Iron Fist vs Wolverine

Originally posted by long pig
Have you ever seen Wolverine punch a giant war ship in half? IF can and has done, occasionally, near 80 or so ton strength feats like that. He's stopped a speeding bus with a single punch with that damn fist. He broke vibranium . Destroyed it, actually. Logan can't even cut vibranium, much less destroy it.

When has he punched a war ship in half? 😬

Iron Fist is able to do 80 ton POWER feats based on his Iron Fist technique, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with strength. Wolverine's strength feats are better...
And are you talking about Black Panther's suit? 🤨 because.. you know... it can be cut by sabretooth's nails even.

Originally posted by long pig
His speed feats are awesome, where Logan has....maybe two, and I honestly do mean two, actual speed feats, IF has hundreds. Here recently....well, recently for me in 98, in HFH, he was speeding around running through, dodging and slapping away machine gun fire while charging up a IF punch while carrying a little girl while having a broken leg.

Okay, now you're just being delusional.. Logan has DOZENS of feats of speed, you're making Danny out to be some sort of quicksilver and pretending Wolverine's a statue and that's just a load of bull.

Originally posted by long pig
His skill is good, I won't say much better than Wolverine's but not because Wolvie has shown skill, but because Marvel says he has it. But, it's safe to say he's VERY much more skilled in at least one fighting style. Which, if you actually believe wolverine knows every style ever created in the billions of years Earth has been around, it won't sound like a lot....but who actually believes that? **** you Marvel, he hasn't shown it. Neither has Champion.

Originally posted by long pig
As for Wolverine not feeling punches unless they're above class 30? Uh, when? When has he ever shrugged off a punch unless it's totally skill-less? I've seen him one shotted by peak humans who only have skill, yet they match him and take him out. IF hits like a 50 tonner and has skills out the ass to back it up.

😂

The way that Jinzin keeps saying "<something sarcastic>, k?", I'm getting images of a bubblegum-chewing secretary with a pen in her hair and triangular glasses, tapping them while she goes on KMC during work hours.

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Wolverine 8/10

Originally posted by jinzin
But you go ahead and start listing these normal people who have one shotted logan while I hold my breath k? 🙄

😂

Wait hold up, Logan doesn't notice hits from guys who are not superstrong?

A fat biker in a bar with a pair of knuckle dusters caved his face in, he sure as hell noticed that!

True he gave him the free shot but Logan had to hold his eyeball in while he healed his face back.

Jean even said he had a healing factor not a pain supressing one so why did he do that to himself.

Originally posted by Hercules
Wait hold up, Logan doesn't notice hits from guys who are not superstrong?

A fat biker in a bar with a pair of knuckle dusters caved his face in, he sure as hell noticed that!

True he gave him the free shot but Logan had to hold his eyeball in while he healed his face back.

Well it could be argued its a low showing. 🙁

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well it could be argued its a low showing. 🙁

This is true but low showing or not, it happened. shrug

don't you think having the upper hand IS being superior?

I agree that Logan would have beaten IF ahd the fight persisted but it didn't

Not if the upperhand is doing didly squat in hurting him, no.

Originally posted by Tyrant

Your idea of a "normal guy" is a someone who has oneshoted the Hulk? confused1

When a normal guy hits Wolverine, he doesn't even a bat an eyelid... even when they are working him over with nunchucks!

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Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The way that Jinzin keeps saying "<something sarcastic>, k?", I'm getting images of a bubblegum-chewing secretary with a pen in her hair and triangular glasses, tapping them while she goes on KMC during work hours.

🙁

sometimes words can hurt.....

k?

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Originally posted by Tyrant

uhhh yeah what Srank said...

Don't know if you read those books but Titannus gave Hulk the 3 hitter quiter, broke she hulk's arm like it was made out balsa wood, and, punched Hulk out AGAIN after he ran back into that fight. 😬

Definitely not a normal guy, and not even a valid "one shot", seeing as wolverine took two hits from the guy, and both hits where WITH his energy amp.

Originally posted by Hercules
Wait hold up, Logan doesn't notice hits from guys who are not superstrong?

A fat biker in a bar with a pair of knuckle dusters caved his face in, he sure as hell noticed that!

True he gave him the free shot but Logan had to hold his eyeball in while he healed his face back.

Jean even said he had a healing factor not a pain supressing one so why did he do that to himself.

The guyhad brass knucks and logan stood there and took it, he totally and completely shrugged that off, and it's the fact that he DID shrugg is off that made the biker run away before Logan punched him back... So that's a horrible example of proving your point.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not if the upperhand is doing didly squat in hurting him, no.

Iron Fist is trash. Marvel should quit trying to hype him up as some sort of top tier street leveler.

Originally posted by Hercules
Wait hold up, Logan doesn't notice hits from guys who are not superstrong?

A fat biker in a bar with a pair of knuckle dusters caved his face in, he sure as hell noticed that!

True he gave him the free shot but Logan had to hold his eyeball in while he healed his face back.

Jean even said he had a healing factor not a pain supressing one so why did he do that to himself.

He is a sick and twisted...

Originally posted by jinzin
I meant that he was applying more technique and getting more hits in.. in terms of fighting he was fighting superior.

That I agree with martial arts wise he did look superior and make Logan look like a rookie.

As in winning the battle he wasn't closer then when he started.

Logan leaps. IF Stands his ground. Logan strikes. IF FALLS backwards [Conner Hawke vs Draco 🥷 ] and takes off the Top of Wolvy's head with a piledriver as he sails overhead

I.F. 8/10 k?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
That I agree with martial arts wise he did look superior and make Logan look like a rookie.

As in winning the battle he wasn't closer then when he started.

agreed.

Originally posted by don't shiv
Logan leaps. IF Stands his ground. Logan strikes. IF FALLS backwards [Conner Hawke vs Draco 🥷 ] and takes off the Top of Wolvy's head with a piledriver as he sails overhead

I.F. 8/10 k?

were you drunk when you wrote this post?

DD knocked him out. Mr.X ****ED HIM UP using skill and way less than peak human strength. Some kid with a gun knocked him out with a single shot. (IF fist>bullet). Elektra. Spider Woman. There's a lot and you know this. For every really high showing, he has a thousand low showings.

Face it jin, I've read JUST as much Wolverine as you have. I KNOW Wolverine can take immense punishment from bricks and all sorts of things, but when he faces someone who isn't even superhuman but has an assload of skill, he almost always has problems with them.

IF can one punch knock Wolverine out. Wolvie has no defense against it. Wolvie can one hit kill IF with his claws, but IF DOES have a defense against it. IF CAN block adamantium claws with the iron fist.

IF IS faster and will decimate Wolverine in any contest other than a "Who can take more bullets" game.

Wolvie can win, but he most likely will not.