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Originally posted by Burning thought
Pyron was defeated by magic, the larger Pyron is featless as durability goes i belive.

Which is something of my point. Pyron was defeated when he limited himself, while his larger self is an unknown. His size dwarf the average planet with utter ease, his durability is not by a longshot immense and his ability to travel FTL makes what weaknesses he has barely existant. His lesser self was just about untouchable trough physical means, after he proved his ability to alter the structure of his own body and just replenish whatever pieces blasted of him.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Pyron was defeated by magic, the larger Pyron is featless as durability goes i belive.

And said magic wielder is also physically very strong, fast, and durable.

It's not like some random magic user could do the same.

Demitri had to fight Pyron first and weaken him, then with the Midnight Bliss could absorb him.

Even Demitri admits Pyron was a worthy opponent, which says something, Demitri himself is VERY arrogant.

Although Becci, in vs. debates, I typically only bring up his mortal feats. Cause even those are very good.

Pyron has no real "weakness," people saying he bears an actual weakness to magic are basing that on...Well, nothing really.

Originally posted by Becci
I can not pull out a longer list from the top of my head, but some would be:
- [b]Ultimecia: Can only be defeated by true friendship, capable of compressing time and existance
- Pyramide Head: Some guy who actual has no physical or ethereal body.
- Kain: Whenever killed is brought back to life by being part of a certain balance that require his existance.
- Warcraft Eternals: Virtually unkillable. Even if the body is destroyed.
[Some WC Eternal examples: Xavius, Sargeras, Medivh, Ursoc, Cenarius]
- Pyron: Was ever only defeated when having limited himself. Sized to dwarf planets, FTL speed and no proclaimed weakness or limit.
- Nozdormu: One with time, exists in past, now and future simultaneously. Knows own death and can alter own actions.

As I said, that was brought out of pretty much the blue. While they all are possible to defeat to a certain degree, none of them can truely die. I, much like how you said, do not know anywhere near the majority of game characters. These are merely some I am familiar with. My only true area of expertise is Warcraft, and if so is desired I could give you a complete list of entities virtually unkillable in the Warcraft universe. [/B]

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Pyron was defeated by a magic wielder. Doesn't mean magic is a weakness.

And said magic wielder is also physically very strong, fast, and durable.

It's not like some random magic user could do the same.

Demitri had to fight Pyron first and weaken him, then with the Midnight Bliss could absorb him.

Even Demitri admits Pyron was a worthy opponent, which says something, Demitri himself is VERY arrogant.

Although Becci, in vs. debates, I typically only bring up his mortal feats. Cause even those are very good.

Pyron has no real "weakness," people saying he bears an actual weakness to magic are basing that on...Well, nothing really.

No one was questioning the power or endurance of Pyron. The fact that Burning Thought brought up how Pyron was defeated merely showed that Pyron is capable of taking harm.

The point I brought up still stands though, that Pyron did limit himself. It was not my, and I do not think it was Burning Thought's intentions to begin a debate on how powerful Pyron is or is not.

Besides, no one said anything about a "weakness". I even specified that no such thing has been proclaimed. You just jumped to the conclusion that "defeated by magic" meant "weakness for magic" in Burning Thought's sentence 😉

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
It hurts that you didn't include Ganon, my favorite character, in your list. 🙁

Because I do not know much about Ganon. Besides, I just listed those that came first to my mind.

Originally posted by Becci
No one was questioning the power or endurance of Pyron. The fact that Burning Thought brought up how Pyron was defeated merely showed that Pyron is capable of taking harm.

The point I brought up still stands though, that Pyron did limit himself. It was not my, and I do not think it was Burning Thought's intentions to begin a debate on how powerful Pyron is or is not.

Besides, no one said anything about a "weakness". I even specified that no such thing has been proclaimed. You just jumped to the conclusion that "defeated by magic" meant "weakness for magic" in Burning Thought's sentence 😉

2. It was BT's intention by even mentioning it IMO.

3. He implied it. 131

Originally posted by Becci
Because I do not know much about Ganon. Besides, I just listed those that came first to my mind.

But fo rell, he is probably the one who needs to be on the list the most. Without certain weapons, he can't be harmed, let alone killed.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Excuses. 131

But fo rell, he is probably the one who needs to be on the list the most. Without certain weapons, he can't be harmed, let alone killed.

To this, I say what I did in the Pyron & Nosgoth Vs. Dark Titan & Jedah thread. There is no such thing as an immovable object. Only various degrees of durability for the reciever and various degrees of force to deliver the blow.

In my philosophy, the Unstoppable Force beats the Immovable Object. Unharmable is a matter of relevance. Then again, so is Unstoppable. But more cases than not, Unstoppable > Immovable.

Originally posted by Becci
To this, I say what I did in the Pyron & Nosgoth Vs. Dark Titan & Jedah thread. [b]There is no such thing as an immovable object. Only various degrees of durability for the reciever and various degrees of force to deliver the blow.

In my philosophy, the Unstoppable Force beats the Immovable Object. Unharmable is a matter of relevance. Then again, so is Unstoppable. But more cases than not, Unstoppable > Immovable. [/B]

But as the Joker in TDK basically said, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, is that they are destined to battle foreva, but with no real result. Lol.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Okay, guys, serious time.

It has recently come to my attention that Pyramid Head from the Silent Hill series is a bit of a trouble. Canon-wise he's a bit overpowered, selectively incorporeal, and impossible to kill, as far as I can tell.

Obviously, we kind of can't have this.

So we're asking you, the minions. Should Pyramid Head be illegal in here, unless special limitations such as "not incorporeal" are specified in the first post?

Yeah, it should be illegal. There's no point in debating a character who's supposedly impossible to defeat.

I think it should be alright as long as certain stips are provided, like Ganon does not get his immortality/invincibility.

And also, being unkillable doesn't matter if you can still be KOed or incapacitated, as that is still a loss.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
There is no such thing as an unstoppable force either IMO.

But as the Joker in TDK basically said, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, is that they are destined to battle foreva, but with no real result. Lol.

Like I said, just like an immovable object, an unstoppable force is also a matter of relevance. I would say there are some extreme cases though, where an unstoppable force should by all logic be unstoppable.

A blast by an omnipotent for instance, created with the sole purpose of being completely unstoppable. I do not think omnipotence exist openly in the gaming verse though. Not any characters I know of, at least. But we have Malygos white blast for instance, which erases existance where it touches.

Rule's been added, guys.

So everyone be sure to go and re-read the rules.

Originally posted by Becci
Like I said, just like an immovable object, an unstoppable force is also a matter of relevance. I would say there are some extreme cases though, where an unstoppable force should by all logic be unstoppable.

A blast by an omnipotent for instance, created with the sole purpose of being completely unstoppable. I do not think omnipotence exist openly in the gaming verse though. Not any characters I know of, at least. But we have Malygos white blast for instance, which erases existance where it touches.

There is an always will be a problem with omnipotence.

God is omnipotent right?

Can God create a rock that he cannot lift?

Ganon himself has powers over the fabrics of reality. Many characters have shown resistance to reality warping.

Just did.

"Examples of such are Pyron, who is omnipotent and omniscient"

If a mod said it, it MUST be true! haermm

The rule looks good, but I suggest you fix the 'Pyron being omnipotent & omniscient' part, since there is no proof of this 🙂 He is just supposively unkillable due to body reconstruct ability and extreme size.

Well, what would you suggest I put instead?

I have no knowledge whatsoever of this series, after all.

Yeah, sorry about that, the quote of Pyron being omniscient was actually said by himself, and as such is fallible, and the omnipotence part was most likely just hyperbole.

He is just pretty much an unknown.

...Holy shit, 2 of my favorite characters were just perma banned. 😐

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Well, what would you suggest I put instead?

I have no knowledge whatsoever of this series, after all.

Work sumthin out of that. 😐