why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

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I wonder how JesusIsAlive never post in a thread that makes sense.

Originally posted by JesusTheChrist
I wonder how JesusIsAlive never post in a thread that makes sense.

PM him and ask him, but let us know the answer. 😉

why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

Metaphorically speaking: maybe God is testing Himself, to see if He can create beings capable of finding the answer.

Re: why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

Originally posted by Mindship
Metaphorically speaking: maybe God is testing Himself, to see if He can create beings capable of finding the answer.

If God is omniscient, then that would be pointless.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If God is omniscient, then that would be pointless.
I knew someone was gonna say that. 😉 That's why I said, metaphorically speaking, so as not to stretch it too far. After all, if God is infinite in every imaginable and unimaginable capacity, then our limited, linear language could highlight, at best, only the tiniest sliver of divine motivation.

This is, of course, assuming for this thread, that the Big G exists.

hmmm. the hardcore believers still fail to comment .

Originally posted by maham
Simple: for us to worship Him.Since He is the Most Powerful and has the Power to create,He did it. N in case ur wonderin y any1 would want to create anythin,just stop usin all the modern facilities n try to live.u'll get the answer.

If God created us for the simple purpose of being worshipped, then he is a selfish and superficial being. If I had that power, I would do far better things than create people to worship me.

hmmm, marchello hasnt posted here yet. i think this thread shud not die yet.

Re: why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
this is i think a very serious question. why would ANY1 create anything. it cannot be without some sort of inclination. or reason. nothing is done without either DESIRE or NECESSITY. since the omnipotent god has NEITHER desire nor necessity{as he is complete in himself and neither WANTS, nor NEEDS anything outside his ownself. otherwise hed stop being omnipotent} why would he create ANYTHING other than himself. why would indeed he me MOTIVATED to do anything at ALL???? and for those who believe that the world is part of god, we can atleast agree that our CONCIOUSNESS as it is is not completely the SAME as god so the argument still remains.

what motivated him to do so?

Good question...but God does have a desire.

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all of mankind to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:3-4

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
PM him and ask him, but let us know the answer. 😉
I shall reveal to you his PM to me:

JesusIsAlive wrote on May 6th, 2007 10:00 PM:

A number of people have imparted the gospel of Jesus Christ to me.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
If God created us for the simple purpose of being worshipped, then he is a selfish and superficial being. If I had that power, I would do far better things than create people to worship me.

Like what?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I shall reveal to you his PM to me:

JesusIsAlive wrote on May 6th, 2007 10:00 PM:

A number of people have imparted the gospel of Jesus Christ to me.

That means he was told how to believe by other humans.

The problem is God is not something we can comprehend. Look at how small we are in comparison to everything in the world, then comes the solar system, the galaxy etc etc.... If God made all this then how can we even begin to understand or comprehend such a person?

True.

The one scripture in the original greek states "In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God."

It has been translated "Word", but it has a much more broad meaning such as to notions such as "Idea, thought, speech, account, meaning, reason, proportion, principle, standard", or "logic", even the laws of nature.

Re: Re: why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Good question...but God does have a desire.

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all of mankind to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."

1 Timothy 2:3-4

This doesnt really answer the question now, does it? If youre such a perfect being, why create mankind on the first place?

Assuming that he exists, i think God simply feels incomplete without someone - that would be us humans - to scare and boss around.

actually once you CONFINE god by ANY idea{including omnipotence/self completeion etc} then there is a template for human beings to relate to. the bible doesnt call him just trancendental does it. and the size of galaxies has no implication on human thought. big or small. if he has defined himself and is not different from the definition then he is subject to the laws of that definition.

the question still remains.

A god would not need to do anything, which means it doesn't have a need to create. If god has a need, then it is not perfect, but lacking. Therefore god is lacking. Can god be lacking and still be a god I wonder.

Originally posted by debbiejo
A god would not need to do anything, which means it doesn't have a need to create. If god has a need, then it is not perfect, but lacking. Therefore god is lacking. Can god be lacking and still be a god I wonder.

Therefore, God does not need. That means that the bible is wrong.

The God of the Bible is very human.

*["If God created us for the simple purpose of being worshipped, then he is a selfish and superficial being. If I had that power, I would do far better things than create people to worship me."]

***You are NOT God...you DON'T have that POWER...so your CONTENTION is IRRELEVANT.

Marchello