Sado, is Darkstorm claiming that Ken has better grapples than Paul?
i dont know what he's saying, really.
first he says paul used his strongest move and then i tell him he didn't and that's been the whole point of my argument. then he says ryu (someone we aren't even talking about) wasn't lifting the boulder with his strongest grapple and then i point out that grappling a rock is kinda werid. then he says i'm insisting that i am saying Paul can shatter boulders with a jab which is FAR from what i've been saying since day one, and when all that wasn't weird he wants me to prove that Paul has bone breaking moves despite his movelist having them...don't know what he's smoking lately.
Ken's Shoryuken can officially break a cyborgs jaw. But, people are claiming he can't break bones.
good point. but its only obvious that Paul can do worse for shattering boulders and walls to bits. regarlless thanx for pointing that out. i forgot that one.
the main point that i was making was that Paul's a better grappler hence pretty dangerous at close quarters.
Grapples aren't the instant snap-your-spine-in-two grapples, alot of grapples can be reversed, leading to a deadly counter, so if Paul really wants to take the risk and continue using constant grapples and not focusing on not getting countered, whatever. Also, Ken dosen't need to use grapples if he is a veteran fighter, he can just counter Paul's moves using a Shoryuken, but I'm not saying grapples are bad though, or that a Shoryuken can take Paul down that easily.
ditto. its a really really good fight but people are just making Paul look like a spineless rookie.
the thing with grapples is how fast both the user and the victim are. Ken has amazing reflexes but Paul is a veteran. he's been fighting for alot longer and more frequently since he's a street fighter and not just dojo dorky. between the two i'll give Paul experience as well as power. speed is in ken's department.
then there is the part with reversals. there really isn't much you can do when you throw a punch and someone uses your momentum against you. if ken does a kick, Paul has the knee breaker reversals and others to simply a) use his momentum against him to break his bones or b) use his own monstrous power and toss him. physcially Paul is not only heavier but bigger and has shown more strength feats. he's also shown great durability.
once again, its a really great fight. but I put my money on one who lives for a fight and was willing to give up money, fame and girls for what he loved doing (T4 ending).
the bias against Paul is shameful here.
~Sado
P.S. this is what i was talking about emp. sorry if i came on a litte rude in the Sagat-Paul thread.