Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wouldn't the reality Gem be boosted to insane lvls in proteus's control? or vice versa? his stuff would be permanant. Wanda would lose IMO. The Gem makes this not much of a match.
I agree. Doesn't the gem work on an omniversal scale? Thanos had no reality warping powers, then he got the gem and then he had über zomfg awesome reality warping powers 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wouldn't the reality Gem be boosted to insane lvls in proteus's control? or vice versa? his stuff would be permanant. Wanda would lose IMO. The Gem makes this not much of a match.
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Wanda recreated Proteus clueless.
The Reality Gem wouldn't boost a Planetary Warper into a Universal one.
Read Comics.
Wanda had absolute control over the entire 616 Reality.
Wanda FTW in an embarrasing stomp.
Originally posted by Mr Master
😆Wanda recreated Proteus clueless.
The Reality Gem wouldn't boost a Planetary Warper into a Universal one.
Read Comics.
Wanda had absolute control over the entire 616 Reality.
Wanda FTW in an embarrasing stomp.
Doesn't matter. Once He got the reality gem, he'd be boosted and one doesn't need to be universal in power. Wanda could control the entire 616 and not be able to take over odins part becuz he's absolute in his lil corner. Kinda the same thing with Merlin and MJJ. Try again. you fail.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doesn't matter. Once He got the reality gem, he'd be boosted and one doesn't need to be universal in power. Wanda could control the entire 616 and not be able to take over odins part becuz he's absolute in his lil corner. Kinda the same thing with Merlin and MJJ. Try again. you fail.
nuts
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You do that a lot when I spank you with superior logic. It's your forte. you do it to anyone who gets you in a corner and you can't argue your way out. i understand. It's ok boo. You can't win all of the time.
You talk so much shit dude it's unbearable.
I throw in a smilie cause you're a child, and must be dealt with acccordingly.
Only a bonehead such as yourself, would think that a Planetary Warper can defeat a Universal one, that's a JOKE, and doesn't deserve a serious response.
Since you know zilch about the Reality Gem,
you posted more dumb shit stating the Reality Gem would make Proteus supreme in a section of the Universe, 😂 how can I not just laugh or throw in a smilie on such a dumb shit of a post.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Proteus has never even been a planetary reality warper as far as I can remember, his abilities were always localized and he lacked the ability to affect Longshot. 😐The Scarlet Witch remade -616 into -58163, then turned it back again. No more Proteus.
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Now see clueless,
learn from debaters that know what the heck they're talking about,
from debaters that actually Read a Comic Book before coming in here and posting bull shit
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Depends on which Wanda it is.
Don't matter, there is no such thing as a wanda with the chaos wave, and after that she created a reality that was seen through by layla miller, meaning it was an illusion, she said no more mutants and then suddenly a lot of mutants lost their powers, but they were not lost or uncreated the energy took it upon itself to create the collective, she has so much power that she managed to depower herself. A reality warper would have one of the easiest times using the reality gem, since they already know what the gem can do, it won't be a new power for proteus it will be a boost to what he can already do. If wanda did create and sustained the chaos wave all proteus has to do is warp reality to create meggan since she stopped it.
Originally posted by LordKaos
Don't matter, there is no such thing as a wanda with the chaos wave, and after that she created a reality that was seen through by layla miller, meaning it was an illusion, she said no more mutants and then suddenly a lot of mutants lost their powers, but they were not lost or uncreated the energy took it upon itself to create the collective, she has so much power that she managed to depower herself. A reality warper would have one of the easiest times using the reality gem, since they already know what the gem can do, it won't be a new power for proteus it will be a boost to what he can already do. If wanda did create and sustained the chaos wave all proteus has to do is warp reality to create meggan since she stopped it.
HOM was not an illusion. She changed reality itself, and she gave lyla miller the power to let people regognise the changed reality. The choas wave came from her. Many comics afterwards support this. Shadow king himself said that a cosmic whim caused cracks in all realities.
Proteus for the easy win
Dont listen to the hype-this wanda that wanda...30 years plus of wanda and in 6 months they use her for their mutant shutoff machine and i am supposed to be impressed...if we were to use the rules of this site it would not be a long enough time to use her WAY over the top reality powers...which she needed xavier for
The thread specifies a defined period of time at which Wanda's powers on panel far surpassed anything Proteus has ever done, and during which she was the one that resurrected him and gave him his powers.
She used Xavier to know people's desires - which was redundant anyway considering during that period she could have just given herself his telepathy.
Quicksilver provided the motivation, being somewhat insane she wasn't particularly focussed.
The underlying power was hers.
Proteus has never been able to warp reality beyond a localized region and his warps have never been permanent with reality refolding itself afterwards. To reiterate again, she was the one who resurrected him and gave the resurrected version its powers. Unless someone has some evidence that possessing the Reality Gem in and of itself would expand his powers to a universal level and of permanence, and that Proteus who has never been particularly bright could even use the gem properly, he loses by a multitude of ways.
And he'd accomplish that how exactly? Longshot's very local and uncontrolled ability to alter probabilities shields him from Proteus' powers. The Scarlet Witch. Altering probabilities.
There's nothing to suggest his localized control would supersede hers. Thus there's nothing to suggest she couldn't just turn his powers off, as she did when she immobilized Magneto or like she did when she removed the mutation from the majority of the mutant population. There's nothing to suggest she couldn't turn his host body into metal destroying him. There's nothing to suggest that what Wanda remade, she can't just unmake - in fact she did this to the reality - and turn Proteus back into nothingness.
The only trump card he has here is the Reality Gem - with nothing from anybody to suggest it would amplify his abilities to the extent required to match her scope of power.
So basically there's what exactly to suggest he'd win? Oh that's right, nothing.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And he'd accomplish that how exactly? Longshot's very local and uncontrolled ability to alter probabilities shields him from Proteus' powers. The Scarlet Witch. Altering probabilities.There's nothing to suggest his localized control would supersede hers. Thus there's nothing to suggest she couldn't just turn his powers off, as she did when she immobilized Magneto or like she did when she removed the mutation from the majority of the mutant population. There's nothing to suggest she couldn't turn his host body into metal destroying him. There's nothing to suggest that what Wanda remade, she can't just unmake - in fact she did this to the reality - and turn Proteus back into nothingness.
The only trump card he has here is the Reality Gem - with nothing from anybody to suggest it would amplify his abilities to the extent required to match her scope of power.
So basically there's what exactly to suggest he'd win? Oh that's right, nothing.
Only the thing called the reality gem
There is everything to suggest the reality gem would give proteus the advantage and then some,lets not belittle the gem so wanda can get a win...alfred with the reality gem with the rules of the site would beat wanda