Originally posted by BloodRain
Yeah but he would know exactly of what he was to create, seeing as he can see what it becomes.Bibles talking by our standards iirc, so seven days would be seven days.. and with him resting in-between them.
No, he wouldn't, because you're assuming that the concept of our time, which does not even exist yet, would apply to him, and he would be able to "think ahead". He can't though, because it was not created.
Existence hasn't been created though...
Originally posted by Peach
I'd rather someone be a good person simply because it's the right thing to do, and not because they're afraid that they'll go to hell after they die if they don't.I fall into the former category, there.
Originally posted by BloodRainAh yes. Holy Beyonder, Goddess Phoenix, Benevolent Mad Jim and the likes.
Beyonder, Phoenix, Mad Jim and probably most high-leveled reality warpers.Anyone at the level of planetary creation that doesn't take a week to do would blow the Bible one out of the water. Yup.
Let me ask you something, in relevance of the topic: These are all powerful entities, but could any of them create the first thing? Beyonder, Phoenix, Mad Jim have all three experience to base their powers and actions on. Their actions, their creations, are all recreations or modifications.
I do not doubt the sophisticated mind of them all, but before time, before anything, could they create the world? I have seen the Beyonder work wonders, but he has done so with prior experience and exposure to his actions. He could create the world much faster than God, but that is because he has experienced it. That is because he has experienced the creation of, say God.
You can argue the biblical God's mind limited, but you should also consider the fact that as he was omniscient initially, there was nothing to know. He created the knowledge to do what he did, before he created his creations.
It took him seven days to create the world, yes, but let me ask you this: What was the hurry? The Bible never described him to be in any form of hurry, nor any reason for him to be.
Just a few of my many thoughts on the matter.
Originally posted by Peach
I'd rather someone be a good person simply because it's the right thing to do, and not because they're afraid that they'll go to hell after they die if they don't.I fall into the former category, there.
Incentive my dear girl is a powerful tool. 😛
Indeed, I'd like for everyone to get along.
And why has this place become all theological and such? Feel like I'm on Facebook. :T
Originally posted by BloodRain
Beyonder, Phoenix, Mad Jim and probably most high-leveled reality warpers.Anyone at the level of planetary creation that doesn't take a week to do would blow the Bible one out of the water. Yup.
They all created things they had already existed before them. Creating the concept of a something that has never existed before and then going on to create a perfectly functioning model of said item > creating a perfectly functioning model of an item from an existing set of blueprints.
God created a dude that can bust 1/3 of all the stars that exist with a flick of his tail. He also created a dude that can own the first dude in battle, and both of them know they are nowhere near as powerful as God is.
Plus God can roll up everything that exists much like one would roll up a carpet.
If you want to be literal.
Or I could simply be a d*** and say: God created Humans who created the Beyonder. Writers have been portrayed as Supreme Beings in their works. Ergo, God >>>>> Beyonder.
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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Incentive my dear girl is a powerful tool. 😛Indeed, I'd like for everyone to get along.
And why has this place become all theological and such? Feel like I'm on Facebook. :T
Arguing feats ma boi.
Originally posted by Super Marie 64
Ah yes. Holy Beyonder, Goddess Phoenix, Benevolent Mad Jim and the likes.Let me ask you something, in relevance of the topic: These are all powerful entities, but could any of them create the first thing? Beyonder, Phoenix, Mad Jim have all three experience to base their powers and actions on. Their actions, their creations, are all recreations or modifications.
I do not doubt the sophisticated mind of them all, but before time, before anything, could they create the world? I have seen the Beyonder work wonders, but he has done so with prior experience and exposure to his actions. He could create the world much faster than God, but that is because he has experienced it. That is because he has experienced the creation of, say God.
You can argue the biblical God's mind limited, but you should also consider the fact that as he was omniscient initially, there was nothing to know. He created the knowledge to do what he did, before he created his creations.
It took him seven days to create the world, yes, but let me ask you this: What was the hurry? The Bible never described him to be in any form of hurry, nor any reason for him to be.
Just a few of my many thoughts on the matter.
I can't say for certain if they could replicate their creations without a omniversal blueprint, though I can't say they couldn't try. On the other hand, being all-knowing, God would already have this blueprint as he's meant to have a watchmakers knowledge of existence. Technically God had a slight advantage over the Marvel trio prior to creating, and it still took a week to do so.
The main issue I have with this is that God's mind should not have any limits. Being omni- and all.
Fair point. There was no reason to rush. Though equally there was no reason he couldn't, being all knowing and powerful, create it in an instance.
Scratch seven days. Its six days, and one to rest his omnipotent powers.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
And why has this place become all theological and such?
Because I have an issue with arguments, debates and confrontation. awetwitch
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Who the frack did that stuff? O.o Still, Eggman's Death Egg's 'Final Egg Blaster' > that by feats 😛
..see, I knew someone would say that. And I had a feeling it was gonna be the bastard that is you haermm
Originally posted by BloodRainThe Bible doesn't say that anywhere. That's just something we assume.
Bibles talking by our standards iirc,
Originally posted by Peach
I'd rather someone be a good person simply because it's the right thing to do, and not because they're afraid that they'll go to hell after they die if they don't.I fall into the former category, there.
People aren't born knowing the difference between right and wrong. Everything we do, we do because it benefits us on some level to do it. Therefore, there is no difference between someone being a good person because the Bible tells them to, or because they just like being a good person. Ultimately, they're both being a good person out of a need for some reward, whether it's God's love or peace of mind.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Omniscience > those characters knowledge of existance. The G-man still had the advantage.Who the frack did that stuff? O.o Still, Eggman's Death Egg's 'Final Egg Blaster' > that by feats 😛
..see, I knew someone would say that. And I had a feeling it was gonna be the bastard that is you haermm
Look up the Omniscience paradox.
Satan was the one who tail-flicked a 3rd of all the stars that existed, and Jesus/Michael was the one who owned him in battle. God is still vastly more powerful than those two. Pfft, busting a 3rd of the stars that exist with nothing more than a flick of one's tail >>>>>>>>>>>>> busting a small group of stars with a beam that takes time to activate.
You know it's true. kruemelmonsteryn0
Also, just bringing this up, but there are certain sects that believe Creation wasn't really created in 6 actual Earth days, but 6 figurative days/periods.