Pre-Crisis Superman v. Darkseid

Started by starking10 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
wanst an avatar. ds said he rarely uses it. he wouldnt use it to save his planet. it makes no sense. superman saves an avatar. and ds says doomsday is unbeatable. to u darkseid always tells the truth. so u must also admit doomsday is unbeatable. 😛
WRONG! He said he rarely uses it, because the avatar can be beaten if the opponent is strong enough. And even if you were right about Ds using an avie in this instance, it's a retcon none the less and you need to get over it.

Originally posted by starking
WRONG! He said he rarely uses it, because the avatar can be beaten if the opponent is strong enough. And even if you were right about Ds using an avie in this instance, it's a retcon none the less and you need to get over it.
when did it say he used it in the hunter and prey storyline? what page? 😆 wasnt retconned at all. sorry ds got raped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
when did it say he used it in the hunter and prey storyline? what page? 😆 wasnt retconned at all. sorry ds got raped.

NOOB

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOOB
great point. 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
when did it say he used it in the hunter and prey storyline? what page? 😆 wasnt retconned at all. sorry ds got raped.
Now this is just pure idiotic. Retcons DON'T always take place in the same story, for instance when Seid lost to the two Dr.Fates and it was later on retconned. Stop making dumb statements, your destroying your own reputation.

Originally posted by starking
Now this is just pure idiotic. Retcons DON'T always take place in the same story, for instance when Seid lost to the two Dr.Fates and it was later on retconned. Stop making dumb statements, your destroying your own reputation.

LMAO at him destroying something that is non existant.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO at him destroying something that is non existant.
My bad, I forgot about that. 😮

Originally posted by starking
Now this is just pure idiotic. Retcons DON'T always take place in the same story, for instance when Seid lost to the two Dr.Fates and it was later on retconned. Stop making dumb statements, your destroying your own reputation.
how many times are u going to say stop it ur ruining ur credibility. i dont even believe u have read any of these stories. u just view scans. this hasnt been retconned. sorry but it makes no sense for ds to not protect his planet. ds admitted he couldnt beat him. addresss ds saying doomsday is unbeatable. 💃

when did it say specifically that this ds was an avatar? it never did so quit assuming it did.

WOW

This is some sure-as-hell spite.

Darkseid stomps PC-Supes, just like he has in EVERY single on of their encounters.

Originally posted by grey fox
WOW

This is some sure-as-hell spite.

Darkseid stomps PC-Supes, just like he has in EVERY single on of their encounters.

this is current darkseid. current darkseid cant beat a depowered superman. i have to say that precrisis supes beats this darkseid. the way darkseid was portrayed back then he wins. but the way ds is portrayed now he definitely loses.

Darkseid for the win

Originally posted by starlock
Darkseid for the win
how when darkseid cant beat the current supes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
how when darkseid cant beat the current supes.

I am 36 years old,i have a broader vision of recent and past Darkseid,for someone who is younger lets say 18 they dont have the same perception,and thats not counting those who are 12 and 14 , so i remember the days when PC supes was taken down like nothing by Darkseid many many times, in the span of thirty years or more of reading comics it is a big difference

Originally posted by starlock
I am 36 years old,i have a broader vision of recent and past Darkseid,for someone who is younger lets say 18 they dont have the same perception,and thats not counting those who are 12 and 14 , so i remember the days when PC supes was taken down like nothing by Darkseid many many times, in the span of thirty years or more of reading comics it is a big difference
ur age has nothing to do with the answer. i know that darkseid has been known to mop the floor with him in ancient days. but even u must have to admit the way darkseid is written today is a far cry from how he was writen twenty years ago.

he loses to superman in todays times who is considerably weaker than he was in precrisis. ds has been weakened to. he has to be to lose to a superman who is considerably weaker than his present day version. this is why i think precrisis supes beats down current ds. old ds wins with ease. but this isnt old ds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he loses to superman in todays times who is considerably weaker than he was in precrisis. ds has been weakened to. he has to be to lose to a superman who is considerably weaker than his present day version.

So, it's just PIS then...

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
So, it's just PIS then...
no it isnt. not when it keeps happening. it wasnt a fluke win it has been a streak now. ds isnt nearly as powerful as he used to be. these losses to this superman proves it.

So, because writers have Darkseid just lose to Superman, he's weaker now?

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
So, because writers have Darkseid just lose to Superman, he's weaker now?
uh yes. becuz writers used to have him beat down superman. writers make the comics. we dont.

First off, anyone saying that Darkseid EVER defeated the Pre-Crisis Superman is a LIAR.

Second, Darkseid can't do ANYTHING to this Superman.

Superman wins 8-9/10 here.