Woohoo, official off-topic thread!

Originally posted by General Kaliero
There's no evidence at all that TP Zelda can fight. Ganon fights using her body as a puppet, but there was no actual skill in that, either technical or Zelda's own. Midna survived because of TP Zelda, but countless Hylians survived as a result of OoT Zelda's work as Sheik.

OoT Zelda is far superior to the TP version.

1. So she held a sword just to look cute? You are the one who said she assisted Link at 1/4 of the final battle.

2. People were killed in OoT including the king. It was Impa who saved the people. Zelda played the role as Link's informant. TP Zelda was smart enough to surrender to prevent casulaties.

Originally posted by Peach
OoT Zelda kicked serious ass

Is that why she was like, "Oh Link, save me!" when two Stalfos showed up in the same room with her?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
1. So she held a sword just to look cute? You are the one who said she assisted Link at 1/4 of the final battle.

2. People were killed in OoT including the king. It was Impa who saved the people. Zelda played the role as Link's informant. TP Zelda was smart enough to surrender to prevent casulaties.

Is that why she was like, "Oh Link, save me!" when two Stalfos showed up in the same room with her?

Instead, her first action with the sword is to drop it to the floor.

She assisted Link by firing arrows that stunned Ganondorf so Link could get him. Even WW Zelda assisted more than that. OoT Zelda actually finished off Ganon, attacking him direstly to entrap him in the Sacred Realm.

OoT Zelda did far more than just give Link information. She personally saved Princess Ruto, and sought out the locations of hidden sages and temples herself. TP Zelda, in contrast, surrendered without a fight after her guards had already been taken down. Zant still subjugated Hyrule and trapped its inhabitants in the Twilight, as he had intended. TP Zelda's surrender saved no life but her own.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I always thought the guy was an intelligent poster, though I've only seen him in one or two threads. Meh.

The guy spent at least three pages in this Off Topic thread arguing with General Kaliero, ScreamPaste, and me about Zelda. And he's never played a Zelda game. He just went with what he read in various Zelda wikis.

She's okay

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Instead, her first action with the sword is to drop it to the floor.

She assisted Link by firing arrows that stunned Ganondorf so Link could get him. Even WW Zelda assisted more than that. OoT Zelda actually finished off Ganon, attacking him direstly to entrap him in the Sacred Realm.

OoT Zelda did far more than just give Link information. She personally saved Princess Ruto, and sought out the locations of hidden sages and temples herself. TP Zelda, in contrast, surrendered without a fight after her guards had already been taken down. Zant still subjugated Hyrule and trapped its inhabitants in the Twilight, as he had intended. TP Zelda's surrender saved no life but her own.

1. OoT Zelda needed the help of 6 other sages to accomplish that.

2. Zant threatened to kill the people of Hyrule. That's why she surrendered. There were no casulaties; they just became disembodied and soon returned to normal after Ganondorf's defeat.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The guy spent at least three pages in this Off Topic thread arguing with General Kaliero, ScreamPaste, and me about Zelda.

As for KH, KH2 is very much superior IMHO. There is far more variety in the gameplay, the story is much less cheesy, it is more difficult (A plus IMO), and stuff.

As for which Zelda is best, WW is best. Unarguably. Every other Zelda is at best nothing more than your archetypical matriarchial guide, having nothing worthy of note in terms of character, Tetra went beyond that and actually had a likable character, rather than the chick who you just have to rescue.

Also, OoT Zelda is being massively overestimated. 😬 She planned for Link to gather the Spiritual Stones, this is true...Which only brought them to Ganondorf, which allowed him to kill her father and gain the Triforce. Not exactly as planned. Her tossing the Ocarina to Link was nothing more than good timing and a spur of the moment act, she was not proven to plan it, she just saw him and gave it to him while on the run from Ganon, which, you guessed it, also brought him to the Triforce. She spent the next seven years on the run, hiding from Ganon with her only note-worthy act being the rescue of Ruto...She never kicked any ass, and once she revealed herself, guess what happened? She was immediately captured by Ganondorf. As for this learning how to be a Sheikah...Lol? Why, because she can escape (From nothing, she was not being pursued...) with the use of Deku Nuts? Oh and she wears their clothes...Yeah, I guess that is pretty leet...Not. 😐 She and all of the Sages were only able to do anything was Ganon was already grievously injured.

Other than that, we have absolutely no idea what she did as Sheik.

TP Zelda surrendered because it was obvious that her armies were going to lose, they were treated as toys by Zant and his Twilight army, so she gave herself up in order to save the lives of her people. Her other noteworthy acts in the game are saving Midna's life by sacrificing her own, and aiding in the battle against Ganon.

OoT Zelda in terms of accomplishments is nothing special, and although her's are greater than TP Zelda, she also has less blunders, although I will admit she is better by a minute amount.

Also DMC sucks.

Originally posted by NemeBro

As for KH, KH2 is very much superior IMHO. There is far more variety in the gameplay, the story is much less cheesy, it is more difficult (A plus IMO), and stuff.

Do you think so? (KH2 was harder than KH1)

I think i would agree, were it not for the reaction commands. They enable you to dodge, evade and cause such high damage, that take away what would otherwise be a very challenging fight.

For me the bosses:

Kurt Zisa
Phantom (admittedly allot easier once you get how this fight works)
and the Ice Titan

Are far harder than any bosses i can think of in KH2.

That and Sephiroth in KH1 is just..... recklessly hard, KH2 is a serious pushover in comparison.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Do you think so? (KH2 was harder than KH1)

I think i would agree, were it not for the reaction commands. They enable you to dodge, evade and cause such high damage, that take away what would otherwise be a very challenging fight.

For me the bosses:

Kurt Zisa
Phantom (admittedly allot easier once you get how this fight works)
and the Ice Titan

Are far harder than any bosses i can think of in KH2.

That and Sephiroth in KH1 is just..... recklessly hard, KH2 is a serious pushover in comparison.

And Xaldin is arguably as hard as any of them, and IMO Luxord is even harder.

Xaldin? I thought the second to the last boss was hard.(or I wasn't in a sufficient level)

The Path is a pretty screwed up game. The entire goal seems to be to get the worst ending possible. I love it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I was thinking storyline bosses honestly.

And Xaldin is arguably as hard as any of them, and IMO Luxord is even harder.

Hmmm, well i guess.

Though I've never had a problem with Xaldin, allot of people say Xaldin was the hardest but honestly, the only guy that was ever a pain was Demyx and his damn water clone spamming.

Luxord i always beat by mistake 🙂 I've play the game si- too many times and i still barely know what i'm doing.

Took me weeks to get Kurt Zisa down. That guy is the definition of Mendokuse. Though an extremely fun fight. I had to learn to use summons just to stand a chance again him. Which made me pleased there were bosses that forced you to be good at all aspects of the game, and understand it completely to stand a chance. Haven't fought a boss as hard as him since actually.

Sorry Neme, I guess I forgot about you though.

Tetra being likable is extremely opinionated. I hate her guts.

But I hate Midna more.

As for KH1 vs KH2, I like both about the same. I like the Special Abilities, Keyblades, and Donald and Goofy better in KH1. But I prefer KH2's combat system mostly because Magic got way better, the synthesis is better, and Valor form is pure win.

I like the stories about the same too. But KH2 has better levels. It doesn't force me to swim around in that damn Atlantica place for an entire level.

Oh, I have also done everything in KH1 except beat the Phantom and get the Ultima Weapon. Mystery Goos suck.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
But I hate Midna more.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Sorry Neme, I guess I forgot about you though.

But I hate Midna more.

Why hate the best thing to happen to LOZ?

Originally posted by Phanteros
Why hate the best thing to happen to LOZ?

I don't hate A Link to the Past. That's my favorite Zelda game.

You know what else is better than Legend of Zelda? God of War.

YouTube video

Just pretend Helios is Link and it'll be more enjoyable 🙂

No one cares about Kratos.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Why hate the best thing to happen to LOZ?

I already said I don't hate A Link to the Past.

If I were to acknowledge what he actually meant, I'd say Midna isn't even close to the best thing to happen to Zelda, and there is not a single reason for me to even treat her like she's worth the shit Miyamoto was taking when he thought of her.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
No one cares about Kratos.

This.

May Zeus strike you with lightning for saying such heresy.

What best thing? Truth be told, I've seen mostly crap on those games and not even the power of the Triforce can make me like that franchise.