Superheroes (without powers) slug fest

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

The worlds best MA won't beat an elephant. It's just common sense. I think WW can do some wins, but just not the majority.

Don't they do this in comics all the time? like they beat lions and bears and tigers all the time anyway. (I remember doom beat a lion pretty easy and he's not the best MA. He's no shrimp though) So can Lady Shiva and Batgirl not beat any MA's that are bigger than them?

If thor gets his Asguardian super dense body or whatever then that's a totally different story too.

Skillwise though i'm not sure how much better wonderwoman is than thor. you do never see thor do anything that good martial arts wise but his history makes it so he should be extremely skilled.

let's say that thor doesn't get his asgardian body, but gets what a peak human being gets being his size and muscularity...

so that's around 6'6", probably 300 or something lbs... max weight lifting capability of 800lbs or something

Originally posted by FrothByte
There have often been times in comics when the superhero's powers were removed and he/she had to fight as a normal human being. So who would win in an all out brawl between the following considering that ALL their super powers were removed and they had to fight as just normal human beings:

Thing
Flash
Colossus
Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Wonder Woman
Juggernaut
Spiderman

1st: Wonder Woman
2nd: Thor
3rd: Colossus
4th: Thing
5th: Juggernaut
6th: Spider-Man
7th: Silver Surfer
8th: Superman
9th: Flash

Thor has held his own grappling with Hercules. No reason he doesnt deliver a Lifetime movie of the week beatdown here.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There have often been times in comics when the superhero's powers were removed and he/she had to fight as a normal human being. So who would win in an all out brawl between the following considering that ALL their super powers were removed and they had to fight as just normal human beings:

Thing
Flash
Colossus
Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Wonder Woman
Juggernaut
Spiderman

thor
colossus
ww
thing
juggernaut
superman
flash
spiderman
surfer

Originally posted by redhotrash
Thor has held his own grappling with Hercules. No reason he doesnt deliver a Lifetime movie of the week beatdown here.

Except for the fact that 2 or 3 people here are much more skilled than him. And he and everyone else is reduced to peak human stats.

And good call on the maker taking away Thor's asgardian advantage. Otherwise, this fight is pointless.

It's really between Clark and Diana. Clark is the only guy here with demonstratible high end skill besides her. He could probably still lose, but he at least can hang and maybe take a few. The others are vastly outmatched in skill.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
1st: Wonder Woman
2nd: Thor
3rd: Colossus
4th: Thing
5th: Juggernaut
6th: Spider-Man
7th: Silver Surfer
8th: Superman
9th: Flash

Superman and the Flash have both trained with Batman and Wonder Woman for years.

They are definitely more potent in a powerless fight than the Silver Surfer and Spiderman.

Superman has also been trained by Mongul, and had a one thousand year battle in Asgard, and a 100 year battle against Gog.

Yet he rarely shows his skill...ever or even his genius intelligence too 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
1st: Wonder Woman
2nd: Thor
3rd: Colossus
4th: Thing
5th: Juggernaut
6th: Spider-Man
7th: Silver Surfer
8th: Superman
9th: Flash

cool! 😎

Originally posted by Soljer
Superman and the Flash have both trained with Batman and Wonder Woman for years.

They are definitely more potent in a powerless fight than the Silver Surfer and Spiderman.

i actually think those superheroes with superspeed might suffer a bit from this... since they won't be used to operating at such slow speed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
There have often been times in comics when the superhero's powers were removed and he/she had to fight as a normal human being. So who would win in an all out brawl between the following considering that ALL their super powers were removed and they had to fight as just normal human beings:

Thing
Flash
Colossus
Superman
Thor
Silver Surfer
Wonder Woman
Juggernaut
Spiderman

Top 5

THOR
WW
THING
Colossus
Juggernaut

Enuff said...

😉

WW
Thor
Colossus
Thing

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wonder Woman is the master of over 3000 martial arts and unmatched in so many weapons styles it's crazy.

Here we go again... comic nerdiness run amok! There aren't 3000 martial arts disciplines (h2h) in existence. May I make a suggestion?

GO WATCH A UFC MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FIGHT!!!

Size and strength make ALL the difference in a real fight. Fancy techniques and slick moves play a very small role... it comes down to the basics of strength, speed, size, basic striking, and basic grappling. Yes skill matters- but a depowered Thor totally overwhelms a depowered Diana. Only a fool who has never seen a fight in real life thinks otherwise.

Thor - a HUGE man, a warrior. First, no contest.
Thing - a big, tuff, street fighter... AND Ben was a Gold Gloves boxer.
Juggernaut - also a big, tuff guy. He was in the army, had some training.
Colossus - very big, very strong- knows at least a few Logan moves.
Wonder Woman - very strong for a woman her size, extremely skilled (tied with Thor in fighting skill/experience), but not enough power.
Superman - good size and strength, average skills.
Flash, Surfer, and Spider-man fight for the last three spots- Spidey has an edge, cause he uses a LOT more h2h in his fighting.

A woman of 125/150 lbs punching a man of 290/320 lbs? Laughable.

When WW kicks Thor in the balls and drops to the floor....he's no longer in first place. That's why she gets first place.

Originally posted by [BAW]Endrict
When WW kicks Thor in the balls and drops to the floor....he's no longer in first place. That's why she gets first place.

if it was that easy to kick a guy in the balls, then any martial artist woman should stomp a man in a street fight.

Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
Here we go again... comic nerdiness run amok! There aren't 3000 martial arts disciplines (h2h) in existence. May I make a suggestion?

GO WATCH A UFC MIXED MARTIAL ARTS FIGHT!!!

Size and strength make ALL the difference in a real fight. Fancy techniques and slick moves play a very small role... it comes down to the basics of strength, speed, size, basic striking, and basic grappling. Yes skill matters- but a depowered Thor totally overwhelms a depowered Diana. Only a fool who has never seen a fight in real life thinks otherwise.

May I make a suggestion?

Pick up a comic. You're debating about comic book characters on a comic book versus forum. In the comics there are three thousand slick fancy moves that will allow a person to easily match someone five times their size. See Cassandra Cain for evidence.

For example, how about an eight year old female girl taking on five fairly built guys?
http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirln1p024td.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirln1p037ly.jpg

Oh...and massacring them.

Or, hell, doing it again - a bit older, but certainly not much heavier:
http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gothamcitysecretfilespg044yp.jpg
http://img486.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gothamcitysecretfilespg054ec.jpg

Maybe these guys aren't as big as Thor? Well, how about someone who's forehead is about the size of Cassie's torso?
http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirl003161oo.jpg

Yes - I agree whole heartedly; in a real world fight with real world martial arts, size and strength are gargantuan factors.

When we're talking comic-book characters with comic-book skill? Skill tops all.

That's why Batman wins vs tougher opponents...skill and brains.

Originally posted by [BAW]Endrict
When WW kicks Thor in the balls and drops to the floor....he's no longer in first place. That's why she gets first place.

Again, foolish. Thor is a brute. Do me a favor pal... go into a gym in any big city, walk up to some 6'6'' dude- a guy around three hundred pounds and enough muscle on him to snap your neck like a twig...
and kick him in the balls.
Shroud be easy, right? And think of your rep... you'd be the man!
Please try to be a little realistic. Thor is a Viking War-god. Have you seen how Vikings fight? Go rent Gladiator and watch the opening battle scene. The Viking's were berserker warriors... they even scared the Roman legions. Take a look at those gigantic blood lusting wariors and tell me a skinny little woman could even get a kick to the balls in, let alone stop such a fighter. It would NEVER happen. One punch from such a powerful man would shatter a woman's jaw... it's called truth.
Yes< I know that comics are fantasy... but the nature of this thread stripped all characters of their poweres- placing them squarly in the realm of reality.

Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
Again, foolish. Thor is a brute. Do me a favor pal... go into a gym in any big city, walk up to some 6'6'' dude- a guy around three hundred pounds and enough muscle on him to snap your neck like a twig...
and kick him in the balls.
Shroud be easy, right? And think of your rep... you'd be the man!
Please try to be a little realistic. Thor is a Viking War-god. Have you seen how Vikings fight? Go rent Gladiator and watch the opening battle scene. The Viking's were berserker warriors... they even scared the Roman legions. Take a look at those gigantic blood lusting warions and tell me a skinny little woman could even get a kick to the balls in, let alone stop such a fighter. It would NEVER happen. One punch from such a powerful man would shatter a woman's jaw... it's called truth.