Originally posted by Peach
They would but I believe there's a point where it stops being relevant. It's been a long time since I had physics, though.And hey, I was only driving for one of those, and even that one I was deemed legally not at fault by the police that came to make the report - I got cut off while trying to change lanes, and since there was fresh snow on the ground I slid instead of stopped. I was going 20 mph before I started braking, I was barely moving when I did actually hit the other car 😛
Still jinxed both cars. The police came for that tap?
Originally posted by Burning thought
Bump Dante vs Kain for the new information?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is there anyone who thinks an attack at a superspeed won't have increased force or am I just missing the full context of what you were talking about Rain?
Oh yeah there was a bomb down my road, viewing distance from my window. Damn police wouldn't let me get closer 😬
You did not actually prove your point so I dont know why your trying to act like theres been any failure other than your own. You simply said its impossibel to show something, whats this based on? your saying that if in a game set on Earth you see people bouncing off walls randomly as if gravity does not excist but you would simply say theres no lack of gravity because the game did not actually state it?
I think thats the logic fault from you.
Originally posted by Burning thought
You did not actually prove your point so I dont know why your trying to act like theres been any failure other than your own. You simply said its impossibel to show something, whats this based on? your saying that if in a game set on Earth you see people bouncing off walls randomly as if gravity does not excist but you would simply say theres no lack of gravity because the game did not actually state it?I think thats the logic fault from you.
If it is a property of the entirety of the planet, and not the cause of some identified outside influence, logic dictates that the lack of gravity is a constant for this world.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Curse ye game physics -o-Still jinxed both cars. The police came for that tap?
Yeah, still called to make a report. Figured that it'd be for the best to do so.
Originally posted by Burning thought
You did not actually prove your point so I dont know why your trying to act like theres been any failure other than your own. You simply said its impossibel to show something, whats this based on? your saying that if in a game set on Earth you see people bouncing off walls randomly as if gravity does not excist but you would simply say theres no lack of gravity because the game did not actually state it?I think thats the logic fault from you.
Seeing someone 'bounce off the walls as if there's no gravity' is an explicit display of there either being no gravity, or a lesser amount than is on earth. And even with that, it may not be universal for that setting. Don't be so obtuse.
What if none of those is answered? what if their bouncing around as if gravity did not excist and there was no answer within the fiction?
A 5ft tall man picks up a skyscraper on his head and stands there smiling...
Would you not for once question that perhaps certain boundries in the fiction were being pushed when physics were concerned?
Originally posted by Peach
Seeing someone 'bounce off the walls as if there's no gravity' is an explicit display of there either being no gravity, or a lesser amount than is on earth. And even with that, it may not be universal for that setting. Don't be so obtuse.
😆 but Peach! its impossibel to show a lack of something...the world actually has to say...
Originally posted by General Kaliero
It is explicitly impossible to show a lack of something. Logic fault, and horrible failure of debate.
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Originally posted by Burning thought
What if none of those is answered? what if their bouncing around as if gravity did not excist and there was no answer within the fiction?A 5ft tall man picks up a skyscraper on his head and stands there smiling...
Would you not for once question that perhaps certain boundries in the fiction were being pushed when physics were concerned?
😆 but Peach! its impossibel to show a lack of something...the world actually has to say...
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It works in reverse, too. If nothing explicitly shows that a universal property is distinctly different from our Earthlike norm, we assume logically that it is similar.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
If no explicit explanation is given, then logically we are forced to conclude that it is a universal constant. People can bounce around because in this universe ("universe" being area, planet, realm, etc., the farthest logical point to extend the property in question) gravity is simply lesser.It works in reverse, too. If nothing explicitly shows that a universal property is distinctly different from our Earthlike norm, we assume logically that it is similar.
Which is what I do, infact to a lesser degree because I say its a constant of one portion of a game rather than its "universal constant" which would counter most powers in said game as toonforce. Why are you trying to argue this if technically we agree?
Your kinda going back on your last point that something cant be shown so you were wrong.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Of course it would. How do people think The Flash hurts people? He has human strength or peak human strength I believe yet he can hurt people a lot stronger and more durable than him.
Actually, as we're speaking of collision (the actual strike) it'd be impulse you're looking for, where I = FΔt, or the force over the interval of time the collision occurs.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Which is what I do, infact to a lesser degree because I say its a constant of one portion of a game rather than its "universal constant" which would counter most powers in said game as toonforce. Why are you trying to argue this if technically we agree?Your kinda going back on your last point that something cant be shown so you were [b]wrong.
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Originally posted by General Kaliero
Not so, you are clearly misunderstanding me. Showing people bouncing around is explicitly showing a difference in the game's physics, as I stated would be the case. To stop being hypothetical, normal people (the Carpenters in Kakariko) are shown to exhibit normal humanlike force, arrows arc in a relatively Earthlike fashion, water flows in an Earthlike manner. Hyrule the world shows universal physical laws that are Earthlike, therefore Link's feats of strength are not a universal property, they are an individual property.
This is where you misunderstand it, if this one aspect of people bouncing off walls without gravity for example is enough to bend physics in your view (true) then clearly, Hyrule which shows something for example, Link doing something physically impossible obviously displays the specific area to not be of realistic physics.
Explain how something being individual or universal makes a difference when my point is that if somethings illogical/against physics its unviable to physics/accurate math to determine it?
Originally posted by Burning thought
This is where you misunderstand it, if this one aspect of people bouncing off walls without gravity for example is enough to bend physics in your view (true) then clearly, Hyrule which shows something for example, Link doing something physically impossible obviously displays the specific area to not be of realistic physics.Explain how something being individual or universal makes a difference when my point is that if somethings illogical/against physics its unviable to physics/accurate math to determine it?
Because Link shows a feat of strength, does not mean everyone in Hyrule can exhibit that same strength. Ergo, if it an individual property of Link, not a universal property, your "toonforce" claim is as invalid as it always has been, and Link is simply as strong as his feats demonstrate.