Originally posted by TheAuraAngelThe reason these guys don't go for redemption is because of pride or an obsession with power basically. If you want redemption and are genuine I don't believe anyone is beyond it. Now the likelihood of these evil characters feeling this way is one thing but if they were sincere I don't think anyone is beyond redemption.
The only time a truly evil character would need to change their mind would be when they are on the verge of defeat. At that point, it is pretty obvious they are lying through their teeth and will do it again though.Ganondorf just needs to stop trying though. Not as badly as Bowser, obviously.
Look at Anakin that evil slime. Just because he hip tossed palp and was remorseful he got to hang out the ewoks.
Redemption is being saved from evil. Truly evil characters do not see the need to be saved.
Anakin is a fallen hero. And he was only redeemed based on circumstance. He arguably had good inside him buried beneath all that evil. Characters like Ganon clearly don't.
Also, redemption from a religious sense is very possible. But I can't judge who a God would redeem and how he decides. People on the other hand, do not care about saving people from evil to such an extent.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelI agree they probably won't feel genuinely sorry outside for themselves but if they were genuine that even someone as scumy as Freddy Krueger could be redeemed. Even dorf would blush at Freddy's evil.
Redemption is being saved from evil. Truly evil characters do not see the need to be saved.
Freddy has no redeeming qualities and would never want redemption though. Actually, he couldn't be redeemed even if he wanted. He is, basically by word of god, pure evil.
I would actually agree to Freddy being more evil. What with him being the one true host of a being of complete evil that he comes to life and kills the actors of his movies. Or tries to anyway.
Originally posted by The ScenarioNot really but someone like Freddy seems more evil than Dorf. Freddy to me seemed by far more evil than any of the horroc iconic villains. I used freddy to make my point that even someone more despicable than Dorf can be redeemed imo.
You trying to start something here? 😉
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelI never said he'd want it but if he did I see no one as beyond redemption. He'd have to atone sure but even he is not beyond forgiveness imo.
Freddy has no redeeming qualities and would never want redemption though. Actually, he couldn't be redeemed even if he wanted. He is, basically by word of god, pure evil.I would actually agree to Freddy being more evil. What with him being the one true host of a being of complete evil that he comes to life and kills the actors of his movies. Or tries to anyway.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Anakin is a fallen hero. And he was only redeemed based on circumstance. He arguably had good inside him buried beneath all that evil.
Yep - otherwise he would not have been able to go back to the light side as he did at the end. He was a bastard, but he was also heavily manipulated.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelThey aren't beyond it then they are just too stubborn or they don't want it. It's about a choice and my argument wasn't whether they'd change their mind it was about if they did decide they would still be forgiven.
Someone who doesn't want it is in fact beyond redemption. Even someone who does want it can be by our standards.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Ash is a TV character, aimed primarily at children. The Pokemon Manga is still fairly kid friendly, but it's nowhere near the level of the anime.Ash is getting a bad rap because he's a tool to teach kids that sometimes you'll just fail but that doesn't mean you're supposed to quit.
Plus, everyone loves Team Rocket and Ash's trainer skills have been much more buffed lately.
And Gary Oak is a complete ****ing loser anyway, so nobody really cares about Ash's rival.
Originally posted by ares834
[B]One of the worst articles I have ever read...If you are going to ***** and moan about Boss fights don't use Zelda or MGS as some of your examples...
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Is not in effect since I am not comparing his beliefs to those of the Nazis. 😛I'll change it to the leaders of Japan at the time. Content? >_>
Considering America did give Japanese leadership an overall light penalty, considering their crimes and compared to Germany...