Originally posted by NemeBro
Both games had fairly shitty gameplay, DA: O due to being mechanically broken and unbalanced as ****, and DA: 2 for being aesthetically kind of ****ing stupid.DA: 2 just happens to have the better plot and characters, and since I am smarter than you, I am clearly correct here.
Meh, it was ok. I wouldn't call it broken, how do you mean? Yes, its unbalanced towards mages, but as you say the game is pretty easy, so you don't really need balance to enjoy it anyway, plus DA2 is still unbalanced towards mages.
Nah, DA2 has some pretty darn unlikable characters and the plot actually is broken, so nyeh.
Originally posted by Peach
By the way, there's an open beta for Diablo III this weekend, just need a battle.net account.I downloaded it but haven't looked at it yet, from what I've been hearing it's near-impossible to get on because the servers keep kicking people out left and right. I know it's a stress test, but come on now, that's slightly ridiculous...
Gah! I keep getting Error 3003.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
-------^ Casuals ruining video games.
Excuse me if I don't want to master a convoluted system, that has no tutorial and goes to no effort to even explain tactics, mind you, due to my ADHD and lack of patience for such things, just so I can play the game for the reason people actually play the game; For the roleplaying, story, and characters.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh, it was ok. I wouldn't call it broken, how do you mean? Yes, its unbalanced towards mages, but as you say the game is pretty easy, so you don't really need balance to enjoy it anyway, plus DA2 is still unbalanced towards mages.
First of all, you must understand, that apparently Origins isn't actually easy for most gamers, and is apparently considered quite difficult. I don't find it difficult because I am a genius, you and Blax find it easy because you are no-life losers with large breasts.
And it is not just broken because it is the RPG equivelant of Marvel vs. Capcom 2. The AI is terrible, the crowd-control mechanics are overpowered as **** (A big contributor to the reason mages are unbalanced), potions are so plentiful that it is virtually impossible to die unless you fall asleep, and mage hats are ****ing stupid. There is probably something else I am forgetting that contributes to the game being mechanically a turd, but it has been a while since I played the game.
DA2 unbalanced towards mages? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
It's not. At all. At higher difficulties, the only viable mage build is a healer, and the best build in the game is a two-hander warrior build.
Compare this to Origins, where mages could perform the duties of the other two classes but more, and often better.
Nah, DA2 has some pretty darn unlikable characters and the plot actually is broken, so nyeh.
Origins had Morrigan, who is the most unlikeable party member in the series, and to a lesser extent Wynne. Fenris and Anders I could get being called unlikeable due to preference, who are you referring to?
Also, when you factor in Awakenings, which is the worst game Bioware has ever put out... Lol.
Why is the plot broken?
Edit: Seriously, why do people fellate Dragon Age: Origins so much? Is it because the neckbearded loser fanbase had a nostalgia boner for Baldur's Gate, and were willing to mindlessly masturbate Origins for returning to that format and ignore its faults, but apparently picking at 2 is okay because it moved away from the format?
Also, once more, what I say is more valid because I am smarter than everyone here combined.
Originally posted by dadudemon
See, I come from an old system of role playing board game days were there was literally a rolled a 20 sided die for our turns. I consider, and will continue to consider, dice rolling in RPG-type games to be a tool of the game mechanics, not the game mechanics themselves. The game mechanics, to me, are the rules that deal with what those dice roles actually mean. Just because an industry wants to define terms a certain way, does not mean I have to. Also, WTF cares if I listed out multiple items in a list with some overlapping? ๐Edit - I googled searched and dice roles are considered part of game mechanics. So my comparison of "money, stocks, and bonds" still work. It's all money of some kind...
๐ I started playing D&D on a version before it switched over to d20 - d20 is actually pretty new ๐ So. Many. Dice. And you always had to be careful if a d4 rolled off the table because those ****ers hurt if you stepped on them. And being as I've always gone for the rogue-type characters, I always used lots of d4s.
Anyway, I would say that the rules governing what the die roles mean and actually rolling the dice itself together make up the mechanics. After all, if you're using a system that's depending on dice rolls, you cannot have one without the other for it to work. If you have rules that require that element of randomness, you need the dice, and if you're rolling dice, you need some sort of system of rules to make those rolls mean something.
However, I tend to separate out the actual roleplaying elements of a game from the actual dice mechanics, as the two don't necessarily have to be linked together. You can roleplay without any dice at all (there's more to RP than just hitting things with a sword, after all!). Many video games have abandoned the D&D-style mechanics entirely (for good reason - it's really not a very good system at all, there are much better ones out there; as far as tabletop goes I prefer ones that use a dice pool type system, like WoD), and there are tabletop systems that are completely diceless entirely.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer>Plays games on vassal, the most convoluted counter-intuitive bullshit interface on the,planet.
Excuse me if I don't want to master a convoluted system, that has no tutorial and goes to no effort to even explain tactics, mind you, due to my ADHD and lack of patience for such things, just so I can play the game for the reason people actually play the game; For the roleplaying, story, and characters.
> Plays warhammer 40k and DnD.
> plays starcraft 2.
> Dragonage Origins tactics system is beyond his capabilities.
One of these statements does not fit with the others.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
>Plays games on vassal, the most convoluted counter-intuitive bullshit interface on the,planet.> Plays warhammer 40k and DnD.
> plays starcraft 2.
> Dragonage Origins tactics system is beyond his capabilities.
One of these statements does not fit with the others.
I play 40k for the roleplaying and because I have an army fetish.
I rarely play SC2 anymore, and even when I did play the actual multiplayer, I was a mediocre player. And I have an army fetish.
I has a feat, if any of you math whizes want to calc it:
Using the Rabbit Talisman, a little girl was able to make it from San Francisco California to Cape Canaveral Florida in 30 secs, more or less. How fast was she going?
Apparently the distance is 2485 miles or 3999 kilometers away. Though I might have a bad source for that so if you want to check, you can.