Originally posted by Darth SexyBacked up by the DSSB, NEC, and POD.. You lose
When has the DSSB ever mentioned Revan's power? And the NEC?
You're a fat liar. And POD never says anything about his power, merely that he knew rituals Bane found impressive. And as I've said earlier rituals have nothing to do with personal power, as they involve groups of people.
Originally posted by Allankles
When has the DSSB ever mentioned Revan's power? And the NEC?You're a fat liar. And POD never says anything about his power, merely that he knew rituals Bane found impressive. And as I've said earlier rituals have nothing to do with personal power, as they involve groups of people.
He was stated to know various ancient sith techniques and his knowledge was better than that of any on Korriban. Furthermore he patented his force storm, along with his force bond abilities. He was the greatest of the entire TOTJ period. The exile? Not even close. She won her fights by circumstance. Revan won his fights based on his personal power. There's no competition. You're a broken record who can't admit when he's been pwned. You've done it in every debate to the point where nobody wants to waste their time debating with a dumbass.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
He was stated to know various ancient sith techniques and his knowledge was better than that of any on Korriban. Furthermore he patented his force storm, along with his force bond abilities. He was the greatest of the entire TOTJ period. The exile? Not even close.
He was the greatest in the TOTJ period in Kotor 1, then the Exile came along five years later in Kotor 2, and achieved similar if not greater feats (remember Revan was searching for star maps, while the Exile was stabilizing worlds, that's why I never mentioned Revan defeating Tusken raiders).
Two, no one is denying that Revan knew a variety of ancient Sith rituals, we have that in mind, but they are irrelevant to his personal power. He was DLOTS for a time, it would be a shame if he didn't pick up on some techniques. Also, his knoweldge would natuarally be above Bane's Sith seeing as how he had more Sith knowledge at his disposal in the brief time he spent as a DLOTS.
So yes, Revan was great but without bias the Exile achieved just as much and Kotor 2 rightly put her on the same pedestal as your boy Revan. I'm sorry if I don't rate Revan as highly as you do.
Originally posted by AllanklesIdiot, he doesnt rip the life force out of a planet, he drains whats on the planet, He kills what is on the planet get it in your thick skull
Who used the wording "killed a planet"? And worlds with force sensitives are timming with life. He leaves planets devoid of all life i.e. he breaches the connection between a planet's LIFE and the force. Katarr was world rich with life, yet all the organism that existed within it died.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhat you say doesnt equate to fact, even visas said that he drains whats on the planet, he doesnt actually drain the planet itself as you were so fond to bring up
So, it's not just force sensitives that die but all life on the planet he drains. Which is why I said he servers the connection between the planet's life and the force i.e. every life form the planet sustains is killed, leaving the world barren and effectively dead.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe reason why nobody and i mean nobody takes you seriously at all is because your logic goes "Guy X does feat 1 while Z and Y doesn't, it means guy X >>>>>>>>>> the both of them"
I also said, neither Revan and Kun have shown the latent dark side power required to perfom this.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhen did i say "timming with life" you dumbass? You brought up the point where he can drain a planet itself, and i was merely being skeptical.
Are Malachor and Ziost timming with life?
Your keyword which says this is Drain a planets LIFE FORCE . If you could have been more logical and analytical, you would have said he drained whats ON THE PLANET which you clearly didnt and know your contradicting yourself like a dumbass
Originally posted by AllanklesSee the above
You don't seem to get it, if the planet supports a great deal of life Nihilus will drain it. It's not about DS energy (he gets that by causing force breaches) it's about the life the planet has, force sensitives are simply more enriching to him (as is shown when he's prepared to drain Telos even though it has no Jedi).
Originally posted by AllanklesZes kai ell = weakling. So what if she stopped the exchange? How difficult was it for her? Its not like the exchange has some grand army,
Not really, but it qualifies as a big a achievement. Zez Kai Ell wasn't quick to stop the slave trafficking, and would likely have been defeated by one of Visquis schemes if he tried. That's a bold statement to make, given how many Jedi would actually be killed if they were up against the Exchange.
Originally posted by AllanklesUh, the dantooine battle had only what? 20-30 soldiers tops? That doesnt equate to a big ass war as your trying to overhype.
How does this change the fact that the Exile ended the war? She turned the tide of the conflict. It's like me mentioning that Revan never defeated the dark Jedi on the SF without Republic assistance, nor defeat the Rakata tribe without his companions. It's redundant. The point is that he made the key difference, as did the Exile in this case.
How does this change the fact that she didnt end the war herself ?
The rakata battle was WAY more massive than the mere dantooine conflict, hell i wouldnt even call it a war seeing that their numbers are so small.
Originally posted by AllanklesLast i recall, they were empowered by the star forge making them stronger than the ones on malachor, malak was empowered, so was bastila, so was every dark sider on the star forge for that matter.
And just how good were the unknown, nameless dark jedi that Revan killed? Stop asking redundant questions, I don't remember stating that they were the greatest of foes, merely that it was impressive to kill quite a number on her own. I hate to say this again, but please try to come up with a rebuttal that's not irrelevant
Even with all these distractions, revan still slaughtered every single one of them, as for the exile, she only had to face dark jedi and some troopers. The numbers aren't as big as it was in the jedi civil war seeing that most of the sith were destroyed by the time of K2
Originally posted by Allankleswinning a war doesnt equate to you being strong in the force
Neither were Revan's. Winning a war, you need competent General's who'll employ the right tactics on the field. To defeat masses of enemies Revan, had companions and the Republic on the SF.
Originally posted by AllanklesAnd you fail to back everything you claim other than fallible third party quotes
You failed to see the redundancy of your arguments because you have a bias.
Originally posted by AllanklesSorry, the omniscient narrator made it clear it was revans feat. Again knowledge = power and revans knowledge of the force greatly surpasses and entire archive . Common sense would tell you to stop argueing but oh well you lack that too.
The magnitude of the statement is lessened by the use of Bane's POV as a measure. Secondly, rituals don't apply to personal power. A ritual functions using groups of people, the process doesn't involve a single person e.g. a thought bomb. Rituals can't be used in single combat, so they aren't of any significance to Revan's personal power.
Originally posted by Allankles
He was the greatest in the TOTJ period in Kotor 1, then the Exile came along five years later in Kotor 2, and achieved similar if not greater feats (remember Revan was searching for star maps, while the Exile was stabilizing worlds, that's why I never mentioned Revan defeating Tusken raiders).
Two, no one is denying that Revan knew a variety of ancient Sith rituals, we have that in mind, but they are irrelevant to his personal power. He was DLOTS for a time, it would be a shame if he didn't pick up on some techniques. Also, his knoweldge would natuarally be above Bane's Sith seeing as how he had more Sith knowledge at his disposal in the brief time he spent as a DLOTS.
So yes, Revan was great but without bias the Exile achieved just as much and Kotor 2 rightly put her on the same pedestal as your boy Revan. I'm sorry if I don't rate Revan as highly as you do.
I don't care what you rate Revan, the point is you've been wrong for 17 pages and you don't know when to shut up because you enjoy lying to yourself. Revan>>>exile.
Originally posted by Allankles
There's just way too much favouritism towards Revan in regards to his greatness while the Exile achieves just as much and yet is - IMO -underrated. I'm guessing not being a former DLOTS, and having a less typical background than your regular top tier Jedi hero, works against her.
Originally posted by Thiru
Idiot, he doesnt rip the life force out of a planet, he drains [b] whats on the planet, He kills what is on the planet get it in your thick skull [/B]
Don't be redundant. I said he rips the life out of a planet i.e. he destroys all the life a planet sustains. We've said the same thing, or don't you understand that we "worded" them differently?
Originally posted by Thiru
What you say doesnt equate to fact, even visas said that he drains whats on the planet, he doesnt actually drain the planet itself as you were so fond to bring up
Again, the redundancy must end. I never said anything about draining a planet, I talked about breaching the bond of a planet's life and the force i.e. the life forms which are sustained by the planet. I don't see what's hard to get, unless you're a kid or a retard.
Originally posted by Thiru
The reason why nobody and i mean [b] nobody takes you seriously at all is because your logic goes "Guy X does feat 1 while Z and Y doesn't, it means guy X >>>>>>>>>> the both of them"[/B]
This is pathetic, I've never used such "logic". I merely pointed out the FACT that Revan and Kun have never shown the LATENT dark side power/ability required to breach a planet's life with the force. And that based on that FACT, there's nothing to assume Revan and Kun are as powerful as Nihilus in the darkside.
We base power on feats and/or canon statements (in/out of universe) e.g. Sidious being the most powerful Sith (even without DE). Because Revan and Kun don't have a statement putting the above Nihilus in power, we have to rely on feats (just like everyone else).
I wouldn't care if you took me seriously - we're discussing fictional characters after all, how serious can it get? You're showing an inability to reason logically. Feats aren't held against anyone, however they are a measure of a characters ability.
Originally posted by Thiru
When did i say "timming with life" ? You brought up the point where he can drain a planet itself, and i was merely being skeptical."
Who gives a shit? I thought I was responding direclty to your post, point is you got the point (if you didn't, I don't care).
Originally posted by Thiru
Your keyword which says this is [b] Drain a planets LIFE FORCE . If you could have been more logical and analytical, you would have said he drained whats ON THE PLANET which you clearly didnt and know your contradicting yourself like a ds."[/B]
Don't put words in my mouth or delude yourself into thinking you got the upper hand here. I never mentioned any "life force", what I did mention was a planet's life i.e. for the slow witted, the life that a planet sustains be it plant or animal. If your reasoning wasn't so limited I wouldn't have to spell out "what's on the planet". I don't have to use your wording.
Originally posted by Thiru
Zes kai ell = weakling. So what if she stopped the exchange? How difficult was it for her? Its not like the exchange has some grand army,."
Redundant. Zez Kai Ell represents, an average Jedi MASTER. If you had any idea what an average Jedi looked like, you'd know that an average Jedi wouldn't have accomplished this single handedly.
Originally posted by Thiru
Uh, the dantooine battle had only what? 20-30 soldiers tops? That doesnt equate to a big ass war as your trying to overhype.,."
That's gameplay you imbercile, the restrictions of the game engine. Dantooine may have been a small colony, but the scale of the battle exceeded 20-30. It's not even estimated by the game, where are you getting these numbers from? By that logic, the SF wasn't filled with hundreds of dark Jedi and Sith soldiers. Obviously the game engine's restrictions played a part.
Originally posted by Thiru
How does this change the fact that she didnt end the war [b] herself ?"[/B]
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The point, Sherlock is that nobody ends a war THEMSELVES. Not Anakin, not Yoda not anyone. What the Exile did, as did Revan, was change the outcome of the war by influencing a series of battles. Essentially, it doesn't change the fact that it was the Exile that brought about the end of the war, by breaking through Vaklu's rear guard and defeating his Sith allies.
As I've said, it's a redundant argument to make.
Originally posted by Thiru
The rakata battle was WAY more massive than the mere dantooine conflict, hell i wouldnt even call it a war seeing that their numbers are so small.]
Idiocy, often walks hand in hand with blatant fanboyism. How do you know this? Even if you want to make an estimate, you surely haven't thought it through. The Rakata dispute was solved by Revan and his companions only. The Mercenary invasion of Dantooine needed not only the Exile's companions, but the entire Khoonda militia.
Secondly, the mercenaries, were better equipped, probably better trained, with better leadership and focus. They were arguably a superior fighting force when compared to the Dark Rakata.
Originally posted by Thiru
Last i recall, they were empowered by the star forge making them stronger than the ones on malachor, malak was empowered, so was bastila, so was every dark sider on the star forge for that matter.
And to add to that, malak sent an army of droids to destroy revan, didnt work and we have the fact that there were internal defences and an army of soldiers.
I know all this. The SF was just a dark side artifact and Malachor 5 was a dark side planetoid. We don't want to get into an argument of who was more empowered, it's silly. You notice, I never mentioned how the dark sider's in Kotor 2 were empowerd by Malchor 5?
Originally posted by Thiru
Even with all these distractions, revan still slaughtered every single one of them, as for the exile, she only had to face dark jedi and some troopers. The numbers aren't as big as it was in the jedi civil war seeing that most of the sith were destroyed by the time of K2.
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Now you're going to brinG up numbers? The SF probably had many dark jedi, many of whom probably engaged Revan and his companions. However, the SF didn't house every dark Jedi in the war. That's like assuming the death star had half the empire's fighting force, it didn't and the death star was a lot bigger than the SF.
Secondly, with exception of the SF, Revan never actually participated in any battle of the JCW during Kotor 1.
Originally posted by Thiru
winning a war doesnt equate to you being strong in the force.
What? These are impressive combat feats, mowing down enemy after enemy in the many battles of Kotor 2. They certainly REFLECT on her strength in the force.
Originally posted by Thiru
And you fail to back everything you claim other than fallible third party quotes.
Read through what I've said about this. Revan's feats (especially combat feats) are no better than the Exile's, and he has the same fallible third party quotes.
Originally posted by Thiru
Sorry, the omniscient narrator made it clear it was revans feat. Again knowledge = power and revans knowledge of the force greatly surpasses and entire [b] archive . Common sense would tell you to stop argueing but oh well you lack that too. [/B]
First of all it wasn't a feat, it was merely the knowledge he possessed on Sith rituals. Second, it never states that he actually performed these rituals i.e. the thought bomb, merely that he knew them. And writing knowledge = power isn't an argument, it's just a common saying, not a factual one.
This is an argument to defeat this assertion:- a ritual functions through groups of people not a single person, so a ritual wouldn't count as personal power for Revan, as he'd need the involvement of OTHER sith to perform anyone of these so-called great rituals.
If this power needs the involvement of other people, than the power isn't your OWN.
Originally posted by AllanklesRipping life out of a planet and ripping life out of what is on the planet are completely two different things.
Don't be redundant. I said he rips the life out of a planet i.e. he destroys all the life a planet sustains. We've said the same thing, or don't you understand that we "worded" them differently?
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I don't see what's hard to get, unless you're a kid or a retard.[allankles]
Originally posted by AllanklesBut you said he is able to breach a planets connection to the force and you made the assertion that when you get cut off the force, you die so you implied that he could feed on a planets death hence i was being skeptical.
Again, the redundancy must end. I never said anything about draining a planet, I talked about breaching the bond of a planet's life and the force i.e. the life forms which are sustained by the planet. I don't see what's hard to get, unless you're a kid or a retard.
Heres the quote where you said he can cut off an entire planets connection to the force :
Originally posted by AllanklesYet visas states he kills whats on the planet, Your a liarKun and Revan in terms of power are Nihilus' inferior. He possesses the power to drain the life out of a galaxy, a planet at a time. He's hunger is powerful enough to breach a planets connection with the force. He perceives single beings as insignificant.
Originally posted by AllanklesAgain do i need to point out the fact that your logic goes "Revan and kun dont exhibit ability A while nihilus does, so there fore the equation goes nihilus is miles ahead of them"
This is pathetic, I've never used such "logic". I merely pointed out the FACT that Revan and Kun have never shown the LATENT dark side power/ability required to breach a planet's life with the force. And that based on that FACT, there's nothing to assume Revan and Kun are as powerful as Nihilus in the darkside.
That = horrible logic, I can simply say a skinny ass guy is supremely stronger than a mascular body builder because he kills 10 people asleep with a knife when the mascular man never killed anybody so there fore the skinny dude >>>>>>> the mascular one.
Nihilus just exhibits this one ability and your using it to dispute he is greater than just about everybody else.
Well luke has never shown anything on that scale, i guess the assertion is "There is nothing to assume luke is as powerful as nihilus because he doesnt exhibit this one ability nor does anything close to it"
I guess its no wonder why you never win an arguement, you contradict yourself and you lie
Originally posted by AllanklesRight and nihilus performs one feat, and he is greater than everybody else save for sidious and luke.
We base power on feats and/or canon statements (in/out of universe) e.g. Sidious being the most powerful Sith (even without DE). Because Revan and Kun don't have a statement putting the above Nihilus in power, we have to rely on feats (just like everyone else).
I think taking thousands of jedi to send a wall of light crashing on kuns spirit just to keep him trapped in the temple pretty much speaks how powerful kun really is.
And the fact that revan plundered the trayus academy learning everything he could as well as stated to having more force knowledge than the entire jedi and sith archives
Originally posted by AllanklesTaking you seriously as in taking you seriously in a debate. Your rightm its fictional characters we are argueing about, it took you days to respond hence it means your taking this seriously which also indicates to me you have an ego to satisfy or the fact that your just becoming desperate to respond and win an arguement over a fictional character to boost your ego,
I wouldn't care if you took me seriously - we're discussing fictional characters after all, how serious can it get? You're showing an inability to reason logically. Feats aren't held against anyone, however they are a measure of a characters ability.
I argue for the sake of argueing, its the school holidays now, i have a job and i guess other than playing games i have something else to do, argue here a little bit
Originally posted by AllanklesThe point is you dont have a point
Who gives a shit? I thought I was responding direclty to your post, point is you got the point (if you didn't, I don't care).
Originally posted by AllanklesAlready answered that, doesnt matter thought, you still gave the assertion that he could cut a planets connection off thus killing it, then feeding on the death it causes
Don't put words in my mouth or delude yourself into thinking you got the upper hand here. I never mentioned any "life force", what I did mention was a planet's life i.e. for the slow witted, the life that a planet sustains be it plant or animal. If your reasoning wasn't so limited I wouldn't have to spell out "what's on the planet". I don't have to use your wording.
Originally posted by AllanklesAn average jedi all in but name, Oh right and whos to say the exile did this singlehandedly? Hmm theres atton, visas, mical, just about the whole party
Redundant. Zez Kai Ell represents, an average Jedi MASTER. If you had any idea what an average Jedi looked like, you'd know that an average Jedi wouldn't have accomplished this single handedly.
Originally posted by AllanklesResorting to insults now? Again its in a cut scene How bout the cut scene where the exile boosted their spirits? I only see 20 soldiers, Again its in a cut scene hence its canon, Accept it son and move on with life
That's gameplay you imbercile, the restrictions of the game engine. Dantooine may have been a small colony, but the scale of the battle exceeded 20-30.
. Do you actually have anything to back up your claim that its soem big ass war?
Originally posted by AllanklesYour right, its not even estimated by the game, its actually shown to us . If the battle is so immense, wheres the tanks? Airstrikes? Bombardments? why do we only have soldiers? Again the exile didnt kill the soldiers herself. She had soldiers, vrook, her party members.
It's not even estimated by the game, where are you getting these numbers from?
Originally posted by AllanklesThe majority are. Because after the rakata prime battle, there were only about 100 sith at most left?
By that logic, the SF wasn't filled with hundreds of dark Jedi and Sith soldiers. Obviously the game engine's restrictions played a part.
So where were the other sith then?
Originally posted by AllanklesNot by herself, which you originally claimed and used as some big ass feat
The point, Sherlock is that nobody ends a war THEMSELVES. Not Anakin, not Yoda not anyone. What the Exile did, as did Revan, was change the outcome of the war by influencing a series of battles. Essentially, it doesn't change the fact that it was the Exile that brought about the end of the war, by breaking through Vaklu's rear guard and defeating his Sith allies.
Originally posted by AllanklesAnd infinite stupidity always walks hand in hand with constant denial
Idiocy, often walks hand in hand with blatant fanboyism.
Originally posted by AllanklesRakata dispute? I was referring to the battle above rakata against the star forge, How i forget we see hundreds of capital warships and the fact that several squadrons of jedi knights infiltrate the starforge. You really are an idiot
How do you know this? Even if you want to make an estimate, you surely haven't thought it through. The Rakata dispute was solved by Revan and his companions only. The Mercenary invasion of Dantooine needed not only the Exile's companions, but the entire Khoonda militia.
Originally posted by AllanklesSee the above, i was referring to the "space battle"
Secondly, the mercenaries, were better equipped, probably better trained, with better leadership and focus. They were arguably a superior fighting force when compared to the Dark Rakata.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe thing is were they empowered? Because on the SF, malak and bastila an average jedi at best were empowered, so i dont see why the others werent
I know all this. The SF was just a dark side artifact and Malachor 5 was a dark side planetoid.We don't want to get into an argument of who was more empowered, it's silly. You notice, I never mentioned how the dark sider's in Kotor 2 were empowerd by Malchor 5?
Originally posted by AllanklesNot "all" but the majority, or where else?
Now you're going to brinG up numbers? The SF probably had many dark jedi, many of whom probably engaged Revan and his companions.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe thing is, the empire had billions of soldiers and tens and thousands of warships, so its no point comparing the death star and the starforge seeing that revans forces and the republic are even smaller than the galactic empire.
However, the SF didn't house every dark Jedi in the war. That's like assuming the death star had half the empire's fighting force, it didn't and the death star was a lot bigger than the SF.
Originally posted by AllanklesSo? Sia lan wezz , shaddy potkin, roan shryne participated in so many battles, does that make them a force god? Seeing how easily they got tooled by vader?
Secondly, with exception of the SF, Revan never actually participated in any battle of the JCW during Kotor 1.
My point is, how does participating in battle make you a supremely powerful force user as you are indirectly implying?
Originally posted by AllanklesAnd just what feats had she accomlpished? Right killing 3 sith lords under circumstances, each of them whom could have easily annihilated her
What? These are impressive combat feats, mowing down enemy after enemy in the many battles of Kotor 2. They certainly REFLECT on her strength in the force.
Originally posted by AllanklesAlot better, more force knowledge and power than an entire academy, draining malachors entire dark side energies, etc
Read through what I've said about this. Revan's feats (especially combat feats) are no better than the Exile's, and he has the same fallible third party quotes.
Originally posted by AllanklesIll concede the ritual point, but having more force knowledge that an entire archives which many masters maintain speaks for revan
First of all it wasn't a feat, it was merely the knowledge he possessed on Sith rituals. Second, it never states that he actually performed these rituals i.e. the thought bomb, merely that he knew them. And writing knowledge = power isn't an argument, it's just a common saying, not a factual one.This is an argument to defeat this assertion:- a ritual functions through groups of people not a single person, so a ritual wouldn't count as personal power for Revan, as he'd need the involvement of OTHER sith to perform anyone of these so-called great rituals.
If this power needs the involvement of other people, than the power isn't your OWN.
Originally posted by AllanklesThis is pathetic, I've never used such "logic". I merely pointed out the FACT that Revan and Kun have never shown the LATENT dark side power/ability required to breach a planet's life with the force. And that based on that FACT, there's nothing to assume Revan and Kun are as powerful as Nihilus in the darkside.
We base power on feats and/or canon statements (in/out of universe) e.g. Sidious being the most powerful Sith (even without DE). Because Revan and Kun don't have a statement putting the above Nihilus in power, we have to rely on feats (just like everyone else).
I wouldn't care if you took me seriously - we're discussing fictional characters after all, how serious can it get? You're showing an inability to reason logically. Feats aren't held against anyone, however they are a measure of a characters ability.
Redundant. Zez Kai Ell represents, an average Jedi MASTER. If you had any idea what an average Jedi looked like, you'd know that an average Jedi wouldn't have accomplished this single handedly.
That's gameplay you imbercile, the restrictions of the game engine. Dantooine may have been a small colony, but the scale of the battle exceeded 20-30. It's not even estimated by the game, where are you getting these numbers from? By that logic, the SF wasn't filled with hundreds of dark Jedi and Sith soldiers. Obviously the game engine's restrictions played a part.
Secondly, the mercenaries, were better equipped, probably better trained, with better leadership and focus. They were arguably a superior fighting force when compared to the Dark Rakata.
Secondly, with exception of the SF, Revan never actually participated in any battle of the JCW during Kotor 1.
What? These are impressive combat feats, mowing down enemy after enemy in the many battles of Kotor 2. They certainly REFLECT on her strength in the force.
Read through what I've said about this. Revan's feats (especially combat feats) are no better than the Exile's, and he has the same fallible third party quotes.
First of all it wasn't a feat, it was merely the knowledge he possessed on Sith rituals. Second, it never states that he actually performed these rituals i.e. the thought bomb, merely that he knew them. And writing knowledge = power isn't an argument, it's just a common saying, not a factual one.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Nihilus' power has nothing to do with the darkside. It is because he is a wound in the force.
It does. He uses the dark side and feeds from it. He's 'hunger' is of the dark side, and Kreia calls it an empty road to the DARKSIDE. Secondly, Nihilus uses the FORCE, the dark side of the force. He's a breach in the force that uses the darkside to empower himself. Also, let's not forget that Nihilus uses a dark side Sith technique. Ilogical as always.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And yet Nihilus has one feat, while Kun and Revan have many.
When has the number of feats ever been relevant, when not a single one is as impressive? Revan and Kun have never shown the latent dark side power needed to breach a planet's life from the force. And they probably never will. Mentioning, the number of their feats, doesn't change that.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You have NEVER shown the ability to use logic, so I don't know why you're still typing.
And you don't form actual arguments, all your doing is denying.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except you're not any authority on what an AVERAGE jedi master looks like. In that case, the exile is average because not only does she look the part, but Ell says she is.
What's with the hypocrisy? I'm not an authority, but you are? And Zez Kai Ell NEVER ever said the Exile was average. What he says is that "the future is a shifting thing, and she (the Exile) cuts like a blade through it."
Not exactly the assesment of an average Jedi. Secondly, the Jedi feared the Exile because they knew that if she turned to the dark side as Revan did, they - and I quote Vrook "will be left vulnerable on two fronts."
Lastly, Atris speculates "what if she's to fall to the dark side like Revan or worse." Because they know that the Exile's wound could present an even greater threat than Revan. The Exile walks with all the deaths of Malchor 5, and because of this she's able to leech power from the death she causes.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ah so its gameplay in this case but when the exile learns 3 forms or ALL the forms as you claim, it's not? I love your stupidity and double standards. .
Did you just call me stupid, after you completely missed the point? The 3 lightsaber forms are part of the narrative, and are therefore part of the canon of Kotor 2. The only thing that's canon about the Khoonda militia's numbers is... that they were outnumbered by the mercenaries, that's it.
Do you get it? Does your incredibly slow brain process that now? The 3 lightsaber forms are a CONSTANT part of the narrative i.e. are not restricted to gameplay e.g. like most force powers. These lightsaber forms are always present irrespective of the player's class.
Stating that the conflict was 20=30 soldiers based on the gameplay (limited software) is just idiotic. It's the same as saying Revan isn't skilled because the combat animations are limited.
I don't operate on double standards. If the 3 lightsaber forms were completely disconnected from the narrative and not CONSTANT, I wouldn't have mentioned them, period.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Then you have completely missed the entire point of KOTOR. Revan participated in the MAJORITY of the battles and towards the end (last year or so), he was turning back to the light.
And you've missed the entire point of my argument. Did you play Kotor 1? If you did, Revan never actually participates in the battles of JCW until the SF, period.
Whether he did more than just strategize and kill Yusanis, in the war before his capture, is specualtion.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No, they reflect gameplay mechanics you twit..
How? I'm talking about the results here, and she killed many enemies in several battles through Kotor 2. The how, is gameplay, the result is a canon feat e.g. punching a hole through Vaklu's defenses in the Onderonian civil war.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Revan's feats and personal power >>>>>>> Exile. This has been proven, you have been defeated and yet you can't stop typing.
You didn't get the memo it seems. Fanboyish declarations don't mean anything without an actual argument to support them. I already did a run down of personal combat feats, and the Exile is equal in this regard, if not more impressive.
The Exile defeated; Kreia, Sion and Nihilus to Revan's; Malak, Uthar and Bandon.
They both defeated a number of Dark Jedi.
The Exile defeated mercenaries, while Revan defeated Dark Rakata.
The Exile defeated the Exchange, while Revan defeated Czerka (the Exile also did the same). etc etc
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I love this pathetic rationalization on your part.
One thing I absolutely don't care about, is what you love. Having knowledge of a ritual is no reflection of your personal power: fact.
You know why it's a fact? Because rituals are never about personal power.
Originally posted by Allankles
It does. He uses the dark side and feeds from it. He's 'hunger' is of the dark side, and Kreia calls it an empty road to the DARKSIDE. Secondly, Nihilus uses the FORCE, the dark side of the force. He's a breach in the force that uses the darkside to empower himself. Also, let's not forget that Nihilus uses a dark side Sith technique. Ilogical as always.
And you don't form actual arguments, all your doing is denying.
Not exactly the assesment of an average Jedi. Secondly, the Jedi feared the Exile because they knew that if she turned to the dark side as Revan did, they - and I quote Vrook "will be left vulnerable on two fronts."
Lastly, Atris speculates "what if she's to fall to the dark side like Revan or worse." Because they know that the Exile's wound could present an even greater threat than Revan. The Exile walks with all the deaths of Malchor 5, and because of this she's able to leech power from the death she causes.
Did you just call me stupid, after you completely missed the point? The 3 lightsaber forms are part of the narrative, and are therefore part of the canon of Kotor 2. The only thing that's canon about the Khoonda militia's numbers is... that they were outnumbered by the mercenaries, that's it.
And you've missed the entire point of my argument. Did you play Kotor
1? If you did, Revan never actually participates in the battles of JCW until the SF, period.
How? I'm talking about the results here, and she killed many enemies in several battles through Kotor 2. The how, is gameplay, the result is a canon feat e.g. punching a hole through Vaklu's defenses in the Onderonian civil war.
You didn't get the memo it seems. Fanboyish declarations don't mean anything without an actual argument to support them. I already did a run down of personal combat feats, and the Exile is equal in this regard, if not more impressive.
Exile defeated; Kreia, Sion and Nihilus to Revan's; Malak, Uthar and Bandon.
One thing I absolutely don't care about, is what you love. Having knowledge of a ritual is no reflection of your personal power: fact.You know why it's a fact? Because rituals are never about personal power. [/B]