I will die before my post is buried by ****ing Aura.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I feel like responding to this.While it is true that some symbolism perceived within a story was not intended by the author, this leads into a point that is often discussed and debated by those who study literature; that the emotions the work makes the reader feel and what they believe they represent overrides the author's intent.
For example, Isaac Asimov often told a story of a time he heard a lecture on a book of his, and he then told the professor that he enjoyed the lecture, though that was not what he had in mind when he wrote it. The professor responded with,""Just because you wrote it, what makes you think you have the slightest idea what it's about?""
For those who go to TV Tropes, this mindset is known as "Death of the Author". It proposes that the interpretation the author has on his own work is no more valid than that of the reader's, that the feelings and intentions of the writer have no relevance to the reader's own personal interpretation.
Personally, I believe that the "**** your symbolism" view stems from memories of annoying teachers who pushed symbolism that they disagreed with on them in school, my younger sister is currently feeling much of the same ire towards her teacher for doing this, which IMO is a sign of poor teaching. I believe that teachers should push their students towards coming up with their own personal interpretations of fiction, rather than push their own views on them.
tl;dr if you want beef then bring the ruckus, Wu Tang Clan ain't nuthin' to **** wit.
Originally posted by NemeBroI'm flattered that the inspirational post of manliness that I made earlier, the one that drove Bloodrain to tears due to its manliness, has inspired you to attempt to write a super inspirational, manly post of your own. With time and improvement, you may one day be able to mirror my excellence, my son.
I feel like responding to this.While it is true that some symbolism perceived within a story was not intended by the author, this leads into a point that is often discussed and debated by those who study literature; that the emotions the work makes the reader feel and what they believe they represent overrides the author's intent.
For example, Isaac Asimov often told a story of a time he heard a lecture on a book of his, and he then told the professor that he enjoyed the lecture, though that was not what he had in mind when he wrote it. The professor responded with,""Just because you wrote it, what makes you think you have the slightest idea what it's about?""
For those who go to TV Tropes, this mindset is known as "Death of the Author". It proposes that the interpretation the author has on his own work is no more valid than that of the reader's, that the feelings and intentions of the writer have no relevance to the reader's own personal interpretation.
Personally, I believe that the "**** your symbolism" view stems from memories of annoying teachers who pushed symbolism that they disagreed with on them in school, my younger sister is currently feeling much of the same ire towards her teacher for doing this, which IMO is a sign of poor teaching. I believe that teachers should push their students towards coming up with their own personal interpretations of fiction, rather than push their own views on them.
tl;dr if you want beef then bring the ruckus, Wu Tang Clan ain't nuthin' to **** wit.
Originally posted by Peach
I hate the whole "there's symbolism in everything!" thing teachers try to push on you in school. Sometimes it's just there cos the author liked it, it doesn't have any hidden meaning!
QFT
Everytime my teachers did that to me, I felt like throwing a book in their face. They even told me "you can't finish your assignment because you don't want to do it." If I found the ****ing meaning in the book, I would've written it already!
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'm flattered that the inspirational post of manliness that I made earlier, the one that drove Bloodrain to tears due to its manliness, has inspired you to attempt to write a super inspirational, manly post of your own. With time and improvement, you may one day be able to mirror my excellence, my son.
Your post was a hamfisted attempt to justify being a troll with "I'm not a troll I'm an ******* deal jerkwads kekekekekekekeke".
My post is the stuff of legends, the work of a genius whose mind is a labyrinthine enigma that gods can only take baby steps in grasping.
You are less than a mote of dust blowing in the wind compared to me, at least a dust mote may get in my eye and temporarily inconvenience me. Your attempts at depth and insight fall flat, more akin to an autistic toddler trying to **** its keyboard.
You are beneath me. You were always beneath me. You will always be beneath me.
Leave my sight, worm.