to directly talk to the Source so that he or "it" could empower them, or any number of things.

As I recall, Yuga was fighting both, and he shut down the new god's connection to the source. A feat which both demonstrates insane power, and one I think Galactus cannot duplicate.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As I recall, Yuga was fighting both, and he shut down the new god's connection to the source. A feat which both demonstrates insane power, and one I think Galactus cannot duplicate.

More than likely not, considering Galactus has absolutely no connection whatsoever to DC's Source.

You know, I think that feat was unprecedented. Nobody has ever been able to shut off a new god's connection to the source, let alone all of them. hmm

Seriously, I can't think of any other time something like that happened.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As I recall, Yuga was fighting both, and he shut down the new god's connection to the source. A feat which both demonstrates insane power, and one I think Galactus cannot duplicate.

Originally posted by batdude123
More than likely not, considering Galactus has absolutely no connection whatsoever to DC's Source.

Originally posted by darthgoober
In that case, I think people should stop using the whole "He single handedly took down the New Gods" as proof of his power since it seems to have happened via plot device. Guys like nvr have been acting like it was just him beating the shit out of everyone and not having to much trouble with it. But like I said I'm not making a call here, I was just pointing out the double standard that was in effect.

That in and of itself is a testament to his power, however.

Originally posted by batdude123
That in and of itself is a testament to his power, however.

I thought the new gods would win by sheer numbers when I first came to the thread but after reading most of it I'm convinced Galactus' crew wins.

One question, wouldn't it be possible for Galactus and company to attack the New Gods with Radion to gain a significant edge in this fight?

Originally posted by darthgoober
One question, wouldn't it be possible for Galactus and company to attack the New Gods with Radion to gain a significant edge in this fight?

Radion?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Radion?

Look at the last part of the Powers and Abilities section...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Gods

Originally posted by darthgoober
Not sure what the stuff is. I was researching the New Gods and I found out it supposed to be some weird substance that the New Gods are particularly vulnerable to.

Look at the last part of the Powers and Abilities section...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Gods

Really vague and I doubt Galactus would know about it or how to make it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Really vague and I doubt Galactus would know about it or how to make it.

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.

....I'm pretty sure that a significant number of New Gods know that they're vulnerable to Radion.

As to whether Big G and company could create it...I'm not sure. That's why I'm trying to get some info on Radion that way I can see how likely it would be. Unless it's mystic or something I don't see why they couldn't. Cosmic Awareness could be used to determine it's properties, and Big G could probably use transmutation to come up with quite a bit of it now that I think about it.

well, if creating top tier heralds who can matter transmute is but just a portion of his power, then...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Oh they'd DEFINITELY know about it...

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. [B]A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.

....I'm pretty sure that a significant number of New Gods know that they're vulnerable to Radion.

As to whether Big G and company could create it...I'm not sure. That's why I'm trying to get some info on Radion that way I can see how likely it would be. Unless it's mystic or something I don't see why they couldn't. Cosmic Awareness could be used to determine it's properties, and Big G could probably use transmutation to come up with quite a bit of it now that I think about it. [/B]

It's not well known. Only New Gods know about it. Thus, Galactus would not get the knowledge. Because, the new gods are almost unknown on Earth in the DCU and the Radion weakness is definitely not known outside the 4th world.

Originally posted by darthgoober
In that case, I think people should stop using the whole "He single handedly took down the New Gods" as proof of his power since it seems to have happened via plot device. Guys like nvr have been acting like it was just him beating the shit out of everyone and not having to much trouble with it. But like I said I'm not making a call here, I was just pointing out the double standard that was in effect.

What the **** are you talking about? You never even see me mentioning Yuga's feats. please dont' bring me in shit and don't know what the **** you are talking about. Quanchi is the one who brings up yuga all the time.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's not well known. Only New Gods know about it. Thus, Galactus would not get the knowledge. Because, the new gods are almost unknown on Earth in the DCU and the Radion weakness is definitely not known outside the 4th world.

Radion isn't something that can be reproduced or replicated and if I remember correctly, it's no longer in continuity.

It's a biological weakness, akin to Superman and K-nite. CA might be enough to pick it up.

There's been alot of silly shit said in this thread while i was gone.

One - Tyrant at his original level showed more raw power than Darkseid ever has.

Two - I'm not sure i'd blink if Tyrant shot the OE back into the eyes of Darky, ala Apok Now. He's always been above the top tier in Marvel.

Three - The Worloggog is a item of great power made by Metron, but it's not synomous with the New Gods the way the UN is with Galactus.

The person i most associate with the Worly is Hourman, in his different forms.

And bring up the low showings of Galactus all you want.

He's got a built in protection clause, ala the great hunger weakens me.

He's also shown some decent displays of power while hungry, like vaping three star systems while starving, and iirc, when he fought Mephisto for the Soul of Surfer, he was hungry as well.

I repeat, the New God fodder ranks would be wiped in a single area blast, leaving Orion and a few key others to pick up the slack.

For those who bring up the Ares Godwave TECH feat from Darkseid...

If Darkseid gets his tech, Galactus should get his imo.

FatherBox vs UN.
Genesis Box vs UN.

Lol at the thought that most New Gods are clearly above Gladiator.

Gladiator would rip Lightray a new butthole, along with many other New Gods.

Unless the NG get the Worloggog(which i personally link to the Hourmen), i just see the UN as the highest power in this thread, and while the Genesisbox is powerful, multiversal vs universal always goes to multiversal.

To the threadstarter....what are the power levels of Tyrant?
Original level or depowered?

Galactus? Hungry, full?

Worloggog allowed?

And Apok and New Genesis are galactic in size.

The scan that shows Superman looking and listening to the planets burn don't prove the New Gods are universal in power.

All relative chap, unless you think Superman is universal in power now?

Originally posted by UniOmni
It's a biological weakness, akin to Superman and K-nite. CA might be enough to pick it up.

There's been alot of silly shit said in this thread while i was gone.

One - Tyrant at his original level showed more raw power than Darkseid ever has.

Two - I'm not sure i'd blink if Tyrant shot the OE back into the eyes of Darky, ala Apok Now. He's always been above the top tier in Marvel.

Three - The Worloggog is a item of great power made by Metron, but it's not synomous with the New Gods the way the UN is with Galactus.

The person i most associate with the Worly is Hourman, in his different forms.

And bring up the low showings of Galactus all you want.

He's got a built in protection clause, ala the great hunger weakens me.

He's also shown some decent displays of power while hungry, like vaping three star systems while starving, and iirc, when he fought Mephisto for the Soul of Surfer, he was hungry as well.

I repeat, the New God fodder ranks would be wiped in a single area blast, leaving Orion and a few key others to pick up the slack.

For those who bring up the Ares Godwave TECH feat from Darkseid...

If Darkseid gets his tech, Galactus should get his imo.

FatherBox vs UN.
Genesis Box vs UN.

Lol at the thought that most New Gods are clearly above Gladiator.

Gladiator would rip Lightray a new butthole, along with many other New Gods.

Unless the NG get the Worloggog(which i personally link to the Hourmen), i just see the UN as the highest power in this thread, and while the Genesisbox is powerful, multiversal vs universal always goes to multiversal.

To the threadstarter....what are the power levels of Tyrant?
Original level or depowered?

Galactus? Hungry, full?

Worloggog allowed?

And Apok and New Genesis are galactic in size.

The scan that shows Superman looking and listening to the planets burn don't prove the New Gods are universal in power.

All relative chap, unless you think Superman is universal in power now?