Black Adam vs Wonder Woman

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, BA nor CM are superman's admitted equals. They Are NOT his equals in strength. Get that thru your head. 2ndly , WW is superman's 2nd becuz of his better offenses, flight speed, and invulnerability. When it comes to strength, They are listed as dead even. WW fights defensively against Superman becuz he's always been under mind control. She could kill him any time she wishes. Or wasn't that established when she cut his chin instead of taking his head off? Read much? Guess you don't.

And Ares is far above the bench mark of power in the DCU. As a matter of fact, The more fighting goes on, the more powerful Ares is. Have you ever seen SUeprman cut lose on any of the shazam familY? I sure as hell haven't.

Do you ever wonder why WW3 happened? it was specifically becuz Superman and WW were not on the scene. As A matter of fact, even the people of the DCU earth think Wonder WOman can beat Teth. IT's absolutely retarded to think that WW who has given the goods to etrigan, martians, kryptonians, and magical beings, would NOT be on CM's or BA's lvl? What the **** lvl is she at then? She's stronger than Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, etc. The next step is A1. YOu saying she's not on thier level means jack when you don't have a level to put her on. And you have the nerve to say her skills keeps her in the game? Her skills didn't keep her head from being knocked off by zoom. That was durability. Her skills didn't allow her to knock the shit out of white martians. That was pure punching power. Her skills didn't allow her to enter the speed force. That was speed. Her skills didn't save her from being pummeled by hermes. A being that was fighting Mercury AND Flash at the same time. Well maybe some skill. Tee hee. But you get the point. I sure as hell don't remember skills allowing her to catch a FALLING Meteor that looked like the size of a small state.

The bullshit that irradiates from your post is astonishing.

Such idiocy.

Such idiocy.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
ww isnt anything to black adam. i see how easily superman has beaten her down. ba wins this all day in my opinion. ww is overrated.

Superman easily beat her? Except that in "Sacrifice" she beat him. There's a reason Black Adam couldn't have run wild like that if Supes or WW had been there. Plus his power was so exxagerated beyond its normal limits to allow him to beat everybody like that. They were all jobbing for him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, BA nor CM are superman's admitted equals. They Are NOT his equals in strength. Get that thru your head. 2ndly , WW is superman's 2nd becuz of his better offenses, flight speed, and invulnerability. When it comes to strength, They are listed as dead even. WW fights defensively against Superman becuz he's always been under mind control. She could kill him any time she wishes. Or wasn't that established when she cut his chin instead of taking his head off? Read much? Guess you don't.

And Ares is far above the bench mark of power in the DCU. As a matter of fact, The more fighting goes on, the more powerful Ares is. Have you ever seen SUeprman cut lose on any of the shazam familY? I sure as hell haven't.

Do you ever wonder why WW3 happened? it was specifically becuz Superman and WW were not on the scene. As A matter of fact, even the people of the DCU earth think Wonder WOman can beat Teth. IT's absolutely retarded to think that WW who has given the goods to etrigan, martians, kryptonians, and magical beings, would NOT be on CM's or BA's lvl? What the **** lvl is she at then? She's stronger than Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, etc. The next step is A1. YOu saying she's not on thier level means jack when you don't have a level to put her on. And you have the nerve to say her skills keeps her in the game? Her skills didn't keep her head from being knocked off by zoom. That was durability. Her skills didn't allow her to knock the shit out of white martians. That was pure punching power. Her skills didn't allow her to enter the speed force. That was speed. Her skills didn't save her from being pummeled by hermes. A being that was fighting Mercury AND Flash at the same time. Well maybe some skill. Tee hee. But you get the point. I sure as hell don't remember skills allowing her to catch a FALLING Meteor that looked like the size of a small state.

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, BA nor CM are superman's admitted equals. They Are NOT his equals in strength. Get that thru your head. 2ndly , WW is superman's 2nd becuz of his better offenses, flight speed, and invulnerability. When it comes to strength, They are listed as dead even. WW fights defensively against Superman becuz he's always been under mind control. She could kill him any time she wishes. Or wasn't that established when she cut his chin instead of taking his head off? Read much? Guess you don't.

And Ares is far above the bench mark of power in the DCU. As a matter of fact, The more fighting goes on, the more powerful Ares is. Have you ever seen SUeprman cut lose on any of the shazam familY? I sure as hell haven't.

Do you ever wonder why WW3 happened? it was specifically becuz Superman and WW were not on the scene. As A matter of fact, even the people of the DCU earth think Wonder WOman can beat Teth. IT's absolutely retarded to think that WW who has given the goods to etrigan, martians, kryptonians, and magical beings, would NOT be on CM's or BA's lvl? What the **** lvl is she at then? She's stronger than Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, etc. The next step is A1. YOu saying she's not on thier level means jack when you don't have a level to put her on. And you have the nerve to say her skills keeps her in the game? Her skills didn't keep her head from being knocked off by zoom. That was durability. Her skills didn't allow her to knock the shit out of white martians. That was pure punching power. Her skills didn't allow her to enter the speed force. That was speed. Her skills didn't save her from being pummeled by hermes. A being that was fighting Mercury AND Flash at the same time. Well maybe some skill. Tee hee. But you get the point. I sure as hell don't remember skills allowing her to catch a FALLING Meteor that looked like the size of a small state.

See, you must've realized it's been a while since my foot and your ass had an intimate moment, in light of the approaching new year.

First.....

If Superman admits the Marvels are his equals, in what context do we take the comment, if not all around?

Marvel has never been overpowered in strength by Superman. Ever.
They stalemated armwrestling twice, and the second time Superman eventually won when Mary and Junior powered up, taking power away from Cap.

When it comes to the man and woman in comparative strength, he snapped her wrist like it was a twig. All the secret files and rankings mean nil, when he is shown to be that dominant over her in combat.

And here i thought she always fought defensively against Superman because he's got the edge in everything but skill.....silly me.

Show the people the scan of WW handling Ares that you're so fond of bringing up.....show the scan of her tackling him, and knocking him back.....ohhhhhhhh, dominant WW, she is woman, bake Bruce a pie.

Ares being extremely powerful means nothing in comparing WW and Teth, when Teth hasn't fought the Olympian. All that matters is that against THE BENCHMARK FOR TOP TIER POWER IN DC, Teth and the other Marvel fare better.

And lol.... DC maintains that WW3 wouldn't have happened if the trinity were on the scene.....not just Superman and WW.
Batman as well, which makes it debateable if they were taking powerlevels into account when they made that comment.

And wow...Sacifice is the only fight where Superman was fighting WW as himself..........only he wasn't fighting WW, he was fighting a much slower, and less skilled monster, without projectile attacks to think of.

"OMG!!! DAREDEVIL SURVIVED AN INSANE SPIDERMAN, AND EVEN DID SOME DAMAGE!!!OMFGMGMOMGD@~!!!!

Voice of reason" But he thought he was fighting the Rhino....."

"HATER!!!"

Figure it out.

The only time Marvel was really beaten by Superman, he was possessed by Eclipso, who amps everyone he possesses.

The second time they fought, again Marvel vs an amped Superman, Marvel stalemated him, until he was caught in human form.

People of DC earth also think Superman is Superman 24/7, and they are constantly fooled by a pair of glasses.

Lets cut this bullshit Nvr.

In their confrontations, how do the Marvels stand in regard to Superman, vs the way Diana stands when they've fought?

Answer that question honestly, and this thread is over.

Originally posted by SupremeMan
Superman easily beat her? Except that in "Sacrifice" she beat him. There's a reason Black Adam couldn't have run wild like that if Supes or WW had been there. Plus his power was so exxagerated beyond its normal limits to allow him to beat everybody like that. They were all jobbing for him.

Just to clarify what I'm saying here a little. Superman is stronger than WW and more 'invulnerable'. But obviously she is strong enough and tough enough to be able to climb into the ring with him and slug it out and has greater skill. The difference in strength may be the difference between a strong man and a strong woman but its in the same playing field.

I don't think that normal WW could beat enraged BA unless you go with the idea that a berserk opponent is an easy target for a skilled fighter of reasonably close power level. Likewise, I don't think a calm BA would fair any better against an equally enraged WW.

Originally posted by UniOmni
See, you must've realized it's been a while since my foot and your ass had an intimate moment, in light of the approaching new year.

First.....

If Superman admits the Marvels are his equals, in what context do we take the comment, if not all around?

Marvel has never been overpowered in strength by Superman. Ever.
They stalemated armwrestling twice, and the second time Superman eventually won when Mary and Junior powered up, taking power away from Cap.

When it comes to the man and woman in comparative strength, he snapped her wrist like it was a twig. All the secret files and rankings mean nil, when he is shown to be that dominant over her in combat.

And here i thought she always fought defensively against Superman because he's got the edge in everything but skill.....silly me.

Show the people the scan of WW handling Ares that you're so fond of bringing up.....show the scan of her tackling him, and knocking him back.....ohhhhhhhh, dominant WW, she is woman, bake Bruce a pie.

Ares being extremely powerful means nothing in comparing WW and Teth, when Teth hasn't fought the Olympian. All that matters is that against THE BENCHMARK FOR TOP TIER POWER IN DC, Teth and the other Marvel fare better.

And lol.... DC maintains that WW3 wouldn't have happened if the trinity were on the scene.....not just Superman and WW.
Batman as well, which makes it debateable if they were taking powerlevels into account when they made that comment.

And wow...Sacifice is the only fight where Superman was fighting WW as himself..........only he wasn't fighting WW, he was fighting a much slower, and less skilled monster, without projectile attacks to think of.

"OMG!!! DAREDEVIL SURVIVED AN INSANE SPIDERMAN, AND EVEN DID SOME DAMAGE!!!OMFGMGMOMGD@~!!!!

Voice of reason" But he thought he was fighting the Rhino....."

"HATER!!!"

Figure it out.

The only time Marvel was really beaten by Superman, he was possessed by Eclipso, who amps everyone he possesses.

The second time they fought, again Marvel vs an amped Superman, Marvel stalemated him, until he was caught in human form.

People of DC earth also think Superman is Superman 24/7, and they are constantly fooled by a pair of glasses.

Lets cut this bullshit Nvr.

In their confrontations, how do the Marvels stand in regard to Superman, vs the way Diana stands when they've fought?

Answer that question honestly, and this thread is over.

This entire post is shit to me. Really. Superman admits that CM and Diana have the same lvl punch. SO if you are using Superman's admittance, then what does that mean? If he considers Diana earth's next line of defense then that means he doesn't consider CM. Correct? Superman snapped WW's wrist in an enraged state while sunamped. Please provide ANY fights were teth and CM had to face a fully unleashed Superman. Cuz from where I"m looking, He could pretty much own any top tier unleashed and sun amped. Oh and Superman is FAR faster than BA or CM and has more offensive powers. Now, show me anyone who lacks Superman's Offensive powers and speed rolling over Diana like you think Teth Would. I'll do you a favor and tell you right now, YOu won't find any.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This entire post is shit to me. Really. Superman admits that CM and Diana have the same lvl punch. SO if you are using Superman's admittance, then what does that mean? If he considers Diana earth's next line of defense then that means he doesn't consider CM. Correct? Superman snapped WW's wrist in an enraged state while sunamped. Please provide ANY fights were teth and CM had to face a fully unleashed Superman. Cuz from where I"m looking, He could pretty much own any top tier unleashed and sun amped. Oh and Superman is FAR faster than BA or CM and has more offensive powers. Now, show me anyone who lacks Superman's Offensive powers and speed rolling over Diana like you think Teth Would. I'll do you a favor and tell you right now, YOu won't find any.

dontgetit

I know I'm a known Wonder Woman fanboy, but I'm not arguing for either side. So don't attack me.

I'm just posting some Wonder Woman scans.

You guys use them to decide:

SPEED

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STRENGTH

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Superman/Spectre says:
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Let's not forget the Herald Lvl beings WW has fought
Fluxus
PRimaid
Etrigan
Daxamite
Superman
Captain Marvel
Zoom
Supergirl
Powergirl

above the top tiers
Ares
Doomsday clone
etc.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This entire post is shit to me. Really. Superman admits that CM and Diana have the same lvl punch. SO if you are using Superman's admittance, then what does that mean? If he considers Diana earth's next line of defense then that means he doesn't consider CM. Correct? Superman snapped WW's wrist in an enraged state while sunamped. Please provide ANY fights were teth and CM had to face a fully unleashed Superman. Cuz from where I"m looking, He could pretty much own any top tier unleashed and sun amped. Oh and Superman is FAR faster than BA or CM and has more offensive powers. Now, show me anyone who lacks Superman's Offensive powers and speed rolling over Diana like you think Teth Would. I'll do you a favor and tell you right now, YOu won't find any.

Alright, i'll bite.

Bran already covered this many posts ago, and showed how it implied Cap might be beyond WW in strength.

He might consider Diana the next line, but that doesn't mean people more powerful than her aren't walking around.

Fate, Scott, Jordan, FireStorm.

Cap faced an eclipso amped Superman(and he amps everyone he possesses, so Superman is no different), twice. The first time he was beaten because he was hesitant to fight the guy.

Second time, he stalemated him.

An amped Superman is much more dangerous than an insanely angry Superman.

Do me this favor tho...

Compared to how they look in battle against the benchmark top tier in the DCU, how does WW compare, and how does the Marvels compare?

Answer the question, please.

And lol at PowerGirl being elite top tier.

She's not even proven herself to be a bonafide top tier.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Alright, i'll bite.

Bran already covered this many posts ago, and showed how it implied Cap might be beyond WW in strength.

He might consider Diana the next line, but that doesn't mean people more powerful than her aren't walking around.

Fate, Scott, Jordan, FireStorm.

Cap faced an eclipso amped Superman(and he amps everyone he possesses, so Superman is no different), twice. The first time he was beaten because he was hesitant to fight the guy.

Second time, he stalemated him.

An amped Superman is much more dangerous than an insanely angry Superman.

Do me this favor tho...

Compared to how they look in battle against the benchmark top tier in the DCU, how does WW compare, and how does the Marvels compare?

Answer the question, please.

And lol at PowerGirl being elite top tier.

She's not even proven herself to be a bonafide top tier.

I'd say powergirl being chosen to help superman fight Superboy prime means she has proven herself. And Wonder WOman has stalemated Captain marvel. What is your explaination for that? And WW to my knowlege has always fought an insane superman out of his mind. She's also Superman's best freind besides batman. She's going to fight him differently than CM would. Also, if I wanted to compare WW to CM, I'd say most of the time, she is fighting to do something Else in addition to just fighting. Save lives, etc. And Most of the time, I don't remember Superman using as many of his powers against WW as he does against the marvels. Most of the time it's pure punching power. Against WW, he used uber speed, HV, Freeze breathe, and a nice sun amp. As for eclipso amping anyone he posesses, I'd like to see that in writing. I've never seen that. And even if he did, We have no basis to compare it to. We know that a sun amped superman can take on the entire justice league, break DS bones, etc.

Originally posted by UniOmni
And lol at PowerGirl being elite top tier.

She's not even proven herself to be a bonafide top tier.


Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd say powergirl being chosen to help superman fight Superboy prime means she has proven herself.

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Sorry...

And to that, i'll say Superman says Batman is the most dangerous person on earth....lip service abounds.

And wtf at your spinning.

Eclipso amps everyone he possesses.

In the same story where he fights Marvel, the woman he possessed to fight Superman in a luthorcorp kryptonian battlesuit, kicks said battlesuit off the roof of a building, in her bra and panties, with no shoes.

Don't tell me Eclipso doesn't amp who he possesses, when he amped this chick, and he amped Jean and he's amped everyone he possesses.

But Superman is different, right?

Cap stalemates an amped Superman, and has beaten WW while he had a broken arm and uses her lasso in Underworld unleashed, but meh, right?

At least you keep it consistent.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Says the guy with CM in his sig. Prove that BA is stronger than WW outside of WW3. Keep in mind that etrigan was able to knock Superman from the earth to the moon if I remember correctly. ANd WW was giving that same etrigan a hell of a fight.

Captain Marvel and Supes have stalemated in test of strength and haven't WW admitted that Supes is stronger than her.

Originally posted by Val
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Sorry...


SBP> a shit load of heroes

SBP= Three kryptonians?
Obviously Power girl isn't getting the credit she deserves. Which then lessons the credit WW is getting since she has embarrassed PG once, and Been called miss perfect by PG later on.

Originally posted by D-Block
Captain Marvel and Supes have stalemated in test of strength and haven't WW admitted that Supes is stronger than her.

HE's also mentioned that He and WW were evenly matched in raw power, that CM and Diana hit the same, etc. WW has proven to be far stronger than Supergirl, So I can't see anywhere else for her to be but right there with superman. Unless she has this esteemed honor of being the only superhero in comics with Uber strength, speed, skill, and weapons, that can't beat anyone becuz of bias or what ever.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SBP> a shit load of heroes

SBP= Three kryptonians?


How did you come to this conclusion?

Originally posted by Val
How did you come to this conclusion?

It was followed by a question mark. Not a conclusion but a question or hypothesis.

SBP has beaten a shit load of earth's heroes at one time.
But when we see PG, SUperman, and Super girl, SBP is on the run from them or something like that, and they are on the chase. IT lead me to believe that PG is somewhere in the top tier. She'd have to be to be part of three that have SBP on the run like that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
HE's also mentioned that He and WW were evenly matched in raw power, that CM and Diana hit the same, etc. WW has proven to be far stronger than Supergirl, So I can't see anywhere else for her to be but right there with superman. Unless she has this esteemed honor of being the only superhero in comics with Uber strength, speed, skill, and weapons, that can't beat anyone becuz of bias or what ever.

IIRC, it was the Crucifier arc that had someone else possessing Superman, saying that he and WW were evenly matched in power.

So it wasn't Superman, who's intimate with his own limits, but someone who hijacked his body for the time being.

Clearly.

And SMP wasn't on the run from the kk. He was doublepunched onto the bridge, and then he was repowered.

There was no on the run.