Woohoo, official off-topic thread!

So those that have a different view of God are ignorant? Simply because in their eyes God is more or less than what he is portraited as in the Bible? The church is not as powerful as you suggest it to be. It can not force people to view Christianity and other religions as it wills, only attempt to guide people alongside it and try make them share its view.

And how is that last point of yours any different from what I have been saying? If I interpreted it properly, you are saying that God has taken every possible form that someone would want to pray to.

Originally posted by Phantom Miria
[b]So those that have a different view of God are ignorant? Simply because in their eyes God is more or less than what he is portraited as in the Bible? The church is not as powerful as you suggest it to be. It can not force people to view Christianity and other religions as it wills, only attempt to guide people alongside it and try make them share its view.

And how is that last point of yours any different from what I have been saying? If I interpreted it properly, you are saying that God has taken every possible form that someone would want to pray to. [/B]

Who is a Christian yet has a different view of God than in the bible or in the christian religion? that would not make sense. It cant can it? then how do you explain the crusades? the Church can make people do what it wants them to do, even against the commandments as long as it specifies who a man can kill without going against Gods will....the same is simliar today to a lesser extent. It controls the actions of people or who they pray to. They dont have to try very hard if their target is for example young children who are easily susceptable. Who in turn would influence their own children etc etc.

Well then your agreeing with me, the Church as an organisation has covered all these forms, as you said, who would want to pray to someone who does not help you in any way? (or if were talking about fear, who cannot destroy you in every way). The answer is nobody, problem is if your Christian in the first place your not going to suddenly think of a different type of God to what is portrayed.

I bet Jesus turned over in his grave while you wrote that. Probably cringed too.

I didnt think Jesus had a grave, was he not revived during Easter?

Although a priest would imply Jesus'/Gods displeasure in an attempt to instill the wrath of God in me. Or he would say, "God works in mysterious ways".

Yesterday BT told me I had a reading problem.

You did miss somehing, why what did I miss?

Originally posted by Burning thought
I didnt think Jesus had a grave, was he not revived during Easter?

Although a priest would imply Jesus'/Gods displeasure in an attempt to instill the wrath of God in me. Or he would say, "God works in mysterious ways".

Are you daft or just pretending to be?

Certainly daft 😉

"Christain" has become a very relative term anyway.

Catholics are Christain, but so are Methodists, Baptists, Neo Evangelicals, Presbyterians, Mormons, etc.

You really need to elaborate on which group you are referring to, because they are not all the same.

Probably Catholics simply because their the group I hear of the most but I have only heard the names of the rest, whats the difference between them relative to my point?

Catholics believe things like the Deity of Mary, while other groups believe that Mary was a good woman who was the mother of Jesus, but nothing more, for example.

So their only small differences or something then? nothing that would influence my point that the Church as an organisation is simply a controller (opium of the masses) who influence people and control with religion simply being their basis.

No, nothing that big, although I believe that it's a personal choice to believe in a faith. Anyone who is just doing it out of tradition or some such reason deserves to be to be controlled or lead along like a lamb to the slaughter.

Ah well, as I said before, choice is a hard thing to gauge. One person may belive they have a choice when really, the decision they make is massively influenced by other things and people who want them to follow their lead so to speak.

or

jesus is real and all you heathen gay loving people and liberals and burning thoughts' are going to burn in hell for all eternity and suffer forever.

as a peace loving christian, i would like that. 🙂

😛

Thats also another good point. So much for choice, if you dont belive in him or worship him or fear his wrath you get done over for eternity for your most greivous sin!

So i can either choose to worship who I want assuming I have faith or need it but burn forever in agony if I do not choose God.... what a wonderful religion 🙄

Originally posted by Burning thought
Thats also another good point. So much for choice, if you dont belive in him or worship him or fear his wrath you get done over for eternity for your most greivous sin!

So i can either choose to worship who I want assuming I have faith or need it but burn forever in agony if I do not choose God.... what a wonderful religion 🙄

Hey, that's Christianity for ya.

How darest sayest thus??!! thou art shall be smited!

Originally posted by Burning thought
How darest sayest thus??!! thou art shall be smited!

Smitten with unconditional love and understanding to the deepest bowels of Hell.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
or

jesus is real and all you heathen gay loving people and liberals and burning thoughts' are going to burn in hell for all eternity and suffer forever.

as a peace loving christian, i would like that. 🙂

😛

eh... probably just burning thought the rest might get off without going to hell.

Edit: the choice given is still a choice even if one is to burn in hell forever. If anyone would like to argue theology however I can pull some scripture that would support a third fate rather than heaven or hell.