Originally posted by jalek moye
how does she beat thor and thing as a normal human. they are her supeirs in every way and skilled enough to make it so that she isn't able to dominate them
A normal human that would still have her fighting skills, yes? WW has sparred with Batman as well as Black Canary and has done so more than once. Batman is one of the best h2h combatants in DC and so is Canary. She didnt use her massive strength nor speed advantage. Has Thor or Thing done anything similar?
well thor isnt some no skilled bum. If you turn them into normal humans well you have a reletivly skinny girl that is skilled against a much larger, stronger, durable man who is just as fast with alittle bit lower skill. Who do you think would win that.
Against thing it would be more even but i still think he would beat her.
But she def beats all the other in this thread
Originally posted by jalek moye
well thor isnt some no skilled bum. If you turn them into normal humans well you have a reletivly skinny girl that is skilled against a much larger, stronger, durable man who is just as fast with alittle bit lower skill. Who do you think would win that.Against thing it would be more even but i still think he would beat her.
But she def beats all the other in this thread
if thing can do it, i really don't see why colossus can't...
Originally posted by jalek moye
well thor isnt some no skilled bum. If you turn them into normal humans well you have a reletivly skinny girl that is skilled against a much larger, stronger, durable man who is just as fast with alittle bit lower skill. Who do you think would win that.Against thing it would be more even but i still think he would beat her.
But she def beats all the other in this thread
Not saying Thor is a no skilled bum, but when has he displayed any real type of skilled against fighters comparable to Canary and Batman? Same for Thing? WW's size doesnt have much to do with the outcome of the fight. It may if she were to get grabbed, but i feel her skills are good enough to prevent it. What proof do you have that Thor and Thing would be just as fast as her if everyone is powerless?
Originally posted by jrodslam
Not saying Thor is a no skilled bum, but when has he displayed any real type of skilled against fighters comparable to Canary and Batman? Same for Thing? WW's size doesnt have much to do with the outcome of the fight. It may if she were to get grabbed, but i feel her skills are good enough to prevent it. What proof do you have that Thor and Thing would be just as fast as her if everyone is powerless?
Well when powerless normal humans that have fighting skill are about the same speed. and generally guys are capable of striking faster. so i just assumed that they would be about the same sinc ethere is no evidence either way for them being comparable while powerless.
And size and strength have alot to do with the outcome of fights. While she would have alot harder time hurting them, they would have an eaiser time and I feel Thor should be able to grab her, doesn't he have longer reach also?
Well, he kept up with Cap when he was powerless and IIRC he had some decent skill feats in the Son of Asgard series, however Wonder Woman likely has even better feats.
That said, in normal bodies Thor would have around 200 pounds of muscle and 7 inches on her, that should more than make up for her skill advantage.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, he kept up with Cap when he was powerless and IIRC he had some decent skill feats in the Son of Asgard series, however Wonder Woman likely has even better feats.That said, in normal bodies Thor would have around 200 pounds of muscle and 7 inches on her, that should more than make up for her skill advantage.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
For surfer are we removing his cosmic glaze as well or just his cosmic powers? If he still has his glaze then he wins. If not then he gets thrashed and Thor probly wins.
Yes, we're removing ALL of their powers, including Thor's asgardian physic. So they get stuck with human bodies (with all human weaknesses) appropriate to their size and appearance.
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
My first thought would be Diana because of demonstrated skill. (Thor would be close)
Just because WW is consistently drawn in comics doing fancier kicks and sommersaults than thor doesn't mean she's the better fighter.
Capt. America beat the crap out of Daredevil using nothing but punches. DD came at Cap using all of his sweet ninjutsu moves, and all Capt. A did was to dodge, punch, dodge, punch, block, punch and down went DD.
I'm not saying thor is better than Diana either. All i'm saying is that we have no definite proof that WW has higher fighting skills than thor. All we know is that they have both been trained in H2H since birth, and that thor (i think) is a couple of hundred years older.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just because WW is consistently drawn in comics doing fancier kicks and sommersaults than thor doesn't mean she's the better fighter.Capt. America beat the crap out of Daredevil using nothing but punches. DD came at Cap using all of his sweet ninjutsu moves, and all Capt. A did was to dodge, punch, dodge, punch, block, punch and down went DD.
I'm not saying thor is better than Diana either. All i'm saying is that we have no definite proof that WW has higher fighting skills than thor. All we know is that they have both been trained in H2H since birth, and that thor (i think) is a couple of hundred years older.
Lol thats true cap has a very simple style all he does is punch dodge and do a side kick
1. Thing- He is a formidable and relentless hand to hand combatant. His fighting style incorporates elements of boxing, wrestling, judo, jujutsu, and street-fighting techniques, as well as hand-to-hand combat training from the military. (From wiki)
2/3. Colossus - toss up, both are big dudes
2/3. Thor- toss up both are big dudes. I feel like Colossus wins though cause Thor is not used to fighting without his powers. (I know he has lost his powers before, but even still)
4. Wonder Woman- good fighter but lacking in size and strength
5. Juggernaut
6.Superman
7.Flash
8. Silver Surfer
9. Spiderman