Originally posted by JakeTheBank
bakaIf you knew what IF can do, you'd know it's enough to beat Wolverine.
Skimming respect threads =/= knowledge of the character.
I'm not really taking this seriously, admittedly. I will when you do, though.
Until then, Danny Rand wins this in a horrific spite stomp.
When I look at a respect thread I look at the entire thread and READ what is happening. I take every debate seriously, and I'm fully aware of IF' powers. But I'm not a fanboy of IF and I know Wolverine very, very well. Well enough to know he'd beat Danny in any real confrontation.
I do most of my research by reading comics that I own. I'm not one to buy comics because the cover is nice. I research the issues before buying and if I see a feat in a respect thread I go find and buy that comic. IF hasn't grown on me yet as a character, so I see what I can in New Avengers and other stories with him in it.
You are dead wrong if you think IF is taking Wolverine. IF' only way to win is bfr. Other then that, Wolverine will keep on coming... And what the hell will IF do to stop Wolverine once he goes berserk? Nothing.
Originally posted by Mindset
Marvelknight, the guy who hasn't read an IF comic, declares Wolverine the winner.That's pretty compelling evidence.
No. The guy who knows what both characters can offer, who's already seen Wolverine beat him recently in a test of skill, and knows that IF has nothing Wolverine HF can't handle or you know, he can avoid the attacks all together.
Your argument that I don't read IF in his titles are weak... I know what IF can do. I've read comics with him and I've seen his entire respect thread and have seen other sources for information. You can try this on someone with no knowledge on IF at all. Not working here.
Originally posted by MarvelknightYea, not reading a single IF comic lends credence to your knowledge of IF.
No. The guy who knows what both characters can offer, who's already seen Wolverine beat him recently in a test of skill, and knows that IF has nothing Wolverine HF can't handle or you know, avoid.
Sounds legit.
Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, not reading a single IF comic lends credence to your knowledge of IF.Sounds legit.
Respect threads are there for a reason.
You can read, so stop playing this game. What part of "I've read comics with him and I've seen his entire respect thread and have seen other sources for information," did you not understand?
You are a fanboy plain and simple.
Originally posted by Mindset
Marvelknight, a reader of no more than zero IF comics, is definitely the person I'd listen to in regards to what IF is capable of.
Sure because respect threads don't show the same thing happening on the pages in comic book, right?
Why should anyone listen to you with this logic and way of thinking?
Where do respect threads get the info from? Comics.. But I haven't read a single IF comic, right? Wrong. Because scans are not from the comic book pages, right? Wrong.
I have IF featured in other comic books as well. Your reasoning for undermining my knowledge of IF is stupid and makes no sense at all...
There we are.
And that was all it took to put Mr. X out of that fight, as he didn't assist his team in taking down Danny.
But Wolverines tactics worked, too. He forced a draw, that's almost sort of like a win, right? Took an entire comic vs one panel, but it's results that count, amIright? 😈
Shang Chai could have done that too, of course, seeing drunken style is a Kung Fu thing, and he is the master of Kung Fu (And many other styles..)
Originally posted by StyleTime
That Mr. X fight makes absolutely no sense, but this isn't the first time it was discussed. Probably won't be the last.
I think the drunken style is a pretty good way of beating a low level telepath and impulse reader, going by comic book martial arts..
Think of how Superman beat Massacre, who's a far better impulse reader than Mr. X, by firing off heat vision at him, Massacre ducking, and the heat vision hitting the true target of a scaffolding above his head, that fell and hit him from behind as a distraction, letting Superman tackle him and beat him down so he couldn't focus.
That essentially sounds like what the drunken style was used for. Mr. X will still pick up the impulse that he's throwing an attack, but all it does is give him advance warning that the attack is coming, not the exact nature of the attack, and drunken style is difficult to impossible to read, which is why Danny chose it.
It's a common trope in comic, manga, or movie mediums that drunken boxing/kung fu defeats body reading capability. For example, Roshi uses drunken boxing vs Goku in Dragon Ball, and Goku's normally tight defense crumbles.
Danny didn't "put Mr X out of the fight" he hit him once and jumped away and was taken down almost immediately after by Ghost and Headsmen, while Mr X was standing beside Osborn perfectly fine.
Wolverine would rail through Iron Fist, it's not even a fair fight. Logan is faster, more skilled, and his damage soak is insurmountable for someone of Iron Fist caliber. Danny will tag Wolverine... and he'll smile and shrug it off. Wolverine will tag Iron Fist, and that will be the end of it. Wolverine eviscerates Iron Fist 10/10.