Cosmic Extant runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by Mr Master
Bull shit

There is no conclusive evidence that the Gems draw their power from the "Big Bang" ...

If they do, it's from the Big Bang that created the Marvel Omniverse.

Adam Warlock wielder of the Soul Gem and former wielder of the Infinity Gauntlet says the gems draw their power from the Big Bang.

The handbooks took up this notion making it the official line.

Your opinion to the contrary means little in light of the most recent, canon, IG interpretation.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Gibberish.

Grow up. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Didnt understand a word of that because of how it was written.

You'l never understand anything that shuts you up.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In a nutshell, all it comes down to is we hypothesize about how a character would fare in battle based solely on on panel feats, capabilities proven on panel, power levels illustrated on panel, NOT character statements. Character feats are conclusive, a character comment is unproven and not necessarily what said characters actually believe, they could have a hidden agenda, a motive for saying certain things, so unless a statement is supported by a feat, you cant present it as conclusive evidence of what a character is capable of, this doesnt work like that.

Which is why we don't fall for all the hyperbolic bull shit you spew about Phoenix being the life-force of creation, or Phoenix being the Big Bang ... 😆

Phoenix has NEVER created a single Universe on panel.

Phoenix NEVER helaed the N-Galaxy Lattice,
she NEEDED ALL the X-Men plus Corsair HELP to do it,
without them ALL, it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for her.

Phoenix NEVER projected the Excalibur Tower on her own,
shee NEEDED the Interfaces to be Aligned FIRST across the Multiverse,
which allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse, in irder to project the
Tower into said Multiverse.

Phoenix needed to be within the White Hot Room in order to heal Reality 15104, Phoenix also NEEDED to go into the Past and Change Scotts mind about Emma and the School in order for Scott himself to Alter the "possible" Future of Reality 15104. 😂

She can't even change the Future by willing it, LIKE Wanda lets say or others.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
all it comes down to is we hypothesize about how a character would fare in battle based solely on on panel feats

hysterical

You got nerve.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Adam Warlock wielder of the Soul Gem and former wielder of the Infinity Gauntlet says the gems draw their power from the Big Bang.

Like I said, if the Gems draw their power from the Big Bang, it's from the first Big Bang that created ALL the Realities, the Infinity Being's cosmic suicide that created the Omniverse.

Not some silly Universal big bang that the Phoenix Force "sparks" ...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The handbooks took up this notion making it the official line.

Bull shit

You must've thought I'd let my peoples be fooled by you. 😬

What I tell yall,

half truths mixed with bull shit ... that's the name of his game.

"the Energy derived from the Big Bang itself,

ALLEGEDLY,

the same energy which empowers the Infinity Gems"

I guess you were never going to tell anyone it states ... ALLEGEDLY?

Allegedly: (of an incident or a person) said, without proof.

Nice try sucka.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your opinion to the contrary means little in light of the [B]most recent, canon, IG interpretation. [/B]

Gibberish.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Grow up.

Stop lying.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I been saying that forever. The LT said the wearer of the guantlet replaces Eternity. Nothing more.

The LT also said the IG can conquer Two MultiverseS,

but I guess that's the claim you ignore,

while the claim you like, is accepted. 🙂

It's also interesting how you ignore our debate yesterday,

I conclusively shoed you 4 Gems creating UniverseS,
those same 4 Gems neraly destroyed ALL the Realities.

I debated this and showed this yesterday, today,
the kmc bull shit comes in at full swing and swing on thse bull #shit # nuts.

Nice.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Who told you any of this?

It's a Fact.

There are NO Alternate Infinity Gems.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Can you direct me to the comic issue or other official publication where this was stated please?

I don't need to,

can you show me one issue where Alternate Gems appear?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There are other IG's in the universe as proven by the existence of other Infinity Gauntlets in the Marvel Multiverse.

What If SS has the IG

What if Impossible Man has the IG.

Those are What if, you bonehead.

Those are DIVERGED Realities from the 616 Universe. 😆

Are you so caught up in bull shit you don't even pay attention to what others post?

I said:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nope, there have never been Alternate Gems depicted in Marvel

The other Two IG's were from Diverged Realities of 616.

Meaning, several years AFTER the IG arc,

somehow in some mirror Universe the IG series is still taking place 😂
Thanos loses the IG to Surfer
Thanos loses the IG to Impossible Man

These are Realities that are stuck in a timeloop, awaiting their birth depending
on a Universe's History that ALREADY took place.

Kinda rediculous if you ask me.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
By current continiuity The IG's power derives from the power primordial which an energy source derived from the universes Big Bang:

[B]She Hulk V3 #8

[/B]

Again, either he's talking about the FIRST Big Bang that spawned the Omniverse,
or it's meaningless line coming from an idiotic issue.

Yea, in that issue She Hulk gets a job working for the Living Tribunal, 😆

Now that's an issue to take seriously.

Get that crap out of here.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Champion/Fallen Ones bio:

dontgetit

"the Energy derived from the Big Bang itself,

ALLEGEDLY,

the same energy which empowers the Infinity Gems"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So not only do the What Ifs illustrate the universal nature of the IG,

Gibberish.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
but on top of that its power source verifies it.

You tried to be slick,

CAUGHT!

Originally posted by Mr Master
You must've thought I'd let my peoples be fooled by you. 😬

😐

Originally posted by Mr Master
You'l never understand anything that shuts you up.

Which is why we don't fall for all the hyperbolic bull shit you spew about Phoenix being the life-force of creation, or Phoenix being the Big Bang ... 😆

Phoenix has NEVER created a single Universe on panel.

Phoenix NEVER helaed the N-Galaxy Lattice,
she NEEDED ALL the X-Men plus Corsair HELP to do it,
without them ALL, it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for her.

Phoenix NEVER projected the Excalibur Tower on her own,
shee NEEDED the Interfaces to be Aligned FIRST across the Multiverse,
which allows simultaneous existence in the Multiverse, in irder to project the
Tower into said Multiverse.

Phoenix needed to be within the White Hot Room in order to heal Reality 15104, Phoenix also NEEDED to go into the Past and Change Scotts mind about Emma and the School in order for Scott himself to Alter the "possible" Future of Reality 15104. 😂

She can't even change the Future by willing it, LIKE Wanda lets say or others.

hysterical

You got nerve.

Phoenix was depicted on panel being the sentient energies of the Big Bang. On top of that depiction, Phoenix has been stated on panel, numerous times to be the energies of creation and the sum and substance of all life.

Phoenix hasnt created a universe on panel, but one of its avatars has telekinetically warped the laws of space time to treat space/time like its a physical object and cut off the entire future from a timeline and hold it and all its matter in her hands. Not a universe but a future timeline i.e the universe and all its future states.

That same avatar who was but one of many then materialised the universe within the palm of her hand demonstrating telekinetic control of all the matter and energy of an entire universe.

If Phoenix is the sentient energies which bring life to reality and one of its many avatars can manipulate matter at least on a universal scale then Phoenix not creating a universe on panel is irrelevant when:

Neither has LT (which is why you concocted the the ridiculous notion that LT turned Silver Surfer into a universe to back yourself up when in fact it stated on panel LT gave Surfer a connection to the infinite , NOT turned him into it. To finish things off the handbook also stated my interpretation that LT just made SS one with the universes 😂 )

The IG has never created a universe

Jaspers has never created a universe. He doesnt create, he just manipulates realitys laws to make whats their fit in with his vision, same with all reality warpers. Nothing is created from scratch and when you take them out of reality they are nothing.

Abraxas has never created a universe

Merlyn has never created a universe

And yet you ignore this and focus on Phoenix. 😬

Phoenix re-energized the crystal with the aid of her friends for anchoragewithin reality via their souls and psychic moral support to help her perform the feat. If you want to argue that they gave her energy to perfrom the feat go ahead. Given that we're dealing with a multiversal power here(the crystal) and the combined power of the X-men involved couldnt even destroy a planet, its clear their input was negligible therefore rendering your point irrelevant.

Show me on panel where it states the matrix replicated the tower throughout the multiverse on contact? If that was the case then what would be the need for Phoenix to project the tower throughout the entire multiverse? 🙄

Your point about Phoenix needing the White Hot Room to perform her "telekinetic control of the atoms of the universe" is redundant when she performed the greater feat of warping the laws of space/time to treat space/time like its a physical object and cut off the entire future from a timeline and hold it and all its matter in her hands. Not a universe but a future timeline i.e the universe and all its future states. BEFORE she went in the White Hot Room. 😂

Your attempt to demean has been thwarted. Come again. 👇

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😐

Originally posted by Mr Master
It's a Fact.

There are NO Alternate Infinity Gems.

I don't need to,

can you show me one issue where Alternate Gems appear?

Those are What if, you bonehead.

Those are DIVERGED Realities from the 616 Universe. 😆

Are you so caught up in bull shit you don't even pay attention to what others post?

Ummmm the entire Marvel multiverse is made up of realities which diverged at some point from a prime one. By your logic i guess that means there are no alternate counterparts for any Marvel character or item because they diverged from 616? 🤨

Calling my post sh*t or gibberish and saturating your reply with smilies doesnt make it any less true, or yourself look anymore smarter. 🙁

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😐

Hes deluded. Messiah complex 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
On top of that depiction, Phoenix has been stated on panel, numerous times to be the energies of creation

Originally posted by Galan007
Of the Universe.

Isnt the universe termed creation sometimes? 😕

Heres an interesting tidbit

There’s a difference between the two Infinity Being interpretations depicted first in Thanos Quest and later in Ultraforce.

The first interpretation had the Infinity Being committing suicide and from this event not only was reality created but also the Infinity Gems:

This was later retconned into the Infinity Being just being a being that existed millenia ago within the current universe and his death caused the creation of the gems.

The Infinity Being did NOT create the current universe. He was as far as current continuity goes a being that resided within the universe

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Isnt the universe termed creation sometimes? 😕

But the context in which you used the word "creation", made it sound more then Universal imo.

So I just needed to clarify that. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure it is...

But the context in which you used the word "creation", made it sound more then Universal imo.

So I just needed to clarify that. 🙂

Thats cool. Thanks for your input. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats cool. Thanks for your input. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
we never seen the IG face a multiversal entitity.

ANd since it's power source is only universal,

and there are other ig's,

😆

The latest Infinity Gauntlet bio:

The Infinity Being as per current continuity created nothing and he lived within the current universe millenia ago. Upon his death the gems were created and thats that.

The truth always shines through eventually. ✅

Goodbye for now. 😄

Bedtime for GS 😱

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
as a weapon, its without a doubt the best in Marvel, even if its not the most powerful. The UN and CN have more destructive capacity from what we've seen on panel however they can only blow things up, they cant manipulate the facets of creation. [/B]

Gibberish.

An Incomplete IG owned the UN.

A Complete IG is overkill.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The IG can give a user virtual omniscience, increased physical capabilities, energy wielding abilities, all on a universal scale.

Beyond Multiversal scale accordin to the Soul Gem and the Living Tribunal.

Not to mention 4 Gems were creating one Reality after another,
those SAME 4 Gems (Space-Soul-Power-Mind) nearly destroyed ALL the Realities in creation.

Yea, folks let's overlook this shall we. 🙂

Ok, Galan, thanks for coming in. Now I have a little logic puzzle for you guys.

Can Cosmic Extant, with his control over time, reverse time to the point to where before Thanos got the IG? Or could he remove Thanos by erasing his parents or ensuring that he died before he got the IG?