Thor Discussion

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus96 pages
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'm not sure there's a source published by Marvel that says The End isn't canon... in fact, it's the complete opposite.

Marvel doesn't have to publish a bio that has a little note stating the End isn't cannon. It isn't cannon by it's very definiton like all the other similar stories. Breevort confirmed it wasn't cannon. And he was the actual editor of the book. Satisfied?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Marvel doesn't have to publish a bio that has a little note stating the End isn't cannon. It isn't cannon by it's very definiton like all the other similar stories. Breevort confirmed it wasn't cannon. And he was the actual editor of the book. Satisfied?
Problem is that Marvel has published bios, bios, on panel sources, and whatnot confirming it's canon.

Original intention doesn't write off an apparent retcon.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Problem is that Marvel has published bios, bios, on panel sources, and whatnot confirming it's canon.

Original intention doesn't write off an apparent retcon.

So what if it's mentioned as cannon in bios? They have counted Shuma Gorath's participation in the Marvel games for years now as it's real history. Bios have many mistakes.

Breevort stated that the source book mention was an error by the people who put the book together.

I honestly wouldn't give a shit if it was cannon but it's simply not. Heck, I'd probably benefit me more if it was. Thanos failed to achieve what he set out to do with ultimate power. What a schmuck.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So what if it's mentioned as cannon in bios? They have counted Shuma Gorath's participation in the Marvel games for years now as it's real history. Bios have many mistakes.

Breevort stated that the source book mention was an error by the people who put the book together.

I honestly wouldn't give a shit if it was cannon but it's simply not. Heck, I'd probably benefit me more if it was. Thanos failed to achieve what he set out to do with ultimate power. What a schmuck.

I'm not talking about just bios, it was mentioned in Thanos' mini as well. Breevort is the only one who has said it wasn't, not Jim Starlin, not comics, etc. If it wasn't canon before, it was written into it later.

Because Breevort was pissed about it. Obviously wasn't doing his job.

What, become God, like he did? And then come to a realization with it?

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'm not talking about just bios, it was mentioned in Thanos' mini as well. Breevort is the only one who has said it wasn't, not Jim Starlin, not comics, etc. If it wasn't canon before, it was written into it later.

Because Breevort was pissed about it. Obviously wasn't doing his job.

What, become God, like he did? And then come to a realization with it?

I know about the mention in the Thanos mini but it was explained as using elements from a similar story or some other shit by either Breevort or another Marvel bigshot. I think it might have been Breevort as he also edited the Thanos mini.

Obviously not. Breevort needs to do his job. Editors in general are being useless f*cks currently. That's why we get shit like Rulk.

The end series ended with Thanos saying no one gets to come back from the dead anymore. Do I have to point out how that doesn't hold water in the 616?

The preview of Fraction's starting issue on Thor -#615- is here:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=27572

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Thor: The Rage of Asgard preview is here:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=5940&disp=table

Art's good, and I like the preview, but I haven't liked Milligan's previous take on Thor.

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Avenger's Prime #2 preview:
http://comics.ign.com/articles/110/1109668p1.html

It's always fun to see the Enchantress again. I hope Bendis doesn't devolve her here.

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And the most surprising news? DeFalco confirms his doing a new Thunderstrike me mini!

http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=spidergirl-2010073015263035

That Thor preview read like "Let's do epic dialogue for epic dialogue's sake".

Matt Fraction can be hit or miss, but even with that preview, I think he'll knock it out of the park.

612 was good but I was waiting for a little more action.
613 should be better...

Mephisto's attitude is great in these books...Also good the Desir which they seem invulnerable

anyone can explain Hel's place in Avengers Prime 2?

Spoiler:
wow Thor beat Surtur in "Rage of Thor"

kinda PISy but....👆

Originally posted by Warlord
anyone can explain Hel's place in Avengers Prime 2?

I don't know. Aspects of the Nine Worlds have been spread throughout Earth since Thor awoke and started rebuilding Asgard on Earth. I don't know where Hela's realm has been put.

crylaugh at Thor making Surtur his bitch.

Too bad it's out of continuity, or I'd have made a Black Adam vs Surtur thread or something. awesome

how it is non cannon?
It is just a story from a previous time right?
I mean it's not like "Thor the mighty avenger" series...

Anyway even if it is valid it doesn't mean Thor is Surtur's level, nor the opposite

Originally posted by roughrider
I don't know. Aspects of the Nine Worlds have been spread throughout Earth since Thor awoke and started rebuilding Asgard on Earth. I don't know where Hela's realm has been put.

It doesn't make much sense. They explained just what Hela had been up to during the run of Thor, both before, during, and after Siege. This plot doesn't fit.

sometimes I wonder if the writers even know what their colleagues are writing...meh...

Originally posted by Warlord
sometimes I wonder if the writers even know what their colleagues are writing...meh...

They were pretty good about it for a while. Bendis should've at least taken the time to check out what was going on in Thor beforehand. If I remember right, there are even some continuity issues in a few of the other Avenger books, which is made even worse by the fact that the mistakes are in Bendis' own books.

ah, it happens all the time...in shadowland Punisher is a man again for example...what's wrong with the directors in marvel?

Originally posted by Tron
It doesn't make much sense. They explained just what Hela had been up to during the run of Thor, both before, during, and after Siege. This plot doesn't fit.
It seems that hela's realm is not the same old one. Since Thor recreated Asgard i guess he messed up alot of the reconstruction if you would.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
It seems that hela's realm is not the same old one. Since Thor recreated Asgard i guess he messed up alot of the reconstruction if you would.

Have you been reading Thor? Loki helped Hela set up a new Hel in Mephisto's realm just before Siege. Currently, Thor, Balder, Tyr, and some other Asgardians are there helping Hela with a problem. Like I said, the continuity is jacked up.

Originally posted by Warlord
ah, it happens all the time...in shadowland Punisher is a man again for example...what's wrong with the directors in marvel?

I'm gonna wait and see if they explain that one. It may happen after the whole "FrankenCastle" thing is done with.

I'm glad Thor continuity was brought up. I thought I either lost my mind or had been drinking heavily. haermm2