Originally posted by Black bolt zBfr is a option as he used it on Champion, he doesnt need the gun for force block as shown against Odin,as he used to force block by his own command.DD may adapt to matter manip but at what rate no one knows as he hasnt had any matter manip against him.
[B]BFR yes but unlikely.Forceblock no as he needs the gun.And matter manip he will adapt to.
I assumed his first death and thats usually what pre-death meansNot really, pre death could mean his first death by Warlock or his 2nd or 3rd death by Drax.
Originally posted by NihilistI meant not likely for BFR because he would have a hard time getting through DD to BFR him.
Bfr is a option as he used it on Champion, he doesnt need the gun for force block as shown against Odin,as he used to force block by his own command.DD may adapt to matter manip but at what rate no one knows as he hasnt had any matter manip against him.Not really, pre death could mean his first death by Warlock or his 2nd or 3rd death by Drax.
Yes he does need the gun as he wasn't shown to use it without the gun against odin.No he didn't use it on his own.
He'd most likely adapt after the first win and thats assuming that Pre-death thanos can matter manip him for one win.
I always think of pre-death as before his first then "IG saga" thanos as his normal level and current thanos as the unkillable one.
Originally posted by Black bolt zWhat? Thanos bfrd Champion by just pointing his finger at him and bfring him with a beam of energy.
I meant not likely for BFR because he would have a hard time getting through DD to BFR him.
Yes he does need the gun as he wasn't shown to use it without the gun against odin.No he didn't use it on his own.My god, he didnt use the gun against Odin,read the comic please he uses the force block by command,see how his eye glows signaling the commmand,Thanos is stood side/back on to Odin so shooting him with a gun would be nigh impossible. Do you see anygun in Thanos hands before or after the force block, no you dont.
He'd most likely adapt after the first win and thats assuming that Pre-death thanos can matter manip him for one win.There is more than one thing Thanos has done with matter manip you know, and he was using matter manip since his very early appearances
I always think of pre-death as before his first then "IG saga" thanos as his normal level and current thanos as the unkillable one.He was at the same power lvl when Drax killed him for the first time as he was during the whole IG,IW,IC saga.
Originally posted by Nihilist
What? Thanos bfrd Champion by just pointing his finger at him and bfring him with a beam of energy.My god, he didnt use the gun against Odin,read the comic please he uses the force block by command,see how his eye glows signaling the commmand,Thanos is stood side/back on to Odin so shooting him with a gun would be nigh impossible. Do you see anygun in Thanos hands before or after the force block, no you dont.
There is more than one thing Thanos has done with matter manip you know, and he was using matter manip since his very early appearances
He was at the same power lvl when Drax killed him for the first time as he was during the whole IG,IW,IC saga.
Originally posted by Omega VisionSimple answer, Odin is still far more powerful than Thor with the power gem, and Odin even comments on Thanos using the same the same tactic as he did against Thor.
If I wanted to be a dick I'd ask if there's any proof that the FB Thanos creates sans gun is as powerful as that created with the gun, seeing as gun FB restrained PG Thor and sans gun FB got treated like a momentary nuisance by Odin.
Why would Thanos use a less powerful FB against Odin when he knows how powerful Odin is?
Originally posted by Nihilist
Simple answer, Odin is still far more powerful than Thor with the power gem, and Odin even comments on Thanos using the same the same tactic as he did against Thor.Why would Thanos use a less powerful FB against Odin when he knows how powerful Odin is?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I meant not likely for BFR because he would have a hard time getting through DD to BFR him.Yes he does need the gun as he wasn't shown to use it without the gun against odin.No he didn't use it on his own.
He'd most likely adapt after the first win and thats assuming that Pre-death thanos can matter manip him for one win.
I always think of pre-death as before his first then "IG saga" thanos as his normal level and current thanos as the unkillable one.
I don't think you quite understand how the fights work here on KMC... They aren't one continuous on going match.. Where they pick up where they left off from the last battle with knowledge of the first encounter.. The next fight starts out as a totally new battle with no prior knowledge of the previous fights.
Originally posted by NihilistAre you referring to thanos quest?If you talking about sending him to a planet by pointing he could have done that by blowing on him.Space motion never stops.
What? Thanos bfrd Champion by just pointing his finger at him and bfring him with a beam of energy.My god, he didnt use the gun against Odin,read the comic please he uses the force block by command,see how his eye glows signaling the commmand,Thanos is stood side/back on to Odin so shooting him with a gun would be nigh impossible. Do you see anygun in Thanos hands before or after the force block, no you dont.
There is more than one thing Thanos has done with matter manip you know, and he was using matter manip since his very early appearances
He was at the same power lvl when Drax killed him for the first time as he was during the whole IG,IW,IC saga.
You don't see thanos's hand when he traps Odin.Thus you can't say it one way or another.But hes only been shown to use it with the gun.
Score: With gun:1 without gun:0. I win.
I know.But even if pre death thanos's matter manip is strong enough to get one win which its possible it even isn't HP DD will adapt to that.
No he wasn't.Death gave him an upgrade.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIs this in the rules?And if it is then whats the freaking point of adaption?
I don't think you quite understand how the fights work here on KMC... They aren't one continuous on going match.. Where they pick up where they left off from the last battle with knowledge of the first encounter.. The next fight starts out as a totally new battle with no prior knowledge of the previous fights.
Originally posted by Black bolt zNo, im talking about a Surfer comic featuring Drax,Champion,Nova.
Are you referring to thanos quest?If you talking about sending him to a planet by pointing he could have done that by blowing on him.Space motion never stops.
You don't see thanos's hand when he traps Odin.Thus you can't say it one way or another.But hes only been shown to use it with the gun.You dont win, you have to prove he was using the gun a you first stated he did, and as there is no idication he even used one, its safe to say youre wrong.Like i said do you see Thanos carrying a gun? is he holding the gun straight after he FB's Odin? no, nothing of the sort.
Score: With gun:1 without gun:0. I win.
I know.But even if pre death thanos's matter manip is strong enough to get one win which its possible it even isn't HP DD will adapt to that.He turned a skrull to stone, and Skrulls have complete control of there molecular structre.
No he wasn't.Death gave him an upgrade.Death gave him the upgrade before Thanos Quest,IG,IW,IC in Rebirth of Thanos, so power the same lvl during them as when Drax killed him in Annihilation.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Is this in the rules?And if it is then whats the freaking point of adaption?
Yes these are the rules. Go ask Bada or PR if you please but these are the rules. If they weren't Thanos would be even more powerful on here.. Imagine if someone as smart as Thanos could come back with knowledge of their first encounter or second etc etc... That would make him better.
As far as adaptation goes... If you can adapt on the fly during battle.. then you can... but once you're put down you come back with no knowledge of the first fight nor any adaptations from it.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I think that the writers intended to show how tremendously hard it was for Superman, individually, to take on an Imperiex probe early on... and reinforced that when an Imperiex Probe wrecked the JLA...... and that got all thrown out the window by the time Black Lightning, outfitted Hippolyta, Superman and H/P Doomsday started pwning them left and right.
I've seen that happen too often in comics to let it pass without raising an eyebrow. And my eyebrow be raised... at least with respect to that particular feat.
You also forgot to add that the weakest version of Supergirl stalemated one.
With that said I guess she is above top tier as well.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't think you quite understand how the fights work here on KMC... They aren't one continuous on going match.. Where they pick up where they left off from the last battle with knowledge of the first encounter.. The next fight starts out as a totally new battle with no prior knowledge of the previous fights.
"The Battle
Due to some confusion, I will highlight this now. Unless otherwise specified in the opening post, the matches are one fight. The use of a character winning 7/10 is just to highlight a percentage or odds. There has never been anything in the rules which states there are 10 separate fights."