Ohlook, MG's using Cruddace as a source as if he matters. Yeah, letting an IG player write the guard dex made a whole lot of sense. /Eyeroll.
Feel free to ignore that the Tyranids are currently successfully advancing on every major faction that can be advanced upon with a scouting fleet. Twenty chapters? I raise you dozens. IE, minimum 24, that's 4000 more spehss marines ontop of the thousands more IG regiments fighting the Tyranids than fought Ghaz.
Oh, and the Tyranids have eaten atleast 12 galaxies already. Good ****ing luck to the Imperium should they ever show up in force. They can barely handle scouting fleets.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Getting destroyed every time by factions that aren't using even 1/one billionth (that's being generous) of it's total strength is not an impressive feat, and isn't very succesful.Eating 12 empty galaxies is also not an impressive feat. gg!
Also, the 1/billionth thing is vastly inaccurate, since the entire population of the Imperium only numbers in the trillions, you'd require one in a hundred of it's citizens to be in the imperial guard for that number to work, and regiments to be tiny, and single regiments to stop the Tyranids, that doesn't happen. It took the entire Ultima segmentum to stop Behemoth, and the Imperium had the assistance of the Eldar to stop Kraken.
Leviathan is taking them both successfully.
Eating twelve galaxies is a lot of biomass, enough to ensure that if the Tyranids showed in force, a billion times the resistance they've previously been shown wouldn't be enough. haermm Leviathan is a scouting fleet, and the surviving tendril is 1/3rd the width of the milky way. That's half the original force, since a lucky discovery allowed the Imperium to kill off a Norn Queen.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ohlook, MG's using Cruddace as a source as if he matters. Yeah, letting an IG player write the guard dex made a whole lot of sense. /Eyeroll.Feel free to ignore that the Tyranids are currently successfully advancing on every major faction that can be advanced upon with a scouting fleet. Twenty chapters? I raise you [b]dozens
. IE, minimum 24, that's 4000 more spehss marines ontop of the thousands more IG regiments fighting the Tyranids than fought Ghaz.Oh, and the Tyranids have eaten atleast 12 galaxies already. Good ****ing luck to the Imperium should they ever show up in force. They can barely handle scouting fleets. [/B]
Its still lore
That hive fleet is spread out all over the imperiums under belly of course it takes the raising of dozens of chapters to combat it in multiple areas but ive never seen it take more then 2 or 3 chapters on a single planet to wipe out said hive fleet assault. Also you should know that the space marines NEVER sent out all 12 companys. they always at least leave one company behind so maybe at most thats 900 space marines or something like that. However I doubt theyre planning on sending more then 3 maybe 4 companys to fight the tyranids.
Idk I would say the scout fleets have been handled pretty well so far. You have how many left. The only one I can thing of who has managed to actually do a decent amount of stuff is levithan. As for there entire force theres two things about that.
If that ever happens it wont matter because all the necrons will have of woke up. We also dont know exactly how large the difference is between the main fleet and the so called scouting fleet. It might be as big as you like to imagine when you have those lustfull dreams about your tyranids. :# Though it also might not be that much bigger maybe double the size of the scouting fleets. Which would be pretty large yes but again if that ever happens all the other races would also get there *Big guns* like the emperor coming back or just the 5 or so primarchs who are said to be healing, gone, or lost somewhere like in the webway or the eye of terror.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
[B]Except the Tyranids have only been dealt damaging defeats twice, and are the most successful Xeno race to assault the Imperium.
The Tyranid have lost every single engagement they've engaged in, sans Leviathin's stalemate against the Orks, and some of those losses have been downright embarrassing on their part. A major defeat versus a minor one is relative, but a defeat is a defeat.
Also, the 1/billionth thing is vastly inaccurate,
It's not inaccurate. The 5th edition IG codex states that there are "billions", plural, billions, of regiments, with each regiment containing at least a thousand men, some containing over a hundred thousand men (reference for billions: The infantry squad section of the 5E IG codex).
Besides, how can you say that the Imperium in it's entirety only has 1 trillion people in it, when Ichar 5, alone had a population of 500 billion?
It took the entire Ultima segmentum to stop Behemoth,
It took the Ultramarines and the PDF of Macragge to annhilate Behemoth, and no other additional forces.
and the Imperium had the assistance of the Eldar to stop Kraken.
They didn't have assistance. A single tendril from Kraken unwittingly ran into Iyanden and Iyanden destroyed it. The large majority of Kraken was destroyed solely by the Ultramarines and the PDF on Ichar 5.
Leviathan is taking them both successfully.
Leviathan is fighting barely a fraction of the Imperium, for one. For two, it's hardly a 3v1 fight, like you seem to think it is. According to the codex, the Eldar are killing everyone they come up against in trying to put down Leviathin, Imperium, Tyranid, and Ork alike. It's a free for all more than anything.
Eating twelve galaxies is a lot of biomass, enough to ensure that if the Tyranids showed in force, a billion times the resistance they've previously been shown wouldn't be enough. haermm Leviathan is a scouting fleet, and the surviving tendril is 1/3rd the width of the milky way. That's half the original force, since a lucky discovery allowed the Imperium to kill off a Norn Queen.They'll be crushed under the Imperial boot. A trillion trillion Leviathans aren't man enough to take out even the Templars de Negro, much less the combined might of mankind. Haven't you seen every movie ever? Humanity always wins.
Originally posted by Cyner
you guys sound just like the battletech **** I used to talk to(and be).Clan or Innersphere, Steiner or Davion, Wolf or Jade Falcon, Gray Death Legion or Wolf's Dragoons, Battle of Tukayyid, Battle of Luthien, etc.
take this faggotry to it's own thread/chatroom/emails/facebook. DO NOT WANT
Its still lorePoorly written lore which allows normal humans to be class 100+.
That hive fleet is spread out all over the imperiums under belly of course it takes the raising of dozens of chapters to combat it in multiple areas but ive never seen it take more then 2 or 3 chapters on a single planet to wipe out said hive fleet assault
Idk I would say the scout fleets have been handled pretty well so far.Through repeated biomass denial and united efforts on a large scale on the last two, this one's doing significantly better.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanI dunno man.
Chaos will whip dat Necron ass and ultimately corrupt the Imperium like a black man in an all white girl chastity club.
Nothing that exists in 40k can match a fully repowered Nightbringer or Void Dragon on the Material plane, short of like, the God Emperor himself probably.
Oh yeah whats your reasoning behind why kraken was destroyed by an eldar craftworld.
Also you keep forgetting levithands main stratagy was to attack the imperium in one of its weakest spots which it did, and it spread itself out over a broad frontage as your codex says. So yeah dozens of space marine chapters are needed to fight it on multiple worlds. Again its winning because the imperium has just started to learn about it thanks to inquistor kryptman and a bit of fate. lol Though yeah thats mostly why its advanced so far if you dont believe me read your own codex about it.
Also you said yourself biomass denial just makes them not able to replinsh lost numbers. The ultramarines didnt fight them until they got to there own planet that I know of maybe they fought them a few times in space. Also united effort of what PDF forces the people BELOW GUARDSMEN. yeah I bet they were pretty useful lol
Also shane the chaos gods are likely as strong as the necron gods, and they would unite to stop the necrons just like they did the god emperor all those years ago...
Also sorry cyner BUT 40K MATTERS THIS MUCH YOU DONT EVEN KNOW.
Originally posted by NemeBroWell, it was the forces of Chaos that forced the C'Tan into stasis in the first place. If the immaterum can beat the C'Tan when they were at the height of their power, I think they can do so now.
I dunno man.Nothing that exists in 40k can match a fully repowered Nightbringer or Void Dragon on the Material plane, short of like, the God Emperor himself probably.
Originally posted by mechagoombaBut the Chaos Gods have no physical presence on the Materium, similar to how the C'Tan have none on the Warp.
Also shane the chaos gods are likely as strong as the necron gods, and they would unite to stop the necrons just like they did the god emperor all those years ago...
I fully believe that the Chaos Gods and the C'Tan are roughly equals, they are pretty much the antithesis of eachother.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Well, it was the forces of Chaos that forced the C'Tan into stasis in the first place. If the immaterum can beat the C'Tan when they were at the height of their power, I think they can do so now.
Uh the forces of chaos werent actually even around then.
It was that war that MADE the warp into the hell it currently is.
The gods were still there technically but they werent yet formed.
Oh yeah whats your reasoning behind why kraken was destroyed by an eldar craftworld.Only one tendril of it was.
Also you keep forgetting levithands main stratagy was to attack the imperium in one of its weakest spots which it did, and it spread itself out over a broad frontage as your codex says. So yeah dozens of space marine chapters are needed to fight it on multiple worlds. Again its winning because the imperium has just started to learn about it thanks to inquistor kryptman and a bit of fate. lol Though yeah thats mostly why its advanced so far if you dont believe me read your own codex about it.
Also you said yourself biomass denial just makes them not able to replinsh lost numbers. The ultramarines didnt fight them until they got to there own planet that I know of maybe they fought them a few times in space. Also united effort of what PDF forces the people BELOW GUARDSMEN. yeah I bet they were pretty useful lol