Classic Juggernaut vs World War Hulk

Originally posted by Hercules
Its easy to get your ass kicked when the guy fighting on your side suddenly turns round and hits you...

Plus did we see any forward momentum from the Juggernaut there? Juggy can get knocked down and has in the past.

and also, no it's not "easy to get [juggernaut's] ... ass kicked", he's "invulnerable" remember, to have him knocked on his ass is to show that he can be 'winded' - that he can +feel+ the effects, of what the Hulk deals out.

Originally posted by Hercules
1. learn how to resize pictures

2. post the next page where the PSYCHIC backlash knocks all the Avengers plus the Juggernaut out.

3. Note that in the scan you posted Juggernaut ISN'T knocked out

No we don't have another juggy fanboy, what we have is someone who has read the comic and has the comic pointing out to a complete idiot who claimed initialy it was savage hulk and then posts one page of a comic not the following pages to make it look like Hulk knocked out Juggernaut with physical force that hes got it wrong.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hes not knocked out u say ? mommy and daddy need to get you some specs cause you dont see things verry well. and hulk is down from redskull messing with his head. juggy didnt do crap to him.

Again RESIZE pics.

You do realise you just proved my point and that it was a PSYCHIC backlash that Knocked him out.

It shows a concious Juggernaut screaming in pain from the backlash and then Hulk being helped to his feet by vision who explains it to him.

JUST like in the synopsis I posted.

Care to post the page before Hulk hits him, where Juggernaut is standing encouraging Hulk on which triggers the Brian memory, which makes Hulk hit him when he wasn't expecting it?

Hulk fans don't go by Hulk *403 where Juggernaut did take out Hulk because Hulk didn't know it was Juggernaut so didn't go all out.

By the same standard Juggernaut thought that Hulk was on his side, was standing still and taken by suprise.

See how circumstances work in the others favour in both fights?

Originally posted by Hercules
Again RESIZE pics.

You do realise you just proved my point and that it was a PSYCHIC backlash that Knocked him out.

It shows a concious Juggernaut screaming in pain from the backlash and then Hulk being helped to his feet by vision who explains it to him.

JUST like in the synopsis I posted.

Care to post the page before Hulk hits him, where Juggernaut is standing encouraging Hulk on which triggers the Brian memory, which makes Hulk hit him when he wasn't expecting it?

Hulk fans don't go by Hulk *403 where Juggernaut did take out Hulk because Hulk didn't know it was Juggernaut so didn't go all out.

By the same standard Juggernaut thought that Hulk was on his side, was standing still and taken by suprise.

See how circumstances work in the others favour in both fights?

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hulk knocked off juggys hemlet so of course it would affect juggys head as well. and hes more down than hulk is from the hard licks he gave him.

Juggernaut's weakness is to psychic attack which is why he has the helmet and sometimes a skull cap.

With me so far?

So hes weaker to psychic attack than the Hulk and the rest of the Avengers.

Keeping up?

Yes Hulk managed to drop him to the floor, when Juggernaut is not moving, this is possible, X force managed to do it...

Yes Hulk got his helmet off with the punch, impressive but again, its been done before.

Hulks punch to the stomach got him to his knees again impressive but doesn't mean he damaged him.

The psychic backlash put him out for the count and as he is extremely weak to pyschic attacks put him out longer than anybody else (it even says that in the issue)

So in summary, yes Hulk knocked him down, no hulk didn't knock him out and no the two shots Hulk got on Juggernaut were not the reason he stayed down longer than everyone else.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
hulk knocked off juggys hemlet so of course it would affect juggys head as well. and hes more down than hulk is from the hard licks he gave him. PS. in 403 hulk and juggy dont fight. shows them both on the cover thats all the inf you have on them.

My mistake the fight was 402.

Originally posted by Hercules
Juggernaut's weakness is to psychic attack which is why he has the helmet and sometimes a skull cap.

With me so far?

So hes weaker to psychic attack than the Hulk and the rest of the Avengers.

Keeping up?

Yes Hulk managed to drop him to the floor, when Juggernaut is not moving, this is possible, X force managed to do it...

Yes Hulk got his helmet off with the punch, impressive but again, its been done before.

Hulks punch to the stomach got him to his knees again impressive but doesn't mean he damaged him.

The psychic backlash put him out for the count and as he is extremely weak to pyschic attacks put him out longer than anybody else (it even says that in the issue)

So in summary, yes Hulk knocked him down, no hulk didn't knock him out and no the two shots Hulk got on Juggernaut were not the reason she stayed down longer than everyone else.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
X force managed to do it 😆 they had nothing to do with hulk knocking down juggy in the book. that was between them only 1 on 1 till redskull butted in using his machine on hulk.

My God you are stupid!

X force managed to do it in the crossover they had with Spiderman, not in this issue...

I said X force managed to do it, did I say they did it in that book...

Originally posted by Hercules
My God you are stupid!

X force managed to do it in the crossover they had with Spiderman, not in this issue...

I said X force managed to do it, did I say they did it in that book...

Originally posted by spidey-dude
somone needs to be more specefic then and post what book there talking about when explaining fights. ps crossovers arent cannon 😄

How much more specific do you want it?

Yes Hulk managed to drop him to the floor, when Juggernaut is not moving, this is possible, X force managed to do it...

It was an outline of what Hulk did and then me saying it is possible for Juggernaut to e knocked/dropped to the floor when hes not moving as X force managed it.

Crossover fights arn't canon when they involve characters from DIFFERENT companies. When I say crossover I refer to Spidey apearing in X force and X force apearing in Spiderman...

If you don't consider it canon then WWH, Civil War etc etc arn't canon either...

Originally posted by Hercules
How much more specific do you want it?

It was an outline of what Hulk did and then me saying it is possible for Juggernaut to e knocked/dropped to the floor when hes not moving as X force managed it.

Originally posted by Hercules
Crossover fights arn't canon when they involve characters from DIFFERENT companies. When I say crossover I refer to Spidey apearing in X force and X force apearing in Spiderman...

If you don't consider it canon then WWH, Civil War etc etc arn't canon either...

Originally posted by spidey-dude
i posted for you some proof of hulk knocking down juggy in 404. lets see those 402 scans from you

Well I never argued Hulk knocking down Juggernaut, I said knocked out but anyhoo.

http://www.leaderslair.com/noexcuses/hulk2-402.html

Synopsis of the entire issue, as I said Juggernaut is dressed in civi's and Hulk thinks hes just a big lumberjack.

I will go find some scans.

Originally posted by janus77
but juggy's "forward momentum" has been bent out of shape by Hulk. so that's hardly a factor. it's also been stopped by Thor's Hammer (godforce).

and also, no it's not "easy to get [juggernaut's] ... ass kicked", he's "invulnerable" remember, to have him knocked on his ass is to show that he can be 'winded' - that he can +feel+ the effects, of what the Hulk deals out.

World War Hulk redirected it War Hulk was aided by tech (I know you will argue against it but he was) and managed to actually stop him.

The Godforce didn't damage him, so a punch to the gut from Prof Hulk>>>>Godforce?

Its easy to get cold cocked by someone if your standing there cheering them on, ass kicked were SC's words, I just expanded on them.

If he is indeed feeling the effects then given Juggernauts powerset and considering hes taken harder shots in the past without effect, that could be argued to be PIS.

He was knocked to his knees not on his ass but thats semantics...

Some scans of the fight in 402.

Let me expand on the forward momentum thing, I was saying that Juggernaut has in the past been knocked off his feet when not moving.

Warpath literaly pushed him over a bent over Spiderman and he hit the floor, so if hes standing still he can be knocked over or down.

a question about Juggernaut: what does his armor do for him besides protection from telepathy?

Originally posted by masterbruce
a question about Juggernaut: what does his armor do for him besides protection from telepathy?

Look cool. Its probably just as invulnerable as Juggernaut himself also.

Originally posted by masterbruce
a question about Juggernaut: what does his armor do for him besides protection from telepathy?

Makes him easy to spot in a crowd.

I believe it also signifies him as the avatar thingy empowered by Cytorrak.

ah ok, basically just a fashion statement then. it does make him look cool though.