Originally posted by Trackz
actually all of my facts are correct, he doesn't resist class 100 hits normally, I listed a couple of character under class 100 strength who have KO'd him, and I can't believe people are trying to argue Wolverine wasn't ko'd by Hulk. He was dropped to the ground where he remained until the rest of the x-men engaged hulk and madrox attempted to get Wolverine to his feet (and still barely responding). It's PIS if it's the norm for Wolverine to tank class 100 hits (which it's not)James Roger KO'd him with a quick shield bash/kick combination (Captain America's adolescent son from an alternate reality)
lol
Sorry champ, but it is normal for Wolverine to resist class 100 hits. For every PIS example you can cite of him being koed by someone below class 100 like James Rogers, I can cite - conservatively - at least 20 examples where he wasn't. Hence, PIS.
Troll harder please.
I'm not arguing against Wolverine here just took up parts I disagreed with here and there, just to be clear.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=531065&pagenumber=20
^ For the KO's
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm not arguing against Wolverine here just took up parts I disagreed with here and there, just to be clear.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=531065&pagenumber=20
^ For the KO's
The people arguing against Wolverine are two trolls who think its funny to say Iron Fist 10/10 in every thread (that doesn't involve Grifter), a hater who would write a ten page essay on why Ms. Lion would take the majority from Wolverine, an idiot, and few posters who simply haven't read enough comics to know any better.
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Originally posted by Trackz
actually all of my facts are correct, he doesn't resist class 100 hits normally, I listed a couple of character under class 100 strength who have KO'd him, and I can't believe people are trying to argue Wolverine wasn't ko'd by Hulk. He was dropped to the ground where he remained until the rest of the x-men engaged hulk and madrox attempted to get Wolverine to his feet (and still barely responding). It's PIS if it's the norm for Wolverine to tank class 100 hits (which it's not)James Roger KO'd him with a quick shield bash/kick combination (Captain America's adolescent son from an alternate reality)
Iron Fist nearly broke his hand punching Savage Hulk btw.
Originally posted by srankmissingninlist the times that Wolverine has resisted class 100 blows
lolSorry champ, but it is normal for Wolverine to resist class 100 hits. For every PIS example you can cite of him being koed by someone below class 100 like James Rogers, I can cite - conservatively - at least 20 examples where he wasn't. Hence, PIS.
Troll harder please.
Originally posted by srankmissingninEvery time you post there are problems. If this continues I can promise you more than a 3 day ban next time. 🙂
The people arguing against Wolverine are two trolls who think its funny to say Iron Fist 10/10 in every thread (that doesn't involve Grifter), a hater who would write a ten page essay on why Ms. Lion would take the majority from Wolverine, an idiot, and few posters who simply haven't read enough comics to know any better.😎
Use the ignore function if you can't take people arguing against Wolverine. Otherwise, debate in a friendly manner.
Originally posted by Trackz
in the last year then
Fing Fang Foom
Magog
Namor
Wonderman
Hulk (Flashback)
Super Sentinel
ect
Then all the stuff with Helverine and NA amp, but that stuff doesn't count. Wolverine hasn't fought many heavy hitters this year yet. We are getting him some Alpha Flight and Annihilator's show downs in the next couple months though.
Originally posted by Mindset
Still no defense for this, I see.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sorry champ, but it is normal for Wolverine to resist class 100 hits. For every PIS example you can cite of him being koed by someone below class 100 like James Rogers, I can cite - conservatively - at least 20 examples where he wasn't. Hence, PIS.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI can't speak on all of them.
Fing Fang Foom
Magog
Namor
Wonderman
Hulk (Flashback)
Super Sentinel
ectThen all the stuff with Helverine and NA amp, but that stuff doesn't count. Wolverine hasn't fought many heavy hitters this year yet. We are getting him some Alpha Flight and Annihilator's show downs in the next couple months though.
In the case of Magog, it was a tail swipe no? He also wasnt the only one hit. Wonder Man wasn't using his upper level strength. Not every hit by a class 100 character is using their full strength, especially when we've seen characters like Sentry put him down easily. We've seen characters like Spiderman and Captain America take class 100 hits too...but no one really argues that they are capable of that level durability. It's more feasible that Wolverine at times can shake them off. Has the Super Sentinel issue come out yet?
Anyway, Wolverine can take some high level punches, but characters like James Rogers and FrankenCastle put him down with his in quick/rapid succesion. Three solid hits from Ironfist could end this.
My main point is, when class 100 characters nail more human characters (like captain america, black panther, punisher, and others) we assume they're holding back, but when they hit Wolverine we always assume they're using their full strength. That shouldn't be the case.
Originally posted by Trackz
I can't speak on all of them.In the case of Magog, it was a tail swipe no? He also wasnt the only one hit. Wonder Man wasn't using his upper level strength. Not every hit by a class 100 character is using their full strength, especially when we've seen characters like Sentry put him down easily. We've seen characters like Spiderman and Captain America take class 100 hits too...but no one really argues that they are capable of that level durability. It's more feasible that Wolverine at times can shake them off. Has the Super Sentinel issue come out yet?
Anyway, Wolverine can take some high level punches, but characters like James Rogers and FrankenCastle put him down with his in quick/rapid succesion. Three solid hits from Ironfist could end this.
My main point is, when class 100 characters nail more human characters (like captain america, black panther, punisher, and others) we assume they're holding back, but when they hit Wolverine we always assume they're using their full strength. That shouldn't be the case.
We've been told, on panel, that his organs liquify from the blows he receives from them, he just heals from it. That doesn't sound like he receives the same level of blows as Captain America and Punisher, at least not to me.
Originally posted by Trackz
I can't speak on all of them.In the case of Magog, it was a tail swipe no? He also wasnt the only one hit. Wonder Man wasn't using his upper level strength. Not every hit by a class 100 character is using their full strength, especially when we've seen characters like Sentry put him down easily. We've seen characters like Spiderman and Captain America take class 100 hits too...but no one really argues that they are capable of that level durability. It's more feasible that Wolverine at times can shake them off. Has the Super Sentinel issue come out yet?
Anyway, Wolverine can take some high level punches, but characters like James Rogers and FrankenCastle put him down with his in quick/rapid succesion. Three solid hits from Ironfist could end this.
My main point is, when class 100 characters nail more human characters (like captain america, black panther, punisher, and others) we assume they're holding back, but when they hit Wolverine we always assume they're using their full strength. That shouldn't be the case.
Thunderstrike and Brunhilda also get hit but they are both class 100.
Wonderman was using his full strength. He was pissed at Wolverine, and right after the attack he was stated as having Sentry class strength.
The difference between Wolverine taking hits from class 100 and Spider-man, Cap and the street level brigade doing it is that Wolverine has been expressively stated to be taking his opponents strongest blows in stride many times. The first time he trained with Colossus he was stated to be hit with his strongest blow and Wolverine merely shrugged it off. Alternatively there are dozens and dozens of examples of guys like Cap / Spider-man / DD / Punisher saying "I rolled with it at the last second! If that had connected cleanly I' d be a dead/finished/a smudge." Wolverine doesn't have that reasoning for his feats, he does it because he is innately capable of doing it. He hits the punches of his enemies full on with a smile on his face, and unlike the characters you mentioned who have rare examples of taking hits from high tier bricks, Wolverine does it all the time. We aren't "assuming that Wolverine is taking class 100 blows," we know he is... because we've been told... hundreds of times.
Frankencastle couldn't even put down Daken with traps prep, a subway car, and a large assortment of weaponry. Him even slowing down Wolverine - who heals faster then Daken and has an Adamantium skeleton - is PIS. We were never told what the powers of the future Young Avengers were, so it is conceivable that James Rogers has an ability that would validate him being able to ko Wolverine, but if he is the same character as the tv show then that - like every other feat you have cited - is PIS.
Originally posted by Trackz
list the times that Wolverine has resisted class 100 blows
Probably a lot, but how many times has he resisted getting KOed against someone that could match or exeed his speed and use pressure point attacks combined with the fist (Bearing in mind he could KO bricks using weak point strikes alone).
No one's saying Danny wins this in one attack (Except Mindset 😄), they're just saying he wins.