K' versus Ken Masters

Actually, Ken and Sakura engaged Bison first.

Ryu, drove him back with a Shoryuken after he esacped his influence.

Bison then went on to fight half the cast of Alpha 3, no one defeated him in a fight.

he fought Charlie, Guile and chunli. he was then engaged by Charlie for a while till he went "plop".

The Dolls sucked, but stop minimalizing, Sado. =/

Orochi on the other hand got pwned by one godtier, and two really hightiers. somehow that don't look too bad compared to this.

~Sado

again sado

Shut up.

Originally posted by Sado22
i know...so?

Originally posted by Sado22

the fact remains...Bison was forced to retreat despite all the advantages he had.

he fought the dolls. and was forced to retreat. again.

He killed most of the Dolls, and besides I always agree with you on that. So, why even bother to make a big deal about it?

Originally posted by Sado22

emperor, come on. you are the one who always asks for feats and i don't. over here, going with your way of logic...dolls are unimpressive because they are crap fighters. two of them coudln't beat Cammy who herself is far from hightier. What do you think that makes the dolls? Bison forced to retreat from 12 lower tiers despite being a godtier doesn't require minimilazing on my part....its is shamefully lame.

Orochi on the other hand got pwned by one godtier, and two really hightiers. somehow that don't look too bad compared to this.

~Sado

The whole Bison thing was garbage, and I admitt that. I've never tried to justify Ryu driving back Bison ever. Infact, I always say it's crap,why bring it up?

The Dolls suck, I hate them just as much as I hate Alpha 3.
As for the flamers being God Tier, I disagree.

Sado, as Who else? pointed out, you have to stop going by this whole tier thing.

Every game has it's own version of tiers. Like the dreaded "godteir" your always going on about.

SF godteirs split seas, kill people a million times in one attack, vaporize cities. KOF godteirs just get their ass whiped by the main characters.

And even though SFA3 story was crap, what happened in the end was no where near the crap that happens in the KOF boss battle. Seriously, a team of bosses getting their ass kicked by none bosses. That's crap and you know it, but I see that doesn't stop you from overrating KOF, now does it.

Dude you are so bias, it's as plane as day.

look emperor, i already said i'm not dredging up the whole PIS thing in SFA3 as personal spite. its just the best comparison that i can give to Orochi being pwned by Iori, Kyo and Kagura. that's all.

As for the flamers being God Tier, I disagree.

SF godteirs split seas, kill people a million times in one attack, vaporize cities. KOF godteirs just get their ass whiped by the main characters.

all SF goditers do is have infinite life, energy source and still get pwned by one move.
kill people million times? i don't think so
split seans? gill in his noncanon ending.
vaporize cities? using the power of the world against it...not their own power

And even though SFA3 story was crap, what happened in the end was no where near the crap that happens in the KOF boss battle.

Seriously, a team of bosses getting their ass kicked by none bosses.

you got anyother supperb rebuttals?

that's crap and you know it, but I see that doesn't stop you from overrating KOF, now does it.

Dude you are so bias, it's as plane as day.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
look emperor, i already said i'm not dredging up the whole PIS thing in SFA3 as personal spite. its just the best comparison that i can give to Orochi being pwned by Iori, Kyo and Kagura. that's all.

There both examples of bad writing, and are not admissible in versus. What's the point of bringing it up if they are the same?

Originally posted by Sado22

kyo and Kaguar arent godtiers.
Iori is.

If Iori was God Tier, he should have never lost to Igniz or Ash. Instead, he should have steam rolled them and any other boss without any aid.

Why? There both examples of bad writing, and are not admissible in versus. What's the point of bringing it up if they are the same?

If Iori was God Tier, he should have never lost to Igniz or Ash. Instead, he should have steam rolled them and any other boss without any aid.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
like i said, its what i use against people who claim that Orochi losing is PIs but forget about the bison bit.
and can we just drop this part...i already made it clear i'm not doing it for spite or to flame you.

I never said it was for spite, but bringing up the same examples does not refute what flamers did. How exactly would Ryu doing the samething as Iori make it okay for Iori?

Originally posted by Sado22

-he never lost to Igniz...and igniz is a GOD. he's supposed to be even stronger than Orochi.
-he lost to Ash due to being weaker in his Orochi form

~Sado

-Igniz is not stronger than Orochi, nor is he a God. He simply claimed to be one, and if Iori is God tier he should have owned him.

-According to brainchild, where's the evidence for that?

Originally posted by Sado22
look emperor, i already said i'm not dredging up the whole PIS thing in SFA3 as personal spite. its just the best comparison that i can give to Orochi being pwned by Iori, Kyo and Kagura. that's all.

kyo and Kaguar arent godtiers.
Iori is.

don't start the whole get their @$$ handed to them thing now. don't even thnk about it. hightiers of SNK pwn entires casts on their own (Omega Rugal), eradicate cities with a mere glimpse of their power (Geoonitz, and the keyword there is GLIMPSE), are capable of wiping out the entire planet (Orochi, Igniz).

all SF goditers do is have infinite life, energy source and still get pwned by one move.
kill people million times? i don't think so
split seans? gill in his noncanon ending.
vaporize cities? using the power of the world against it...not their own power

...

-Zero was taken down by K' who was already familiar with his moves from the previous year. no need to be sherlock holmes to get this one figured out.
-a lion doesn't qualify as a boss
-a clone krizalid was a weakass version of krizalid. the clones are weak versions of their original. play KoF long enough and you'd know it.
-Ron is barely as tough as Lin or Duon Lon, neither of who are even hightiers. Ron was SUPPOSED to be a boss, but that plan was sacked.

you got anyother supperb rebuttals?

i don't overrate as much as i state facts. the way i see it, its about what kind of character one guy puts down. jobbing or not, facts remain facts. Ryu can't KO a midtier. Kyo puts a full flege god who had the full power of being capable of wiping out humanity in lalaland. in a single day, Kyo won the KoF97 tourny, took on Orochi Iori, the Orochi team, and fought Orochi. what's Ryu's greatest show of stamina: getting pwned twice in a row?
the difference in power is plainly and painfully obvious.

so basically as long as SF characters are shown love its fine, in other words right?
stop making it a personal thing.
give proof, offer a rebuttal or just get lost.

~Sado

You keep tyring to go around the facts but the fact is, the boss team got beat up by none bosses.

And you are still using tiers, wtf, Hugo may have "mid tier" brains and speed but his strength and stamina are WAY above this "mid tier" you speak of.

If Orochi can't wipe out humanity in an instant or rather quickly it isn't a worthy feat. And now your starting to be a hypocrite, you flame SF for Ryu Shoryukening Bison but you bring up Iori and the others jobbing as a legitimate feat.

It's not personal Sado, it's just getting annoying. In debates you talk about SF's problems but not SNK's. And when people point out the SNK problems you ignore them or consider them feats.

No one has ever brought up Ryu making Bison retreat as a feat but you will bring Iori KOing Orochi every chance you get, not to mention Goenitz, and ect.

"Since Bison is "god tier" and Ryu made him retreat, now Ryu is "god tier""
That's you logic and it sucks major ass.

Lazy MFer and Emp are right

but some people here will never learn 🙄

Welcome to Sado's world, Lazy MFer.

and how come that we are off topic again and that someone is bringing up unimportant info ?

but some people here will never learn

Were is your proof that Goenitz destroyed this city? What's the cities name? I have yet to see it?

You keep tyring to go around the facts but the fact is, the boss team got beat up by none bosses.

And you are still using tiers, wtf, Hugo may have "mid tier" brains and speed but his strength and stamina are WAY above this "mid tier" you speak of

If Orochi can't wipe out humanity in an instant or rather quickly it isn't a worthy feat. And now your starting to be a hypocrite, you flame SF for Ryu Shoryukening Bison but you bring up Iori and the others jobbing as a legitimate feat

"Since Bison is "god tier" and Ryu made him retreat, now Ryu is "god tier"" That's you logic and it sucks major ass.

How exactly would Ryu doing the samething as Iori make it okay for Iori?

-Igniz is not stronger than Orochi, nor is he a God. He simply claimed to be one, and if Iori is God tier he should have owned him.

According to brainchild, where's the evidence for that?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22

never said it did.

So, once again, why keep bringing it up? No one in this thread is even trying to justify that feat as legitimate for a versus.

Originally posted by Sado22

and yet it took the entire cast of KoF2001 to put him out of commission while it took only Kyo and Iori to pwn Orochi?

Originally posted by Sado22

http://img387.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kyoiori3eq.jpg

~Sado

It took flamers to pwn Igniz as well, and the cast always get's steam rolled. It happened in 95 with Rugal, does that mean Rugal is stronger than Orochi now?

also your argument is slightly flawed since by KoF95 and KoF97 the characters have gotten a lot stronger. however, them getting pwned 6 years later despite being a lot stronger than before shows how strong Igniz was.

Wait,wait, wait. . . Orochi Iori's Ki was dropping enough for Ash to beat him but it was not enough for Orochi to break out a choke hold despite the fact he remained in that state far longer in KOF 97 then in any other game.

at any rate, you DO agree that Orochi Iori was weakened right?

~Sado

and here is the link, dude
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/b/kof97sp.htm

also notice that it was AFTER Orochi got pwned by the three of them and he was about to break free.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
no, the cast was only stream rolled in KoF95 and in this one. Orochi Iori didn't really beat the entire cast of KoF97.

I never siad it did, what I said was steam rolling th cast doesn't mean your stronger than a boss who does not. Rugal steam rolled the cast by himself, now is he stronger than Orochi?

Originally posted by Sado22

also your argument is slightly flawed since by KoF95 and KoF97 the characters have gotten a lot stronger. however, them getting pwned 6 years later despite being a lot stronger than before shows how strong Igniz was.

Igniz way had better prep than Rugal which explains why he stomped the cast. But, how does that make him stronger than Orochi?

Originally posted by Sado22

actually at the time Iori caught hold of Orochi, he was normal. Look at his face in that ending...he was normal Iori.

at any rate, you DO agree that Orochi Iori was weakened right?

~Sado

at the time he was looking back, his eyes were normal. at any rate, Orochi was already weakened and was still about to break free.

I never siad it did, what I said was steam rolling th cast doesn't mean your stronger than a boss who does not. Rugal steam rolled the cast by himself, now is he stronger than Orochi?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
at the time he was looking back, his eyes were normal. at any rate, Orochi was already weakened and was still about to break free.

Originally posted by Sado22

to me it depends when someone did it.

~Sado

Versus how?