Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Of the substance's existance . . .Do you have some examples of matter transmuters making complex substances based only on the name and function.
once...
when surfer was human, he once transmuted coins(i think) in gold to pay a bartender(i think)...
he was laughing when he did that...simple...
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Do you have some examples of matter transmuters making complex substances based only on the name and function.
Sand
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_097_18.jpg
Gold
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_129_16.jpg
And how much do you think he knows about the specific function of highly advanced weaponry and teleportation systems...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_005_21.jpg
What about architecture(plenty of complex substances)...
House
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_08.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_09.jpg
City
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_74.jpg
What about intergalactic spaceships...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_77.jpg
Using Cosmic Awareness and transmutation in conjunction, there's very little that Galactus's heralds can't create(let alone Big G himself).
Originally posted by starking
Radion: Orion and all of the New Gods are vulnerable to a substance called Radion. It source is unknown and its effects are toxic only in sustained amounts or after explosive exposure. The average New God can be slain by an application of Radion from a Radion blaster or bomb. More advanced beings such as Orion, protected by their mother box, armor and sheer toughness, have been known to take two hits and survive. Radion, must be hard to come by, because if it was not, Darkseid would obviously equip more of his troops with it. Perhaps it requires the mysterious Element X to create it.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you really think that Surfer knows the molecular make up of sand or gold...Sand
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_097_18.jpgGold
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_129_16.jpgAnd how much do you think he knows about the specific function of highly advanced weaponry and teleportation systems...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_005_21.jpgWhat about architecture(plenty of complex substances)...
House
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_08.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_09.jpgCity
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_74.jpgWhat about intergalactic spaceships...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_77.jpgUsing Cosmic Awareness and transmutation in conjunction, there's very little that Galactus's heralds can't create(let alone Big G himself).
He's standing right next to the stuff. CA tells him exactly what it is. I don't doubt that he can create just about any substance in Marvel (because it's around for his CS to find) but he'll know basicly nothing about Radion unless he can find some.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you really think that Surfer knows the molecular make up of sand or gold...Sand
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_097_18.jpgGold
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_129_16.jpgAnd how much do you think he knows about the specific function of highly advanced weaponry and teleportation systems...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/silver_surfer_1987_005_21.jpgWhat about architecture(plenty of complex substances)...
House
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_08.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1987_002_09.jpgCity
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_74.jpgWhat about intergalactic spaceships...
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_77.jpgUsing Cosmic Awareness and transmutation in conjunction, there's very little that Galactus's heralds can't create(let alone Big G himself).
indeed...
there was also an incarnation of the soul gem when it possesed the power of matter transmutation...
i'm too lazy to check it up though...
i think it was during warlock's stint in counter-earth though...
great job goober...
Originally posted by darthgooberThere's the possibility, that it requires the element X, something that powers the Oe. I doubt Galactus, could replicate it.
What's your point? Just because a substance is rare doesn't mean that it can't be created by someone with transmutation who uses cosmic awareness to find out the details on it. It's not like they need a sample of it.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He's standing right next to the stuff. CA tells him exactly what it is. I don't doubt that he can create just about any substance in Marvel (because it's around for his CS to find) but he'll know basicly nothing about Radion unless he can find some.
plus forum rules stipulate that they have knowledge of it...
also, it doesn't mean that you need to have CA to transmute matter...
the eternals aside from Thanos, for example, do not posses CA...
Originally posted by darthgoober
What's your point? Just because a substance is rare doesn't mean that it can't be created by someone with transmutation who uses cosmic awareness to find out the details on it. It's not like they need a sample of it.
OK I get what you're suggesting. He'll use CA to find out everything about Radion (however if Nvr is right and it no longer exists that won't matter)
Good plan. I can't believe you came up with it 😬
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He's standing right next to the stuff. CA tells him exactly what it is. I don't doubt that he can create just about any substance in Marvel (because it's around for his CS to find) but he'll know basicly nothing about Radion unless he can find some.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
OK I get what you're suggesting. He'll use CA to find out everything about Radion (however if Nvr is right and it no longer exists that won't matter)Good plan. I can't believe you came up with it 😬
And I have LOTS of good plans, you shouldn't be THAT suprised.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually If you Think Gladiator can really beat light ray, you need to rethink that. Superman says that anything that is able to hurt light ray is nothing to be thought of lightly and should be taken very seriously. Seriously, Lightray >>Gladiator. Lightray is just a loving New God and not violent. And if you think Galactus can destroy the new Gods in one blast, all I have to say is a barrier thrown up by Takion and Stayne is all they need. The Worlogog has always belonged to the New Gods. It used to be called the philosopher's stone. And It could remake reality. Hour man used it for time purposes. It can also be used to reset the universe. And In the 4th world, it's power would be multiversal becuz the New gods sit above all the other universes and super sets the smaller ones. What proves the New Gods are above universal in power is the description Orion gives about the Universes from the eyes of the new Gods.
What has Lightray done that makes you think he couldn't be beaten by Gladiator?
And big ups mean nothing, if history contradicts it.
Who currently has the Worly Nvr? I know what it can and has done.
And i repeat, the New Gods standing in comparison to the rest of the DCU proper, is merely a mirror of the situation of the microverse in relation to the 616 universe in Marvel.
Is Spiderman above pocket dimensions and universes?
You depend on hyperbole to support your many weak stances, and alot of people see it for what it is:weak.
Threadstarter - what are the levels of Galactus and Tyrant in this match?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Unless it's been rectoned out of DC then it won't matter if there's anymore around. Surfer and kind can scan the New Gods for weaknesses and recreate the substance because they still have the vulnerability built into them even if it's not around anymore.
Because thats a power he uses constantly 😐
Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course not, but seeing as how they'd be going to war and would be outnumbered a million to one, it seems like something they'd do.
The universe was in danger during Annihilation and he didn't try that.
Heralds rarely seem to use CA for much more than finding places and mild precog in reaction times srug
