Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Twice? I've hard about only one win and that was when Ken was brainwashed?
No, the first time was when Ryu returned from Goukentou after fighting Gouki. He was un-focused, and Ken cleared his head by defeating him.
The second time was most likely during the Second world warrior tournament.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Flamers...flamers...You sound as if without those implanted powers K' would be some fuc*ing loser on Shingo or Sakura level...
And being a "flamer" is not enough. Should I remind you the cast of 2001 tournament?
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.
Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
100000% TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMEN 🙂
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDitto. Somebody call me when one of them solos a "GOD". Iori is still high tier though. He's got other feats besides rolling on "GODS"
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
Originally posted by BlaxicanHydraFu*king awesome!
Ken wins easily.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarDitto.
Ken wins after a close fight.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelWhat years(s) did K's TEAM win KOF?
That "kid"'s record is rather impressive too. He was three times KOF champion at the age when Ken was still training (16-18 years). He's the youngest one in KOF elite...
Originally posted by shin_remyDitto
Ken beated Ryu in sf2 canon and he beated Urien in sf 3 3s. they are not nobody's!! and he beated many strong fighters in uncanon story's including Gill!!!There are just a few who can beat ken in the sf universe and those are the ones who can beat Ryu
I think Ken Masters can win from K'. But not with ease!!!!
Ken wins in a close fight
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
A f**king MEN!
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarEveryone!... Witness the truth!
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
K's won KoF99, KoF2000 and KoF2001. thank you.
K' defeated Zero, Original Zero and Igniz.
*bows and leaves*
No, without bad writing they would be moderate tier. Flamers constantly beat bosses who steam roll the cast with plot deivices and other non-sensicle stupidity. Upon witnessing this, fans decide to use said feats in versus despite them being clearly suspect.
Like I said, Who beat Who is the maxim when debating flamers. The argument is always something like this: "Kyo & Iori beat Orochi whose a God, so there higher than God's".
like having a human being become a godtier through sheer training isn't retarded? 🙄
~Sado
Sado, you're right only partially. Chizura, Iori and Kyo managed to defeat Orochi primarly because of the powers of their bloodlines ("anti-Orochi" but not really in cryptonite sense- they just have tools nesessary to seal the demonic creature).
But...versus Ingiz there were no cryptonite stuff, he has studied those sacred flames enough to know all their properties and... but well, that's also the "who beat who" thing.
The only time hero team wasn't the winning team in KOF was in 2003 when it was 3 Sacred Treasures team who won the tournament. From 99 to 2001 it was K' and his team who won all the three KOFs.
Stop downgrading K', people...
But- sacred powers mean dick without proper techniques to back them up... Both Kyo and Iori were trained since childhood to be the desent members of their bloodlines...It's not just the flames what means. The skills also paly the big part...
Flame user without proper skills means nothing. Flame doesn't grant its user any extra stamina.
And as for flame users without flames...look at Iori at Another Day anime. He's flameless- but he is still skilled enough not to look like Shingo-tier.
EXACTLY!!! thank you charlotte...now lets see what people have to answer regarding Iori pwning Soiree all over the place despite his flames and walking away scratchless despite the church falling on him. in face he even jumps from one building to another when he tries to crush Ash (wish he had though)
watch out people...the girl is on fire 😮💨
~Sado
P.S. and she's not pwning cuz she's got flames, mind you! 😆
They'll say that K' is too young to be truly skilled without flames...well, that young man was created as a weapon and he hates everything related to regular training (i.e. official sports competition) not without reason...the reason being really HARD training at NESTS. Kyo also hates that stuff (not sport, but hard work and dojo dorking) because of "overtraining" at young age, but at least he was trained by his own father...
Originally posted by Sado22
K's won KoF99, KoF2000 and KoF2001. thank you.
K' defeated Zero, Original Zero and Igniz.
*bows and leaves*
Right, we all remember what happened with Igniz. He got his ass handed to him despite having:
-Everyone's Data
-Studying the Kusanagi power for a year
- A boss as a body gaurd with bosses gaurding him
-The ability to steal people's Ki
-And, massive amounts of prep
HE STILL LOST
Originally posted by Sado22
really? that's just wrong now. no one here can decide how they would be without their flames and EVERYONE here knows that the flames doesn't give them extra power stamina or anything. so why pretend to be dumbasses?
No,no,no I didn't mean with their flame powers, Sado. 😆
I mean't the way they were written, I'm pretty sure they would do fine without the flames. 🙂
Originally posted by Sado22
no the argument is that since they defeated a god and both of them alone did an impressive feat of (Iori) neutralizing a god and (Kyo) sending him to lalaland with their greatest techniques makes them DAMN powerful. Not god. Just damn powerful. Iori himself is a godtier boss character.
That's just my point, said GODs outranked them completely. So, how did said Gods lose? 😕
KOF 2001 is the worst/best example of jobbing in the history of fighting games. Four Bosses lost against the flamers, and three of them were on teams.
Originally posted by Sado22
like having a human being become a godtier through sheer training isn't retarded? 🙄~Sado
Personally, I think it's cool considering there are only two beyond humans in SF. Makes more sense than humans pwning gods for free.