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Originally posted by CosmicComet
created in 6. had to rest on the 7th.

weak.

Rested. Did not have to rest. Just rested. The Bible did not say that he exerted himself on the sixth day. It never even explained him tired, or in any at all need for rest. Just that he did.

I sometimes sit down even when I have the option not to do so. That does not mean my energy is anywhere near depleted, just that I rather sit than stand. On the same point, he did not do anything on the eigth day either. He rested on the seventh, but also on the eight. He was done.

Do you continue to work after you are done with the work?

Originally posted by BloodRain
I can't say for certain if they could replicate their creations without a omniversal blueprint, though I can't say they couldn't try. On the other hand, being all-knowing, God would already have this blueprint as he's meant to have a watchmakers knowledge of existence. Technically God had a slight advantage over the Marvel trio prior to creating, and it still took a week to do so.

The main issue I have with this is that God's mind should not have any limits. Being omni- and all.

Fair point. There was no reason to rush. Though equally there was no reason he couldn't, being all knowing and powerful, create it in an instance.

Scratch seven days. Its six days, and one to rest his omnipotent powers.

Because I have an issue with arguments, debates and confrontation. awetwitch

Being omniscient means knowing everything. If nothing exist, you know only nothing. God created something despite this. You do not know what do not exist.

Omniscient is not to know everything that is not, in addition to everything that is. Omniscient is, by definition, that you know everything, and that is all. If everything is most minor in quantity, then you only know that quantity, and then it would expand on own accord after something is created.

Anyway, gais, random question time.

Street Racing, yay, or nay?

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b] You do not know what do not exist.
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Hence the paradox. There is nothing that an "omnipotent" being can't do. An omnipotent being would, by definition, be able to know of something even if it doesn't exist. If it couldn't, then it's not omnipotent.

It's the classic "could God make a rock so heavy even it couldn't lift it?" scenario.

@DP: A street race with or without weapons and power-ups?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Look up the Omniscience paradox.

Satan was the one who tail-flicked a 3rd of all the stars that existed, and Jesus/Michael was the one who owned him in battle. God is still vastly more powerful than those two. Pfft, busting a 3rd of the stars that exist with nothing more than a flick of one's tail >>>>>>>>>>>>> busting a small group of stars with a beam that takes time to activate.

You know it's true. kruemelmonsteryn0

Also, just bringing this up, but there are certain sects that believe Creation wasn't really created in 6 actual Earth days, but 6 figurative days/periods.

"Can an omniscient, omnipotent, eternal, timeless, boundless, limitless, and uncontained Entity create that which it doesn't already know?"
Answer: There shouldn't be anything unknown to him

..Oh a third of all of the stars. Fair say. Guess we have the high-angels power scale :3 When did Jesus fight Satan directly?

Yeah I read something on that. Personally don't feel like like 'sections' or 'rest' are attributes taken up by an all powerful one :V

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
Being omniscient means knowing everything. If nothing exist, you know only nothing. God created something despite this. You do not know what do not exist.

Omniscient is not to know everything that is not, in addition to everything that is. Omniscient is, by definition, that you know everything, and that is all. If everything is most minor in quantity, then you only know that quantity, and then it would expand on own accord after something is created.

My Bible lore isn't that great, but isn't God supposed to know everything that will happen? If so, he would know of something before its happened or has been created. His creations included. Omnipotence and omniscience would give him the means to do and know everything after all.

And even if he can't, an infinite knowledge would either allow him to instantly form this blueprint of existence.

So,

there is a chance that Toonami might be coming back. Instead of airing on Cartoon Network it'll instead be apart of Adult Swim.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
It's the classic "could God make a rock so heavy even it couldn't lift it?" scenario.

God would warp reality so he could do both.

biscuits

Toonami may be coming back? Sweet bageezus it sure did take its time.

Now I gonna see if Adult Swim is on my tv...

Originally posted by BloodRain
So? He'd know about events before, during and after existence.

(Wasnt serious with that 'fear' part) I agree with ya there, but if hell was real and we all knew it, people would be far to scared to commit a sin. The world would all be nun-like.

Well, plenty of people who do believe in heaven and hell and that a higher being exists do a lot of really, really horrific things, so obviously it's not that big of a deterrent...

Originally posted by Peach
Well, plenty of people who do believe in heaven and hell and that a higher being exists do a lot of really, really horrific things, so obviously it's not that big of a deterrent...

Barring the psychotic ones, most would be nunish.

Originally posted by Peach
Well, plenty of people who do believe in heaven and hell and that a higher being exists do a lot of really, really horrific things, so obviously it's not that big of a deterrent...

Agreed.

Anyone who kills in the name of an omnibenevolent God (or a God that says to turn the other cheek) is a very evil bastard, imo. I don't blame God for those killings, I blame the bastards that do them.

YouTube video

Did anyone know about this?

Yep. Their Him is inferior to the regular one, which is what it took for me to not give a crap.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
YouTube video

Did anyone know about this?

The singer for that intro song is horrible.

http://itsybitsysteps.com/16-year-old-amina-filali-who-was-forced-to-marry-her-rapist-commits-suicide/

Burn article 475

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yep. Their Him is inferior to the regular one, which is what it took for me to not give a crap.

If they can screw up Him that badly, imagine if Japan got their hands on Friendship is Magic and created their version of Discord 😘

Originally posted by Phanteros
http://itsybitsysteps.com/16-year-old-amina-filali-who-was-forced-to-marry-her-rapist-commits-suicide/

Burn article 475

Even more reason why I'm thankful to the lord I wasn't born in a foreign nation. Marrying your rapist? What mentally challenged douche nozzle came up with that?

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I just feel like pointing out that the Battle Network games are the best Megaman games ever and are better than you.

Originally posted by Super Marie 64
[b]Ah yes. Holy Beyonder, Goddess Phoenix, Benevolent Mad Jim and the likes.

Let me ask you something, in relevance of the topic: These are all powerful entities, but could any of them create the first thing? Beyonder, Phoenix, Mad Jim have all three experience to base their powers and actions on. Their actions, their creations, are all recreations or modifications.

I do not doubt the sophisticated mind of them all, but before time, before anything, could they create the world? I have seen the Beyonder work wonders, but he has done so with prior experience and exposure to his actions. He could create the world much faster than God, but that is because he has experienced it. That is because he has experienced the creation of, say God.

You can argue the biblical God's mind limited, but you should also consider the fact that as he was omniscient initially, there was nothing to know. He created the knowledge to do what he did, before he created his creations.

It took him seven days to create the world, yes, but let me ask you this: What was the hurry? The Bible never described him to be in any form of hurry, nor any reason for him to be.

Just a few of my many thoughts on the matter. [/B]

Mad Jim Jaspers explicitly needs something to exist to work. He is one of the most powerful reality warpers in Marvel, but he is unable to shape "nothing". As for Phoenix: Yes. It's the Phoenix Force's job to create the new universe when the current one runs its course, it is the Big Bang, that is its purpose. As for Beyonder, well, it created itself, with itself/its realm being impossibly larger than the Marvel Multiverse, and IIRC in the original stories it is implied that it accidently created the Multiverse that it surrounded, but was unaware of it. Sort of an Azathoth example of a deity.

Personally: I honestly don't care about the omnipotence or lack of such of God, I find it something of an irrelevant topic.

Debating the outcome of battles between fictional characters is much more relevent.

Indeed it is.