Classic Juggernaut vs World War Hulk

Youre right Hannibal-Lector, there are a lot of people on the forum that dont know nothing of juggernaut. They keep bringing up juggernaut can get hurt when this has never happened in comics. We have yet to witness a force under magic that could stop him and they keep saying that hulk physically has the power to do so. Youre right wwh is a very interesting character and he is very powerful, I cant really find to many earth based beings that could bring him down. If it wasnt for juggernaut unlimited strength and durability, yes I would give the edge to wwh hulk but that is something that cyttorak granted to him to the fullest and there is no kind of way or impact that the hulk could do to bring the juggernaut down.

When it comes to durability, I put juggernaut durability up there with the destroyer, might be higher since i have seen the armor of the destroyer cracked.

Juggernaut vs hulk= juggernaut 10/10 due to no way of beating him.

funny that. Hulk's beaten the Asgardian Destroyer (when it was powered by Maestro Hulk).

juggernaut doesn't have "unlimited strength", he has whatever fraction of Cyttorak's kitty, Cyttorak can afford to give him.

whereas, Hulk's got infinite powers to draw upon - according to Beyonder, amongst others. 😄.

if it's a fight to the death, no way is Hulk loosing. 10/10 Hulk.
otherwise, stalemate 😐.

Originally posted by janus77
funny that. Hulk's beaten the Asgardian Destroyer (when it was powered by Maestro Hulk).

juggernaut doesn't have "unlimited strength", he has whatever fraction of Cyttorak's kitty, Cyttorak can afford to give him.

whereas, Hulk's got infinite powers to draw upon - according to Beyonder, amongst others. 😄.

if it's a fight to the death, no way is Hulk loosing. 10/10 Hulk.
otherwise, stalemate 😐.

😆

I can tell that you have never picked up a juggernaut comic and that you know so little of him.

Tell me this. How is hulk beating juggernaut. Everyone has asked you this but you fail to answer. How?

I know a way that juggernaut could beat the hulk. Ko. I can give you a time that hulk was koed by physical force. Black bolt temporarily koed him with the master blow. Spiderman koed him with 15 ton punches. Doc ock koed him by hitting him on the head with the tentacles. Captain america koed him. Wendigo koed him with physical force. Thing koed him with physical force.

Now I would like for you to tell me two things, who has koed juggernaut by physical force and Im referring to a full powered classic juggernaut, not the depowered one and the other question is how is hulk beating the juggernaut.

Hulk wins 'cos he has:
- infinite power
- far far far far far far far far far far far far far far greater intellect
- far far far far far far far far far greater agility and speed

does he need anything more?

juggernaut got koed by Onslaught - physical force.
(btw for the scientifically challenged, magnetism is part of the physical world, it is a force that works within and through physical laws, like sound and light)

War Hulk could have killed juggernaut, 'cept Hulk never kills unless he absolutely has to.

WWH arc Hulk wasn't even trying to fight juggernaut, juggernaut was inconsequential to him.

oh and juggernaut is not invulnerable to physical force, just highly (relatively speaking - not gonna survive a second if Galactus sat on him) resistant.

savage hulk has taken out juggernaut before if he can do it then world war hulk has no problems

Originally posted by spidey-dude
savage hulk has taken out juggernaut before if he can do it then world war hulk has no problems

Got an issue number for that? 313

Originally posted by Hercules
Got an issue number for that? 313

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hulk # 404

You're sure that was Savage Hulk now and you're sure it had nothing at all to do with the Pyschic backlash caused when PROF Hulk broke mind control?

*here is a clue, Black Knight even says thats what took Juggernaut down* 131

Originally posted by Hercules
You're sure that was Savage Hulk now and you're sure it had nothing at all to do with the Pyschic backlash caused when [b]PROF Hulk broke mind control?

*here is a clue, Black Knight even says thats what took Juggernaut down* 131 [/B]

heres the cover.
and in that book he looks a little weaker than savage but he still took some action so if that hulk can take on juggy then world war hulk no problemo

Originally posted by spidey-dude
wasnt grey hulk or world war or 2099 so i say it was savage. and that pyschic thing from redskull is wat saved juggys ass cause hulk was about to total him permenantly till redskull started messing with his head.
and black knight is wrong. hulk knocked him down hard and was still giving him some hard licks. redskull butted in and messed things up

Hulk #404 was Proffesor Hulk, know how you tell the difference? Prof is taller, looks like banner, styles his hair and hey, talks like an adult.

You can SAY its savage all your like Hulk #404 is a few issues after he takes control of the Pantheon and an issue after a Juggernaut sans armour knocks him out.

Wrong again my little friend, Hulk and Juggernaut were whooping the Avengers when Juggernaut said something that reminded the Hulk of his father, he turned and hit Juggernaut in the stomach knocking of his helmet and the psychic backlash did the rest. (see Juggie without helmet = very vulnerable to Psychic stuff)

Black Knight then comments "what ever you hit him with PSYCHICLY"

Comic book writers>>>>>>>>>>what you say...

Originally posted by spidey-dude
heres the cover.

Indeed the cover with PROF Hulk on it... 🙄

Originally posted by Hercules
Hulk #404 was Proffesor Hulk, know how you tell the difference? Prof is taller, looks like banner, styles his hair and hey, talks like an adult.

You can SAY its savage all your like Hulk #404 is a few issues after he takes control of the Pantheon and an issue after a Juggernaut sans armour knocks him out.

Wrong again my little friend, Hulk and Juggernaut were whooping the Avengers when Juggernaut said something that reminded the Hulk of his father, he turned and hit Juggernaut in the stomach knocking of his helmet and the psychic backlash did the rest. (see Juggie without helmet = very vulnerable to Psychic stuff)

Black Knight then comments "what ever you hit him with [b]PSYCHICLY"

Comic book writers>>>>>>>>>>what you say... [/B]

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hulk and juggy where teaming up and going after the avengers at the end they go at it big time and hulks the last one standing till redskull uses his device to screw with hulks head. i have the book myself. and ok thats not savage hulk but that hulk is weaker than world war hulk. so wwh would have no problem with juggy.

If you have the book, I suggest you try reading it, here is the synopsis from Leaders Lair, I will just post the bit where he takes out Juggie.

Brian Banner stands among demons and monster. He says, “Bruce! How dare you! Obey me! Obey me this insta…” Hulk shouts that he rejects him. He says that he rejects all of this. He says that he is mucking with his head and that no one does that to him. Hulk shouts, “GET OOOUUUTTT!”

Vision is the only one standing when Hulk starts to get up. Vision says that Hulk has rendered all his teammates unconscious. Juggernaut lies on the ground unconscious as well. Hulk asks how that happened. Vision says that he surmises it was some type of psychic backlash that implies that machinery was used to mentally enslave him. Vision says to look. Hulk says that his flight is still a little blurry. Vision points out an aircraft, that he guesses was connected with whoever attacked them and enslaved Hulk. The aircraft seemingly crashes.

See the backlash took out EVERYONE apart from Vision and Hulk...

Originally posted by Hercules
If you have the book, I suggest you try reading it, here is the synopsis from Leaders Lair, I will just post the bit where he takes out Juggie.

See the backlash took out EVERYONE apart from Vision and Hulk...

Originally posted by spidey-dude
i think you should try reading it cause i just did and juggy is down. take a look charlie at the picture. i can just see we have another juggy fanboy.

1. learn how to resize pictures

2. post the next page where the PSYCHIC backlash knocks all the Avengers plus the Juggernaut out.

3. Note that in the scan you posted Juggernaut ISN'T knocked out

No we don't have another juggy fanboy, what we have is someone who has read the comic and has the comic pointing out to a complete idiot who claimed initialy it was savage hulk and then posts one page of a comic not the following pages to make it look like Hulk knocked out Juggernaut with physical force that hes got it wrong.

Originally posted by Hercules
3. Note that in the scan you posted Juggernaut ISN'T knocked out

But he is getting his ass kicked.

no, I think he means that juggernaut is knocked down. which he plainly is.

the knock-out is psychic backlash, iirc.

still Prof. Hulk smacked that b*tch up! kudos!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But he is getting his ass kicked.

Its easy to get your ass kicked when the guy fighting on your side suddenly turns round and hits you...

Plus did we see any forward momentum from the Juggernaut there? Juggy can get knocked down and has in the past.

Originally posted by Hercules
1. learn how to resize pictures

2. post the next page where the PSYCHIC backlash knocks all the Avengers plus the Juggernaut out.

3. Note that in the scan you posted Juggernaut ISN'T knocked out

No we don't have another juggy fanboy, what we have is someone who has read the comic and has the comic pointing out to a complete idiot who claimed initialy it was savage hulk and then posts one page of a comic not the following pages to make it look like Hulk knocked out Juggernaut with physical force that hes got it wrong.