Originally posted by Bardock42
That being good in school is not equivalent to being intelligent. Also depending on frame of reference.Do I confuse you? I can clarify specific parts, if need be.
I'm sorry, is there some kind of ******* registration that I need to fill out before posting on these forums.
Maybe you did bad in school, but ummm yeah, it is the equivalent to being intelligent. sorry
Originally posted by Spartan005
Ok so I tried to be nice while typing that comment, but apparently you like to go down the childish route by calling me an idiot. Maybe I'll format this next paragraph differently so that you can understand it a bit better.
My policy is, if you act like an idiot I will call you an idiot. I don't necessarily use it as an insult, just a way to describe the actions or demeanour of a person.
Originally posted by Spartan005
First of all, I'm #48 in my class of over 700 students, so no I are not idiot.
I know people with degrees who have such little general intelligence and common sense that it's hard to have a discussion with them. How is any of this relevant?
Originally posted by Spartan005
Secondly, in regards to all of your name calling... I made this nice visual for you to hopefully understand what I think about your opinion.This is me.
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/\and this is care
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/\*Notice the distance between them
But in all seriousness...
Go on...
Originally posted by Spartan005
Ok first of all, yes, I love big explosions. They look cool and therefore keep me entertained.
"I'm not an idiot.". You, sir, keep ME entertained. This movie was clearly not for you, I think you are making just about the worst case against Cloverfield ever.
Originally posted by Spartan005
HOWEVER, that sure as hell doesn't mean that I think all movies that have big explosions are good. For example, Casino Royale is one of my favorite movies of all time (next to Pirates of the Caribbean and Raiders) while Die Another Day is one of my least favorite movies of all time. Nuff said
It was more a commentary on your idea of what makes a good movie, not that you literally just love explosions. You obviously have a very small perceptive ability and attention span and need to be treated to big flashy visuals to be entertained. If you didn't like it, but understood it and had an educated opinion, I could respect that. You are just clueless, though.
Originally posted by Spartan005
About the camera... the entire concept was retarded. I can almost guarantee that they used this idea because of their budget. I remember watching godzilla a couple of weeks ago and noticed how awesome cloverfield could have been if they shot it like the opening scene with godzilla. I actually found the last part of it on youtube....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osUPPz2QUYThey filmed pretty much the entire scene from the people's perspective. It came out absolutely incredible, and you could actually see everything going on... not some half ass blurry shots like in cloverfield.
The fact that it was disorientating and fast-cut was the whole point. It was meant to feel as spontaneous and disorientating as the attack itself. It was meant to remove you as far as possible from feeling like you were sitting comfortably in a cinema, even for a minute.
They could have done it like Godzilla, but then it would be shit, and just like every other monster movie. Even if Cloverfield was shit to me, I'd respect the fact that he tried something different, and he's J.J. Abrams. It's not like he couldn't have just cashed in and made a simple action movie with lots of money.
Godzilla was awful, real fans of Godzilla don't even class it as a Godzilla movie. It's like a bastard child.
Originally posted by Spartan005
I'm way too lazy to quote everything else but anyway....
Are you purposefully trying to discredit your opinion by promoting yourself as a lazy, easily entertained popcorn-chower?
Originally posted by Spartan005
You clearly have no idea what your talking about, because in godzilla they DO have backstorys. Nicks job/relationship, Audrey's life in NY, etc.
That's not a backstory. It's just reason for them to include romance for the girls who might watch the movie. Backstory is when you can look at the history of the character and see a lot there. Wolverine has a backstory, hence why he is getting his own movie. You couldn't make a movie based on "Nick and Audrey" or "Audrey's Life Before Godzilla Came.". That's not a backstory, it's "plot". Incredible awful plot at that.
Originally posted by Spartan005
by the way I'm not over simplifying the plot... at all actually. Please prove me wrong
I did, when you asked me to, or were you too lazy to read that? Should I type in caps to excite your attention?
Originally posted by Spartan005
and about your entire last paragraph you wrote...Your version of the plot can be summed up by saying this: "Revolves around a monster attack in New York as told from the point of view of a small group of people." That is the actual summary on imdb. Grats
Yes, my "version" can be simplified, that's the entire point I was making. It wouldn't, at all, capture what the movie is about.
Even that I.M.D.B. quote does the movie more justice than what YOU said, which was ridiculous. You are just destroying your own points.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Godzilla was a scared creature as well, nothing more. Also Grats
He wasn't scared. No, no, they made it a female didn't they? Yes.
SHE wasn't scared, she was looking for a place to nest where there was a lot of food. That's why she was there.
Originally posted by Spartan005
They gave the audience no clue how it ended? Are you serious right now? The very beginning says "camera retrieved at blah blah blah CENTRAL PARK" The first thing I said when I watched this was "$20 bucks says they all die" Super Grats
Did they factually all die? No. Again, I guess you weren't watching the movie.
The main characters didn't definitely die, some even escaped on the helicopter.
Originally posted by Spartan005
By the way, just a few more points:how exactly did you know godzilla would die at the end. Wasn't that obvious to me.
Because it was obvious to me, that's how these movies go. You would recognise this if you had an ounce of sense and intelligence in your perception of movies.
Originally posted by Spartan005
Don't assume that I'm going to love the halo movie no matter how it comes out. I watched the 5 minute short that came out and it blew.
Let's not bullsh*t ourselves, you will love it, won't you?
Originally posted by Spartan005
And sorry for finding Austin Powers funny.... oh my god that must mean that I'm some immature 12 year old wandering these forums. or wait a minute... were you the 22 year old who has almost 32,000 posts on an internet forum, arguing with a 17 year old.
I was using it as an example of the kind of cinema that is appealing to you, and on your level. With every post you confirm why your critique of Cloverfield is ridiculously void of credibility.
Originally posted by Spartan005
and for the record, how the **** did that camera survive the whole movie. I mean honestly. Every single main character dies, but the FREAKING CAMERA LIVES WTF??
This is the irony of your sort of fan. Accept any possible bs thrown at them, and then decide they are worthy of critiquing something that simply had to happen for the movie to exist.
Originally posted by Spartan005
I'm sorry, is there some kind of ******* registration that I need to fill out before posting on these forums.Maybe you did bad in school, but ummm yeah, it is the equivalent to being intelligent. sorry
You are a genuine idiot. You are proof that doing well in school doesn't equal intelligence.
-AC
Originally posted by Spartan005
I'm sorry, is there some kind of ******* registration that I need to fill out before posting on these forums.Maybe you did bad in school, but ummm yeah, it is the equivalent to being intelligent. sorry
Well, it is not though, factually. It might be in some ways related but it is not really a way of proving it.
"You, sir, keep ME entertained. This movie was clearly not for you, I think you are making just about the worst case against Cloverfield ever."
read the next line dipshit.
"It was more a commentary on your idea of what makes a good movie, not that you literally just love explosions. You obviously have a very small perceptive ability and attention span and need to be treated to big flashy visuals to be entertained. If you didn't like it, but understood it and had an educated opinion, I could respect that. You are just clueless, though"
again your completely disregarding what I just said.
The fact that it was disorientating and fast-cut was the whole point. It was meant to feel as spontaneous and disorientating as the attack itself. It was meant to remove you as far as possible from feeling like you were sitting comfortably in a cinema, even for a minute.
"They could have done it like Godzilla, but then it would be shit, and just like every other monster movie. Even if Cloverfield was shit to me, I'd respect the fact that he tried something different, and he's J.J. Abrams. It's not like he couldn't have just cashed in and made a simple action movie with lots of money.
Godzilla was awful, real fans of Godzilla don't even class it as a Godzilla movie. It's like a bastard child."
I know it was meant to be like that and I didn't like it. Its called an OPINION. get used to it.
real godzilla fans by the way, are a bunch of japanese people who enjoy watching ridiculously cheasy movies about a guy in a rubber suit that fights other monsters. They're opinions obviously count. Not to mention how practically every other country known to man hates America.
"Are you purposefully trying to discredit your opinion by promoting yourself as a lazy, easily entertained popcorn-chower?"
no I just don't have as much free time as you
... and I'm done arguing about godzilla
"Did they factually all die? No. Again, I guess you weren't watching the movie.
The main characters didn't definitely die, some even escaped on the helicopter."
I remember on the cloverfield site or something it said hud's height went down to 2'6" or something, which usually = death. The black girl might have escaped but then again there was an explosion right after they took off which could have been her helicopter. the rest of them died. end of story.
"Because it was obvious to me, that's how these movies go. You would recognise this if you had an ounce of sense and intelligence in your perception of movies."
no you're lying and once again you're an *******
"Let's not bullsh*t ourselves, you will love it, won't you?"
Neil is a BAD director. So maybe, maybe not
"I was using it as an example of the kind of cinema that is appealing to you, and on your level. With every post you confirm why your critique of Cloverfield is ridiculously void of credibility."
about that... I saw the movie for the first time before I hit ****ing puberty. so maybe if I saw it now for the first time, it wouldn't be as funny. Again, my opinion.
"This is the irony of your sort of fan. Accept any possible bs thrown at them, and then decide they are worthy of critiquing something that simply had to happen for the movie to exist."
which again is why I hate the handheld camera idea. Why can't you just accept that other people have opinions. honestly, get over it. I didn't like it, you did... big ****ing deal.
peace?
- They're opinions obviously count.
their
- Not to mention how practically every other country known to man hates America.
...did you clean that statistic?
-no you're lying and once again you're an *******
It was pretty obvious that Godzilla wouldn't destroy NYC and live happily ever after.
-about that... I saw the movie for the first time before I hit ****ing puberty. so maybe if I saw it now for the first time, it wouldn't be as funny. Again, my opinion.
Austin Powers is hilarious, fact. AC is gay.
Originally posted by Spartan005
again your completely disregarding what I just said.
Yes, because everything you have said is either hypocritical, bullsh*t, or miraculously both.
Originally posted by Spartan005
I know it was meant to be like that and I didn't like it. Its called an OPINION. get used to it.real godzilla fans by the way, are a bunch of japanese people who enjoy watching ridiculously cheasy movies about a guy in a rubber suit that fights other monsters. They're opinions obviously count. Not to mention how practically every other country known to man hates America.
If their opinions don't count, then yours certainly doesn't. Most of the real Godzilla fans recognise that it's very cheesy, very obvious, but find it very endearing. It's part of what makes up Godzilla, nobody is ignoring it, just embracing it for what it is.
Some of them have been utter shit, some have been funny, some have been genuinely good movies for the genre.
At least Toho can say they made movies unlike any other that were out. Godzilla U.S. was just another American monster movie.
Originally posted by Spartan005
no I just don't have as much free time as you... and I'm done arguing about godzilla
How was that even a relevant reply?
Originally posted by Spartan005
I remember on the cloverfield site or something it said hud's height went down to 2'6" or something, which usually = death. The black girl might have escaped but then again there was an explosion right after they took off which could have been her helicopter. the rest of them died. end of story.
Do you know for a fact that they definitely died? Prove to me they died.
Originally posted by Spartan005
no you're lying and once again you're an *******
No, not really. It was obvious, you're just stupid.
Originally posted by Spartan005
about that... I saw the movie for the first time before I hit ****ing puberty. so maybe if I saw it now for the first time, it wouldn't be as funny. Again, my opinion.
Then why say it? Odd.
Originally posted by Spartan005
which again is why I hate the handheld camera idea. Why can't you just accept that other people have opinions. honestly, get over it. I didn't like it, you did... big ****ing deal.
I've continually said, and proven, that I do not care if someone dislikes it. My qualm is with idiots who have idiotic opinions based on nothing. A lot of what you've said has also been wrong, outside of opinion, also a factor.
-AC
How was that even a relevant reply?
how isn't it?
"Do you know for a fact that they definitely died? Prove to me they died."
you're supposed to believe that they die. thats very clear. and we know 2 of them did.
Then why say it? Odd.
because it was probably one of the only scenes in a movie that I remember crying from besides bruce almighty
Originally posted by Spartan005you cried during Cloverfield? 😕
How was that even a relevant reply?how isn't it?
"Do you know for a fact that they definitely died? Prove to me they died."
you're supposed to believe that they die. thats very clear. and we know 2 of them did.
Then why say it? Odd.
because it was probably one of the only scenes in a movie that I remember crying from besides bruce almighty