galactus and all his creations vs all new gods

Started by darthgoober41 pages

Originally posted by illadelph12
If the radiation Radion emits is a part of the EM spectrum (which it naturally would be unless it was mystical in nature), Galactus should have access to it. Though there isn't a Marvel equivalent to the substance, the radiation wavelength should logically be present in any universe since it's within the EM.

That's right. Since this battle takes place in a either a neutral universe or the DC universe, no matter what that particular wavelength will be present.

Originally posted by starking
That's what I'm trying to point out. The article I posted earlier, stated that Radion is hard to come by. Do you really think that a advanced civilization, such as the New Gods, would have a problem, solving such a formula? That's why the ingredient, element x, is in question. If element x can power the oe, then I would difintely say, that it's more than a simple substance.

I didn't say it was a simple substance, I said that as long as it relied on an actual scientific formula it shouldn't be outside of Big G's abilities to create it. There are a shitload of people with trasmutation powers in Marvel, but the fact that everybody's shit isn't made out of adamantium doesn't mean that transmuters can't create it. It's called PIS, because what company wants EVERY hero equipped with what's supposed to be a rare substance.

You know what I always found funny about this board:

Comics, by nature and premise, are completely plot driven fiction. Yet people here will always pull out the PIS card. It's a paradox. How can a comic feat be plot induced stupidity when the whole genre is plot driven? By that logic everything is PIS (depending on perspective).

Originally posted by illadelph12
You know what I always found funny about this board:

Comics, by nature and premise, are completely plot driven fiction. Yet people here will always pull out the PIS card. It's a paradox. How can a comic feat be plot induced stupidity when the whole genre is plot driven? By that logic everything is PIS (depending on perspective).

Because sometimes, the plots are retarded.

Originally posted by illadelph12
You know what I always found funny about this board:

Comics, by nature and premise, are completely plot driven fiction. Yet people here will always pull out the PIS card. It's a paradox. How can a comic feat be plot induced stupidity when the whole genre is plot driven?

Because there are aspects of characters that get established over time.

PIS just takes out the extreme outliers in that history. If bullets bounces off on Punisher in one issue because the writer somehow forgot that he wasn't invulnerable that would be an extreme outlier to the character and has no real place in a discussion of the character.

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Maybe the P in PIS stands for Perspective or Poster.

It's a work of fiction...

Originally posted by illadelph12
You know what I always found funny about this board:

Comics, by nature and premise, are completely plot driven fiction. Yet people here will always pull out the PIS card. It's a paradox. How can a comic feat be plot induced stupidity when the whole genre is plot driven? By that logic everything is PIS (depending on perspective).


I don't mean that any particular feat is PIS, the plot induced stupidity I'm referring to is the Avengers Mansion not being made out of pure adamantium when they have someone like Sersi on the team.

Most of the time when people talk about feats being PIS, it's actually closer to SMvF. But PIS is easier to type then SMvF so maybe that's why they started getting interchanged.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because there are aspects of characters that get established over time.

PIS just takes out the extreme outliers in that history. If bullets bounces off on Punisher in one issue because the writer somehow forgot that he wasn't invulnerable that would be an extreme outlier to the character and has no real place in a discussion of the character.

But isn't that also assuming that everything is set in stone when it's obviously not?

All it takes is a new writer and a new take.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't mean that any particular feat is PIS, the plot induced stupidity I'm referring to is the Avengers Mansion not being made out of pure adamantium when they have someone like Sersi on the team.

Most of the time when people talk about feats being PIS, it's actually closer to SMvF. But PIS is easier to type then SMvF so maybe that's why they started getting interchanged.

I'm speaking generally Goob.

I've always found it...

...convenient.

Originally posted by illadelph12
But isn't that also assuming that everything is set in stone when it's obviously not?

All it takes is a new writer and a new take.

If it becomes part of the character then it does count. PIS is about single isolated instances.

If, to extend the metaphor, Punisher didn't just stop bullets in that one issue but continued doing it for a long time then that would obviously cease to be PIS.

So why don't we call it one-shots?

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm speaking generally Goob.

I've always found it...

...convenient.


Is the phrase convenient, yes. Abused, HELL YES. But the concept of PIS is the only defense we have for things like Surfer not draining Hulk of Gamma Radiation, and Supes not blitzing half his Rogue's Gallery, so I sort of look upon it as a necessary evil.

Originally posted by illadelph12
So why don't we call it one-shots?

If there was a way to freezeb the 🤨 smiley in the first position I would use it here.

But to be less of an ass I'll tell you that it is in fact the result of tradition.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Is the phrase convenient, yes. Abused, HELL YES. But the concept of PIS is the only defense we have for things like Surfer not draining Hulk of Gamma Radiation, and Supes not blitzing half his Rogue's Gallery, so I sort of look upon it as a necessary evil.

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Agreed.

Sadly, but agreed.

It's just that in reading the arguments that happen here it gets used far to often when a fan simply doesn't like that an event took place, even if there was a precedent.

It's mind boggling.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If there was a way to freezeb the 🤨 smiley in the first position I would use it here.

But to be less of an ass I'll tell you that it is in fact the result of tradition.

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I'm just speaking on the paradox of calling a plot "plot driven stupidity". Everything that happens in comics is based on a plot and plot driven.

It's just one of the quirks of posting here, that's all.

Originally posted by illadelph12
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I'm just speaking on the paradox of calling a plot "plot driven stupidity". Everything that happens in comics is based on a plot and plot driven.

It's just one of the quirks of posting here, that's all.

😬 There's nothing wrong with PIS as a concept. It just gets hugely over used.

The other good use for it is preventing people from obsessing over one high or low feat that a character has.

Originally posted by illadelph12
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Agreed.

Sadly, but agreed.

It's just that in reading the arguments that happen here it gets used far to often when a fan simply doesn't like that an event took place, even if there was a precedent.

It's mind boggling


That's why I've stopped pushing the concept of PIS, and I focus more upon the overall average. It's a lot easier to convince someone that the high end should be weighed against the low end to establish a comfortable(and more accurate) medium then it is to convince someone to completely throw out a BS feat from their favorite character.

Originally posted by starking
That's what I'm trying to point out. The article I posted earlier, stated that Radion is hard to come by. Do you really think that a advanced civilization, such as the New Gods, would have a problem, solving such a formula? That's why the ingredient, element x, is in question. If element x can power the oe, then I would difintely say, that it's more than a simple substance.

I've got to clear one thing up. Element X powers Metron's chair. It does not power the OE.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I never do. And then someone comes along sooner or later and post it. I prefer it that way. that way when people call me nvrhadaclue, Like when I said that krona didn't create the multiverse and they said I was clueless, Some months later, someone posted the actuality of what I said. It makes me feel creamy inside when people eat thier words. 😛
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It makes me feel creamy inside when people eat thier words. 😛
I think I notice more innuendo at night...