Originally posted by janus77
Onslaught also ripped him up and beat the snot out of juggernaut. so if Onslaught can bfr him (and of course, anyone with Hulk level strength can bfr juggernaut) then he can hurt him, physically ...
Juggernaut doesn't carry the gem of cyttorak inside him, so it's pretty obvious that it's complete bullshit. Juggernaut was seen throwing the gem into orbit after he had tried to give it as a birthday present to Black Tom.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosGood thing Cain is an idiot. Good thing he's pretty much never used that power any other time too.
Well come on, thats a horrible excuse, Juggernaut only withstood the GodForce Blast once, does that mean we shouldn't use that?
Most of Jugg's feats are one time feats, He hasn't appeared in 1000's of comics like Hulk has.
And another thing.............
*remembers last summer's HulK vs Juggernaut debate*
.......Forget it.
Re: Classic Juggernaut vs World War Hulk
Originally posted by JuanJohnboy
Classic Cain vs current Hulk...who wins??
Can end in so mny ways...all bad for Cain.
Editorial policy at marvel is that Hulk is stongest there is. But nothing can stop Juggernaut. Well...Hulk's theoretical limitless strength remains..but full power jugs has been halted.
Once by odin force, even if only for a fraction of a second.
Again by War Hulk. Dead in his tracks, and then thrown half way across town.
Again by Onslaught. He PHYSICALLY harmed Jugs. Hulk physicaly knocked Onslaught out of his armour.
This hulk is an absolute animal. He's got fighting smarts, and is really pissed. Jugs doesn't get any stronger...he is what he is...
I don't see Jugs knocking out this hulk. He's just not strong enough. The more he fights Hulk, the angrier he'll get. Eventually, he'll get as
strong as he was when he fought Onslaught. Lights out for Jugs.
Okay, if the Jugs fans don't like that...here's another solution.
Hulk is now tactically keen. Jugs will charge him. Hulk will simply use Jugs momentum against him...launch him into orbit IN the direction of Jugs motion. Techniaclly, he doesn't stop juggernaut...he just helps him along the direction he was going in. Jugs is out of the picture pronto with only a broken ego...Hulk smashes...and everyone is happy.
Just read WWH: X-Men #2 though.doesn't end that way...wasa cop-out..
If this was in a comic wwh would win due to bad writing and larger fan crowd... if u took their exact abilities and actually did a fight Juggernaut would win... If u think wwh would "Get" strong enough to bfr him Juggernaut is ALREADY strong enough to bfr since hes NEVER had trouble lifting anything and his draws unlimited power from Big C.... im sick of these threads that fan boys just flock to... BTW Onslaughts writing is considered one of the worst ever considering half the things in it were not to Canon.... as well as inconsistant...
BTW VERY GOOD POINT Picoico:
Hulk is now tactically keen. Jugs will charge him. Hulk will simply use Jugs momentum against him...launch him into orbit IN the direction of Jugs motion. Techniaclly, he doesn't stop juggernaut...he just helps him along the direction he was going in. Jugs is out of the picture pronto with only a broken ego...Hulk smashes...and everyone is happy.
that actually makes ALOT of since like when ppl say Hulk stopped Juggernaut wen he had apoc's technology, he used his momentum... he didnt stop him first.... here's a lil thing you can try, Lock up with your brother or some1 of equal strength and push against each otehr... then wut happens if one of you gives quickly, the otehr 1 falls forward... yeah....
To top it off, Hulk would only win VIA BFR, if there isnt that option in this fight, juggy kills him... not just beats him...
Re: Re: Classic Juggernaut vs World War Hulk
Originally posted by picoicoEditorial policy at marvel is that Hulk is stongest there is. But nothing can stop Juggernaut. Well...Hulk's theoretical limitless strength remains..but full power jugs has been halted.
please dont make stuff up to make urself feel better....
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well come on, thats a horrible excuse, Juggernaut only withstood the GodForce Blast once, does that mean we shouldn't use that?
You know exactly what I mean. Durability is what Juggy does. He has never shown the ability to walk on air except that single time so it's hardly a valid feat (unless you want me to bring up Hulk destroying a dimension)
Originally posted by Hannibal-Lectorplease dont make stuff up to make urself feel better....
When is that from?
ahh i got served, i cant read... hmmm not sure when arround Incredible hulk 440ish since the next week 1 brings up 457
however, it is at the time of classic juggernaut and classic juggernaut gets his unlimited strength which never wanes.... so unlimited vs always increasing....
i hate doing this analogy since ive done it so many times:
Say Hulk reaches infinity... then gets madder... so stronger... his strength goes up so it wasnt infinity, neither is what he is then, but juggs is at infinity... only celestrial power (or divine power greater than Big C can overpower his infinity)
Originally posted by Hannibal-LectorUhhhhh,War stopped Juggs, he did not use momentum he stopped him in his tracks and flung him...Do I need to post it.
If this was in a comic wwh would win due to bad writing and larger fan crowd... if u took their exact abilities and actually did a fight Juggernaut would win... If u think wwh would "Get" strong enough to bfr him Juggernaut is ALREADY strong enough to bfr since hes NEVER had trouble lifting anything and his draws unlimited power from Big C.... im sick of these threads that fan boys just flock to... BTW Onslaughts writing is considered one of the worst ever considering half the things in it were not to Canon.... as well as inconsistant...BTW VERY GOOD POINT Picoico:
Hulk is now tactically keen. Jugs will charge him. Hulk will simply use Jugs momentum against him...launch him into orbit IN the direction of Jugs motion. Techniaclly, he doesn't stop juggernaut...he just helps him along the direction he was going in. Jugs is out of the picture pronto with only a broken ego...Hulk smashes...and everyone is happy.
that actually makes ALOT of since like when ppl say Hulk stopped Juggernaut wen he had apoc's technology, he used his momentum... he didnt stop him first.... here's a lil thing you can try, Lock up with your brother or some1 of equal strength and push against each otehr... then wut happens if one of you gives quickly, the otehr 1 falls forward... yeah....
To top it off, Hulk would only win VIA BFR, if there isnt that option in this fight, juggy kills him... not just beats him...
Originally posted by strengthkillsWhy does that matter? That's not Hulk at his normal powers, he was amped with a plot device.
Uhhhhh,War stopped Juggs, he did not use momentum he stopped him in his tracks and flung him...Do I need to post it.
Originally posted by quanchi112He beat a severely depowred Juggernaut. Not nothing I'd write home to Mom about actually.
ww hulk beats juggs. its just the way it is.
Originally posted by strengthkills
If you read Hannibals post it would matter,WWH isnt amped...... 😕
His anger amplifies his powers. He is amplified.
Read up on the Hulk please 😱 😎
Originally posted by jgiant
WWH would just pound on Juggs till the end of time, juggs can't hurt hulk and visa versa,but hulk will have the advantage.
Juggernaut can in fact hurt Hulk. Despite popular belief, the hulk actually does feel pain and he can be hurt when you punch him. That's why he staggered when the Thing punched him.
Originally posted by llagrok
Juggernaut can in fact hurt Hulk. Despite popular belief, the hulk actually does feel pain and he can be hurt when you punch him. That's why he staggered when the Thing punched him.
Right after taking the nova and a lightning bolt at the same time as well as being thrown into a building.
Originally posted by llagrokNot enough to do significent damage, as long as he continues to get angry he will simply overpower him.
His anger amplifies his powers. He is amplified.Read up on the Hulk please 😱 😎
Juggernaut can in fact hurt Hulk. Despite popular belief, the hulk actually does feel pain and he can be hurt when you punch him. That's why he staggered when the Thing punched him.