Originally posted by Nemesis X
An insult? Why, because most of the guys look like they're on roids? Most soldiers would need to work out if they're in a war.Nobody gives a $#!+ about Legend of Zelda. See what I did there?
Because Gears sucks.
Yeah. Except that statement is so utterly wrong, it makes you look even MOAR sad and pathetic then before.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
An insult? Why, because most of the guys look like they're on roids? Most soldiers would need to work out if they're in a war.Nobody gives a $#!+ about Legend of Zelda. See what I did there?
Sure as hell not like that, though.
I have Zelda save files that are older than you, kid. Gears can't even dream of holding a candle to the Zelda series.
Originally posted by NemeBro
But Litnin was all dissin' Snow's idealism and whatnot.Which is why I liked him. 😐 Contrasted great with previous male FF protagonists.
Yeah, that game had great characters.
Lightning reminded me of Lulu a lot, and Lulu is my favorite FF character ever, so yeah.
Originally posted by Peach
Samus. Lightning. Zelda would be if they'd make a game where she is the actual protagonist. Farah. Elika. Faith. Midna. Amaterasu. Yuna developed into one over the course of the game. Most of the female characters in Soul Calibur, despite their appearances. Garnet/Dagger.Outside of games...
Princess Leia. Arwen, at least in the first half of LOTR. Alanna, Kel, Daine, Thayet, Aly, Dove, and Sarai from the Tortall series by Tamora Pierce; Sandry, Daja, and Tris from the Emelan books by the same author. Trinity. Hermione Granger. Ginny Weasley. Sailormoon (all of the Senshi, really).
Those are just some off the top of my head.
Originally posted by Nemesis XDo you have any idea what real soldiers look like? Nothing like that.
An insult? Why, because most of the guys look like they're on roids? Most soldiers would need to work out if they're in a war.
But being gigantic and muscular is not what bothers me, for slightly fetishistic reasons I usually like that in male characters. 😐
Men in Gears of War are nothing but macho meatheads whose only two emotions are gruff indifference or RAGE.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
An insult? Why, because most of the guys look like they're on roids? Most soldiers would need to work out if they're in a war.Nobody gives a $#!+ about Legend of Zelda. See what I did there?
Also, your personal Zelda hatred doesn't make the series any less phenomenally better than Gears of War.
Originally posted by PeachI actually did like Lightning, and Sazh is mah favorite character, along with Snow. Looking like an aged Jimmy Hendrix helps.
Yeah, that game had great characters.Lightning reminded me of Lulu a lot, and Lulu is my favorite FF character ever, so yeah.
I liked Lulu as well. Being incredibly hot helped, but yeah. 😐
Hm, I actually liked all three of the girls in X. X also had pretty good characters.
Though I did not like Tidus and would prefer Wakka be dead. 😐
Originally posted by NemeBro
Do you have any idea what real soldiers look like? Nothing like that.But being gigantic and muscular is not what bothers me, for slightly fetishistic reasons I usually like that in male characters. 😐
Men in Gears of War are nothing but macho meatheads whose only two emotions are gruff indifference or RAGE.
No no no, you've got it all wrong.
They're MANLY MEN™.
(that was sarcastic, by the way)
Originally posted by NemeBro
I actually did like Lightning, and Sazh is mah favorite character, along with Snow. Looking like an aged Jimmy Hendrix helps.I liked Lulu as well. Being incredibly hot helped, but yeah. 😐
Hm, I actually liked all three of the girls in X. X also had pretty good characters.
Though I did not like Tidus and would prefer Wakka be dead. 😐
Tidus did develop pretty well over the course of the game. I started out hating both him and Yuna, but by the end, had to admit they turned out quite decent. And I love Rikku. I was very saddened and angered by them turning her from a cheery mechanical genius to a braindead ditz in FFX-2.
You're missing the point. You say that nobody gives a crap about Gears of War meaning you literally think that everybody in the world doesn't like it and yet with so many purchases of copies, that pretty much puts a dent in your statement. Hell, even if only one person (me) liked it, it still puts a dent. Gears of War is very well liked and I only compared Legend of Zelda because it's a popular franchise and when I say that nobody cares about it, that means I'm just plain bull$#!++ing. What do you think you're doing when you're saying nobody gives a crap about Gears of War?
Originally posted by Nemesis X
You're missing the point. You say that nobody gives a crap about Gears of War meaning you literally think that everybody in the world doesn't like it and yet with so many purchases of copies, that pretty much puts a dent in your statement. Hell, even if only one person (me) liked it, it still puts a dent. Gears of War is very well liked and I only compared Legend of Zelda because it's a popular franchise and when I say that nobody cares about it, that means I'm just plain bull$#!++ing. What do you think you're doing when you're saying nobody gives a crap about Gears of War?
Originally posted by PeachYahtzee actually once illustrated the difference between a manly character and a "macho" character pretty well in his Extra Punctuation column once, may go find it.
No no no, you've got it all wrong.They're [b]MANLY MEN™
.(that was sarcastic, by the way)
Tidus did develop pretty well over the course of the game. I started out hating both him and Yuna, but by the end, had to admit they turned out quite decent. And I love Rikku. I was very saddened and angered by them turning her from a cheery mechanical genius to a braindead ditz in FFX-2. [/B]
Eh. Tidus I will admit was a thought-out and well-developed character, but that does not mean I have to like him. In that regard, he is like Shinji from Evangelion. To me at least.
Oh and I HATED X-2. Blatant fanservice game is blatant fanservice game.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yahtzee actually once illustrated the difference between a manly character and a "macho" character pretty well in his Extra Punctuation column once, may go find it.Eh. Tidus I will admit was a thought-out and well-developed character, but that does not mean I have to like him. In that regard, he is like Shinji from Evangelion. To me at least.
Oh and I HATED X-2. Blatant fanservice game is blatant fanservice game.
Oh, I know there's a difference. The sort of stereotype that Gears plays off of is extremely irritating, though.
And yeah, I still don't like Tidus or Yuna, even though I'll recognize that they go through some amazing character development over the course of the game.
Most of the time I refuse to acknowledge FFX-2's existence.
While Gears is pretty lame and uninteresting, I think you guys are reflexively exaggerating it's crappiness in reaction to Nemmies monumental wrongness about everything.
I don't really see how any of the Gears are really stereotype enforcing, aside from maybe Baird and the Cole Train. The only "stereotype" you could really attribute to Dom or Marcus are that they look like they're on roids and are tough. But if that was the case... all video game characters suck.
Imo, Gears suffers from the same problem as characters in the PT. They have actual personalities and some layers of depth, it's just shown in a really ineffective way. It's hard to realize that Marcus is actually affected by all the war and death around him when only 2% of his scenes involve a sorrowful expression or dialogue, while the other 98% consists of "**** yeah! Get back in your hole, *****!"
Originally posted by PeachIndeed. For a good example of a manly character, look at Jecht, also from X. Manly enough to cut the leg off of a giant elephant in a drunken stupor, but possessing character flaws and regrets. You know, so he somewhat resembles a human being.
Oh, I know there's a difference. The sort of stereotype that Gears plays off of is extremely irritating, though.And yeah, I still don't like Tidus or Yuna, even though I'll recognize that they go through some amazing character development over the course of the game.
Most of the time I refuse to acknowledge FFX-2's existence.
I do kinda like Yuna, but now that I think about it cannot really remember why. 😐 When I am done achievement whoring my 360 may replay X.
Indeed, DESTROYED the ending to the first game.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanSo cold indifference, right?
While Gears is pretty lame and uninteresting, I think you guys are reflexively exaggerating it's crappiness in reaction to Nemmies monumental wrongness about everything.I don't really see how any of the Gears are really stereotype enforcing, aside from maybe Baird and the Cole Train. The only "stereotype" you could really attribute to Dom or Marcus are that they look like they're on roids and are tough. Btu if that was the case... all video game characters suck.
